there has never been one that turned it down. >> and geraldine ferraro was picked because they wantedraps against people who have been mayors, or house members, that is one of the attractions, they at least won state wide races. >> they have a familiarity. usually with a broad range of issues. economic issues, he is a smart, and i think, a decent fellow. i have had the pleasure to spend time with him. as a senator, you tend to know how to talk the talk, hot button issues and had to campaign on those issues as well. platform for a state. if you are a presidential candidate, right away, you know, you don't have to bring up to speed on key matters. >> david, in massachusetts, if she chooses elizabeth warren, the republican governor would get to appoint. there is a procedure in place for a special election they have to run there to fill that seat more permanently. the democrats probably, would be okay with that. >> probably. this is one concern that you have if you pick a senator, you lose that seat. right now, the democrats have a decent shot at winning back the senate. flip four seats,

i watched geraldine ferraro take the stage and with my whole life ahead of me, i said to myself -- ian do anything. i can aspire to anything. that image of a woman for the first time being nominated to one of the highest positions in the land, in the world. it was a transformative moment for me. that moment.watch we have a little bit of video from 1984.r stop -- [video clip begins] geraldine ferraro: as i stand before the american people and think of the honor this great convention has bestowed upon me, i recall the words of martin luther king, junior. he said, occasionally and life there are moments which cannot be completely explained by words. their meaning can only be articulated by the inaudible language of the heart. tonight is such a moment for me. brian: anybody told you you look a little like her? sen. baldwin: not at the time, because i was a 20 two-year-old college graduate at the time. it was the obvious. i think it matters, the contributions of women. substantively. i think there is an element of symbolism we ignore. the idea that i had never seen somebody who looked a l

that was i was 11 years old, i was happy to see that happen with geraldine ferraro.ls, regardless of party or regardless hillary clinton herself this is actually an office they can aspire to. they never had the example. it is possible to become the major party nominee of the democratic or republican party one day if you are a woman. that is a message for all of our daughters, regardless of how you feel about hillary clinton. charles: it is not about how i feel about her, honestly, i thought she gave a great speech. i didn't know her mother was born on the very day women got right to vote. people are saying it is historic, i don't think we have presidential nominee with potential fbi indictment hanging over their heads or kind of sort of scandals are her background. if she plays the card, comes out, vote for me, i'm playing the women's card she will have to accept the fact -- >> when has she ever said that? charles: she started speech off last night with the women's card. by the way -- >> i don't think that is true. i don't think that is true. charles: okay. >> she is

i watched geraldine ferraro take the stage, and with my whole life ahead of me, i said to myself, i cano anything. i can aspire to anything. woman for thea first time being nominated to one of the highest positions in the world, it was a transformative moment for me. brian: let's watch that moment. we have video from 1984. [video clip] >> as i stand before the american people and think of the honors this great convention has theowed upon me, i recall words of dr. martin luther king jr. he said, occasionally in life there are moments which cannot be completely explained by words. their meaning can only be articulated by the inaudible language of the heart. tonight is such a moment for me. brian: anybody tell you that you looked a little bit like her? sen. baldwin: not at the moment, because i was a 22-year-old college grad at the time. brian: what was the inspiration, other than the obvious? sen. baldwin: it was the obvious. , thenk it matters contribution that women make substantial he, but i think there's an element of symbolism that we many times ignore, the idea that i had never seen

and geraldine ferraro. >> there is a story ever. >> so we have this wonderful meeting where trust me there were seven of us in a review could not spread your arms out and. so raise your hands in the year. now put your hands on your hip if i could find my hips i would not be here. [laughter] that is unfair. it we expand the women's gym? we cannot. >> it was a horrible experience so i used "the art of tough" i will use my sense of humor can you carry a tune? they said yes so i wrote this song and it was suggested that i sing it to the leadership to the democratic caucus. oh my god we walked in there and it was a guitar. >> two quick rise could everybody use your jim? it went on equal rights we wear tights can't everybody use your jim? they are not tram we are not slam can we make their hers and ham can everybody use your jim? >> that is the only time i have to read them i ever change policy. >> but that is an example the you take on the issue that happens all over america so take "the art of tough" to a different level that is much more serious that is my favorite photo which is my fav

i watched geraldine ferraro take the stage, and with my whole life ahead of me, i said to myself, i cano anything. i can aspire to anything. that image of a woman for the first time being nominated to one of the highest positions in the land, in the world, it was a transformative moment for me. brian: let's watch that moment. we have video from 1984. [video clip] geraldine ferraro: as i stand before the american people and think of the honors this great convention has bestowed upon me, i recall the words of dr. martin luther king jr. he said, occasionally in life , there are moments which cannot be completely explained by words. their meaning can only be articulated by the inaudible language of the heart. tonight is such a moment for me. brian: anybody tell you that you looked a little bit like her? sen. baldwin: [laughs] not at the moment, because i was a 22-year-old college grad at the time. brian: i'm sitting here looking at the both of you -- what was the inspiration, other than the obvious? sen. baldwin: it was the obvious. i think it matters, the contribution that women make subst

