. >> david gergen, thank you very much. stay with me. >>> it is 6:00 on the east coast and we have breaking news. very sads breaking news to bring you at the top of the hour. the death of u.s. supreme court justice antonin scalia. according to a government source and a family friend, scalia died in his sleep during a visit to texas. a government official says scalia went to bed last night telling friends he was not feeling well. he did not get up for breakfast, found unresponsive in his room at the texas ranch. just moments ago supreme court chief justice john roberts issued this statement. on behalf of the court and retired justices i'm saddened to report that our colleague as passed away. he was an extraordinary individual and ad mired by his colleagues. his passing is a great loss to the court and the country he so loyally served. we extend our deepest condolences to maureen and their family. he was the first italian american to sit on the nation's court. sworn in on september 26, 1986. he was 79 years old. our joe johns

david gergen, to you.our thoughts on that. >> i'm sorry? >> david gergen, to you. your thoughts on what we may hear from the white house when we do get a statement from them? >> i agree with jeffrey again. it will be -- they will be very respectful. it just as justice ginsberg has had a friendly relationship and respectful relationship, i think the white house will not be friendly but very respectful and recognize his importance to the court and also recognize this was a man with a long marriage with nine children who loved life. and i would think that they -- sense of humor, often served him well. you know, it's often like gladiators, at some point you respect what the other person did even though you may totally disagree with them. i think their public position will be that the president has made no decision about how he will proceed and i think their leaked decision, private to the reporters, of course, we ought to fill the seat, of course we're going to have to do this. and i think that's where we will

joining us, our cnn political director, david shallian, executive editor mark press ton, and david gergen. david, she's got -- she's a very good debater. but do you think her strategy has evolved, shall we say, as a result of her defeat in new hampshire, leading into tonight's debate? >> well, there's no doubt that she wanted to sort of regroup and i think sharpen her contrast with sanders. i think that's what i'm expecting to see and sort of what i'm looking for. because i think she thinks that he is starting to win the debate of ideas with her, and that is unacceptable to her. so i think what you're going to see is a real investigation, if you will, or exploration of his record compared to her record, so that she can try to show democratic voters that she's had progressive ideas in the very same way that he has. that's her mission. >> the exit polls in new hampshire show she did not do well among the younger voters, men and women, for that matter. she's got to be -- she's got to broaden her appeal, shall we say. >> she does have to broaden her appeal, and the the sanders campaign has do

but david gergen is raising a fair point. the online polls, he mentioned the "time" one are pretty clear that people who are responding to those are saying trump. >> that's right. that's why it's pretty clear that what marco rubio is trying to do is to consolidate the anyone but trump vote around him. that is entirely what he is trying to do. and as you've said, trying to kind of beat trump at his own game. it is unclear whether or not that's going to work. i think this is a political hail mary. and we've seen people trying this before. i can't even imagine what it's like in jeb bush's living room, him watching this going, hello, marco, where were you a couple of weeks ago when i was the only guy out there doing this stuff. it's pretty clear that that's what it is. it is the end of the road for a lot of these guys. and as you saw with chris christie's endorsement, and from people close to chris christie, he did it for one reason and one reason only. he thinks that this is a done deal. that donald trump is going to be the nomi

donna brazile, david gergen and margaret hoover. a lot of people here.ink that ted cruz had the most command of the issues. >> not only command of the issues, but i think in terms of south carolina, who votes in a republican primary. his arguments, i think, would resonate more than anybody else's and resonate better. >> you were talking about yef evangelicals. but they're not all values voters. many of them are sort of, they're white, blue collar, non-college educated, and they're also college-educated evangelicals actually a smaller number of college-educated. the non-college educated vote on kitchen table issues. that's why he's doing well on this cohort. he talks about immigration, trade. these are things that resonate with a part of the electorate that has been left behind in an economic stagnation. while cruz does speak about values voters and speak to those themes, it doesn't resonate with all evangelical voters is why trump's doing so well, i think. >> cruz is doing very well, too, doing well among evangelicals. >> and marco's doing well against t

david gergen, big night for donald trump.ot of folks, and we were talking about the history, if you've won south carolina and new hampshire, you've won the nomination if you've won those. is he unstoppable now? >> i don't think he's unstoppable. it's still hard to see him winning the nomination, but it's harder to figure out who's going to beat him. >> it was hard seeing him winning new hampshire. and south carolina, it was hard to imagine. getting in the race, it was hard to imagine. >> i think he's still got hurdles to get over. he's got a two-front war now, one front against cruz. he's got to beat him in a lot of the southern states coming up on super tuesday. he's got a second front against marco rubio, who will do better in midwestern states and places like pennsylvania, and he's got to beat him, too. he's beaten both of them. this is the first time he's going too take that on, but i think he has another hurdle coming up. we can talk about this later, but i think the media is going to start investigating him in ways we h

