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. >> let's discuss this with journalist and former fox news host geraldo rivera. geraldo, thank you for being here. >> i, abby. my pleasure. >> what do you make of this criticism? president biden points out, or his team points out, it has been 22 years since 9/11 occurred. the first president to break the tradition is always good to be the first president to do it. do you think it's fair to criticize him for not being there? >> i do. as a native new yorker, abby, someone who has kids in grade school lost six other dads in the attacks, it's just something that will live forever but. you know, it's like a dark july 4th, 9/11 is something that's now part of the fabric of american life. and to treat it as if it was just another anniversary i think is really ill-advised. i deplore it. the emotion that people had when they saw the skyline today, the early minutes of the football game and the lights, it's just so emotional. the statue of liberty in new york harbor, and to treat that as if it's just a, you know, we went 22 years, i will come back in 25 years, i don't think

. >> let's discuss this with journalist and former fox news host geraldo rivera. geraldo, thank you for being here. >> i, abby. my pleasure. >> what do you make of this criticism? president biden points out, or his team points out, it has been 22 years since 9/11 occurred. the first president to break the tradition is always good to be the first president to do it. do you think it's fair to criticize him for not being there? >> i do. as a native new yorker, abby, someone who has kids in grade school lost six other dads in the attacks, it's just something that will live forever but. you know, it's like a dark july 4th, 9/11 is something that's now part of the fabric of american life. and to treat it as if it was just another anniversary i think is really ill-advised. i deplore it. the emotion that people had when they saw the skyline today, the early minutes of the football game and the lights, it's just so emotional. the statue of liberty in new york harbor, and to treat that as if it's just a, you know, we went 22 years, i will come back in 25 years, i don't think

well, geraldo rivera is here to weigh in tonight and the cofounder of rolling stone magazine has a new book that people are talking about. but, actually not in a good way. not even about the book, really his commentary. it has got interviews with a seven rock and roll geniuses from macgregor to john lennon to bruce springsteen, but not a single woman or person of color. now, his explanation for why he did that is adding fuel to the fire. we've got a lot of thoughts on that tonight as you can imagine, but let's begin with donald trump everyone because, well, oops. he did it again. there is a reason that lawyers tell their clients to stop talking. it's not just that whole you have a right to remain silencing, either. it is the next part that comes after that, that your words can and will be used against you in the court of law and that goes for the words you say outside of the court of law as well, as things you might say on television. now, up until now, his lawyers had been falling on their swords. also, trump was the one may be holding that sort. now, i have been following my attorney

joining us now, former fox news host geraldo rivera in the flesh, as well as former senator -- senior adviser for bernie sanders' 2020 presidential campaign, chuck rocca, and republican strategist and former rnc communications director dog high. geraldo, it's great to have you on the show. it's 5:00 in washington. we'll have to call this "the four" as there are only four of us, i know you're used to being on at 5:00. how bad is this going to get for speaker mccarthy if he can't cut a deal to avoid a shutdown? wa do you think? >> i think he's between a rock and a hard place. he can't, you know, placate the hard, hard right, the freedom caucus members, and some of the others, no matter what he does. they don't want the government to go on, it seems to me. they want it shut down. i think that what he should do is appeal to the american people to appeal to those congress folk and tell them that the federal government does more than deliver mail and audit your taxes. it makes the world go round in a lot of ways. a lot of people are going to suffer grieve yusly. he's got to make a deal with