but, it was hardly like that moment in 1984 when there seemed to be for excitement about geraldine ferraro'se we have known hillary is the nominee all along. on maybe because the mood among democrats i will say and charles can disagree, but i think a lot of democrats are very nervous. trump is not your usual candidate and the question everybody asks me is not can hillary win but can trump win? >> the rcp average, charles, is just two points now the latest poll separating hillary clinton and drurch. and you look at that gender gap which we have talked about many times on the panel with women and men and the two candidates how they identify with both of those in the polls. what do you look at as this race starts to firm up? >> well, i do think that the historic factor is very much minimized and muted. it will probably last for an hour or two tonight. but, after all, she has essentially been running for 16 years. she has expected to be the nominee in 2008. she was going to be coronated this time around. so it's actually delayed feeling. and considering that we had the first african-american, wh

been mostly two men forever except for geraldine ferraro. listen, someone not causing trouble where she's on the campaign, stop trump movement seems to be gaining steam after the comments about judge curiel. what's the latest there? >> reporter: that's right. the comments breathed life into the stop trump, never trump movement. the question is how much life is left out there. there's a contingent with the party trying to do anything to stop trump, including chatter about staging an all out delegate revolt at the convention. i have to say that's such a far fetched idea but it does underscore how at this late stage in the game how much discontent, disapproval, concern there is about donald trump, something that's been floating around quite some time and still persists, lingers, hangs over the campaign now. >> and joe, as well with hillary clinton and ethics, what concerns are being raised now? >> i think the biggest, latest concern you can call it embarrassing, controversy for the campaign, reports that a donor who gave at least a million doll

i remember when geraldine ferraro was nominated. i didn't think it was a big thing.here's a woman nominee. young women may not feel it as much because they haven't fought as hard as older women had to do. i have a feeling there will be a sense of this being a big issue in the campaign. i think hillary will make it so. i think rightly so. i think she's win more than lose by doing that. >> doris kearns goodwin. thank you very much for stopping by. >>> still to come in the newsroom, a democrat and a key latino leader taking on donald trump. i'll talk to the former l.a. mayor it what he's doing -- about what he's doing to keep donald trump out of the white house. i'm terrible at golf. he is. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you. they keep telling me "drink more water." "exercise more." i know that. "try laxatives..." i know. believe me. it's like i've. tried. everything! my chron

. >> the closest you've had a woman to a position like this was sarah palin and before that, geraldine ferraroetting an opportunity. it's an incredible and historic moment. no matter your splits, you look at the achievements of all that women have accomplished in this country. yeah. it's a great occasion. >> and she put it in context, too. i and twin falls. the margin of error is 1.4%. she has a little lead. >>> changing topics but i love this. what song gets you on the dance floor at a wedding? these are weighty questions, to be sure. the website 538, created the ultimate wedding play list, based on a reading survey. most popular songs. number three, "up town funk." >> definitely. >> number two, "whitney houston," i want to dance with somebody. >> that's number two? >> and number one, what do you think? >> well, it's right there. >> let's see. >> still a classic. >> "hey ya." >> no "electric slide"? >> no. >> thank goodness, "macarena." that was the '80s. >> when the producers put out the question to us, what's the favorite song, natalie answered back, anything. i'm the first one on the floor

before that, geraldine ferraro with walter mondale. >> 96 years since woman fought for the right to votematter your politics. i think you look at the achievements of all that women have accomplished in this country. yeah. i think it is a great occasion. >> she put it in context that way, too. she turned to donald trump relatively quickly. by the way, i'm told the margin of error, 1.4%. >>> changing topics here, but i love this. so what song gets you on dance floor at a wedding? well, these are weighty questions, to be sure. the website, 538, created the ultimate wedding play list based on a reader's survey. most popular song -- number three, "uptown funk." >> definitely. >> number two -- whitney houston, "i want to dance with somebody." number two. okay? and number one -- what do you think? >> it's right there. ♪ >> still a classic. >> "macarena"? no. let's not go there. that was the '80s. natalie answers back, anything. i'm the first one out. >> last one off. but i like songs that make me laugh and make me smile. this is just one of them. ♪ i like big butts and i cannot lie ♪ >> oh! is

whole generation and in a recent "new york" magazine, they were commenting on shirley chisholm, geraldine ferraromen that tried to get if the game, particularly since 1920 when women got the right to vote. so to become the presumptive nominee last night is the a very major moment in american history but bigger in philadelphia when she delivers that speech and is the actual nominee for the democratic party. >> hold on. we do have that moment where she talked about seneca falls. let's listen to that and then you can make your point. let's listen to this n. our country it started right here in new york. a place called seneca falls, in 1841. [ cheers ] when a small but determined group of women and men came together with the idea that women deserved equal rights, and they set it forth in something called the declaration of sentiments and it was the first time in human history that that kind of declaration occurred. so we all owe so much to those who came before, and tonight belongs to all of you. >> that's true. i think -- i'm so glad doug mentioned margaret j. smith, first woman elected to the unite