think of the last time we broke the washington cartel, now as you know, washington despised ronald reagan. in 1976 he had primaried gerald ford. you want to cause republican leadership to loathe you, come within an inch of beating the incumbent republican president. what he did, think about what reagan did in '77, '78, '79. he didn't fly to washington and sit down and say you have to stand for something. he took the case to the american people. i'll tell you, buffalo new york played a critical part in that because it was jack camp's economic vision empowerment. >> there you go. you're always going to do well with jack. >> i grew up idolizing jack camp. he understood the way you took people out of poverty is having them stand up on their feet. it united republicans. all the people who hated reagan, when they saw the voters show up in massive numbers. you interview a lot of people. you cannot find a republican today who will not swear that ronald reagan's tattooed somewhere on his body. >> do you have him tattooed somewhere on yours? >> that's between me and my wife. >> fair enough. let's go to another question. shawn mcco

think of the last time we broke the washington cartel, now as you know, washington despised ronald reagan. in 1976 he had primaried gerald ford. you want to cause republican leadership to loathe you, come within an inch of beating the incumbent republican president. what he did, think about what reagan did in '77, '78, '79. he didn't fly to washington and sit down and say you have to stand for something. he took the case to the american people. i'll tell you, buffalo new york played a critical part in that because it was jack camp's economic vision empowerment. >> there you go. you're always going to do well with jack. >> i grew up idolizing jack camp. he understood the way you took people out of poverty is having them stand up on their feet. it united republicans. all the people who hated reagan, when they saw the voters show up in massive numbers. you interview a lot of people. you cannot find a republican today who will not swear that ronald reagan's tattooed somewhere on his body. >> do you have him tattooed somewhere on yours? >> that's between me and my wife. >> fair enough. let's go to another question. shawn mcco

gerald ford. ford had the majority of the delegates and was able to get the majority and that's the last truly contested convention. but what the people inside washington are hoping for, because they dislike donald trump and ted cruz so much, that someone -- perhaps kasich, or paul ryan, or marco rubio can get vote after vote on delegation floor. the convention floor somehow gets the nomination. fernando: but in that scenario, millions of people will have voted growth ted cruz and donald trump. what do you think people will think if the republican establishment engineers a different nominee? john: they will be infuriated. has said riots in the streets. you typically don't see white, middle class, old people riot in the streets. but they will be very angry and might decide not to vote for whoever the republicans nominate. i think it's a risky strategy. in many ways, it's fantasy land. republicans have to come to grips with the fact that it will be donald trump or ted cruz. and my sense is that it will probably be donald trump. fernando: if he doesn't arrive with that magical number, what do you think will happen? where will the opening be for that kind

he hired paul been a forwho is well known in washington working on presidential campaigns of gerald ford, ronald reagan, bo dole, george hw bush and george w. bush, these changes as ted cruz and john kasich as the battle for new york heats up. >>ur friends in the media tell us that donald tmp is unoppable in new york state. oddly enough, our friends in the media are very crtable with a new york liberal who has supported andrew cuomo and hillary clinton and chu schumer r decades. >> people think we will pick donald trump because he is not a politician. whevever. he will ve to spend the first hundred days trying to fure out where the bathrooms are. maria: joing us is former rudy giuliani aid and political commentator and attorney danielle mclaughli let's talk about your days with rudy giuliani as you see a move like this, donald trump bringing in the big gun shaking up his campaign. >> that tells me he has fallen out of favor, corey lewandowski, trump did not do what he needed to do, to go the distance. now he is playing catch-up. >> i agree, it was inevivitable for donald trump but the la

as i mentioned, he brought in a briefer when he was in washington every working day for his entire term which took him up a ten from where gerald ford had done it. he'd only done it for his first year in office. that gave him the ability to do two things. one, he could engage the briefing in much greater depth, he could ask the briefer questions, he could ask them for the deeper story, the stuff that didn't make it onto the printed page but left on the cutting room floor back at cia headquarters. the briefers who briefed him had to be prepared because they had a national security team that was no kidding experienced on this with a president who had been vice president for eight years w a national security adviser, brent scowcroft, who had been national security adviser more gerald ford. with people like bob gates who had also been a senior agency officer for years. these briefers had to be on their game x they said it was an exhilarating experience having the president of the united states knowing he was going to get on the phone with this leader to have that in-depth conversation on what's driving that leader on how are you go

washington is why did you do it? why did you go to work for donald trump after having worked for republicans like bob dole, george h.w. bush, ronald reagan, gerald ford? all reasonable republicans, all decent and dignified men. and now paul manafort is working for the most relentlessly ignorant vulgarian in the history of republican party presidential politics. paul manafort has the kind of political resume that would more likely find him on the never trump team. willie sutton, one of the most famous american bank robbers of the 1930s, when he was asked why he robbed banks, said "because that's where the money is." that's what you get for asking a bank robber why he robs banks. no bank robber has been asked that question since willie sutton. willie sutton's answer applies perfectly to lobbyists. and so no one in washington asks a lobbyist representing a tobacco company why she does it. no one asks a lobbyist representing some dictator why he does it. everyone knows. that's where the money is. and so lobbyist paul manafort has joined team trump for a paycheck we will only begin to get a picture of in the campaign's next f.e.c. spending report. bu

washington, d.c. and it's time for a status report. to manage the nuclear file, the united states needs to walk and chew gum to recall a comment about former president gerald ford. the threats aren't one size fits all. we have to keep our eyes on great powers like russia. we need to watch regional pariahs like iran and north korean' we need tone sure that terror groups never get their hands on nuclear material as isil, so we read, hope to do in belgium. the conventional wisdom looks a lot more like did it in 2009 when president obama launched this conversation. many believe the risk of a planet destroying exchange has gone down while the threat of a single attack by kim young un or others has gone up. i don't think we can rule out major conflict. what keeps me up at night is the risk of miscalculation. the accidental clash between the u.s. and russia perhaps over syria or pakistan and india that escalates. many regions are ready to blow. use of a theological weapon of any kind in syria could become an international crisis overnight. and if the world's responsible nations, grown-ups in the situation room condition the manage these risks, then that's the bal