>> i'm exactly with david gergen.7 minutes into this show and all we did was talk about donald trump. >> i think both john kasich and jeb bush showed a human side. debates are performances, they are canned lines, rehearsed lines and they are time ld answ -- timed answers. you can't bull crap your way through a town hall. i'm going do the spanish thing that anderson -- by the way, let me translate what he said to anderson. anderson, you want to do this interview in spanish? and anderson of course started giggling. >> and anderson said no. more to come. hold your fire, everyone. we'll talk about john kasich and jeb bush when we come back because the panel wants to talk about them. [ music ] defiance is in our bones. citracal pearls. delicious berries and cream. soft, chewable, calcium plus vitamin d. only from citracal. carry the centimeter, divide by 3.14 something something something... [ beeping, whirring ] great caesar salad! ♪ and now the name your price tool shows people policy options to help fit their budget. is

gergen? >> i disagree. satisfactory, it's fairly consistent with the way people live their lives. i imagine i have -- i bet everyone on this stage has taken a view in public as a commentator, and things change, things evolve, and you change your mind what you're looking at. >> i'll let you bring it home, bob. show of hands for people who have changed their opinion or evolved over time. >> sure, but we remember. >> you've never done that? you have. i know you. >> i change my mind about things i was thinking about this morning. and that's what i find refreshing about donald trump. he says i changed my mind. i'm a different person, a different career profession now. >> i have to say, to say that i oppose it after our troops were in harm's way. after soldiers were out there in the field. >> that's not what he said. >> that's not what he said. >> the first time he was questioned about it, the first time it was on the record as -- was then. go ahead, bob. bring it home. >> look, trump once again tonight got away

david gergen is back with me. you hear brianna's reporting. numbers on the poll, particularly on race, asked who would be best on the economy, whites say sanders, blacks say clinton. whites say sanders, blacks say clinton, democratic values. more than half the democrats in south carolina are black. you hear brianna saying he's trying now to win them over. does he have a shot of winning enough of them over before the primary? >> almost no shot. hillary clinton has a commanding lead now in south carolina. and there's a little more time, of course, before the south carolinian vote in the democratic primary. the gop is this saturday. but, you know, and she also got a commanding lead among blacks. even with the generational split. the surprise to me was the white vote. and the white vote, bernie sanders is beating her 54-40 in south carolina. that's in a democratic party in south carolina. you got a lot of moderates. you think there are not that many sanders-type liberals you would think, so that may be a warning sign for their campaign as they go

with me, david gergen. cnn political commentator amanda carpenter who used to be the communications director for senator ted cruz. also with us, todd gillman, the washington burreau chief for th dallas morning news. this back and forth over donald trump's taxes, where the main aggressor is one willard mitt romney, the 2012 republican nominee. i suppose there are two questions. you've been on the record with us saying you think at some point donald trump will be vetted more than he has in the past and this may be one of those areas that will take place in. be that as it may, is willard mitt romney the right messenger for this attack? >> it certainly does show he is the embodiment of the establishment. for him to compae out, i think it's unprecedented to come out like this. but where's his evidence? what does he know that we don't know? interesting to hear. >> impressive for the man who was the republican nominee. i should note that donald trump announced mitt romney four years ago and in case anyone forgets,

but we're going to see a huge stop trump effort in the media as david gergen was saying earlier, we will see some real serious overdue reporting on trump. we will see the republican regulars at this point take out all of the stops to try and halt this train, because they see the destruction of the republican party ahead. and also, we have ended the so-called dynasty of bush tonight. i think that we might see bernie sanders start to make an argument that says it's time that we wednesday all of the dynasties, including the clinton dynasty. because in a way he, too, is the outsider who has a chance to start a movement. he has already. and it could keep going, and he has to come up with some new angles to keep moving on what he had before the momentum was broken tonight. >> and let's bring in scottie as a trump supporter, you're shaking your head. why? >> i am not going to be insulting every journalist as mr. trump has made himself available to more journalists for questioning. everybody has talked to him and asked them the hard questions and he's handled them. >> we definitely ask the quest

david gergen is back with me now. pretty interesting.g question for you now is, why did george w. bush wait so long? he is an asset in terms of numbers. his approval rating, 52%, up 20 points since he left office. by some measures, more than barack obama. why do we have this one ad? >> we think george w. bush is going, too peer in south carolina and may well go other places. i think they waited because of the dynasty question. that seems to be a burden for jeb, and he wanted to do this on his own. barbara bush coming out, she was the best witness to who he is and anyone in his campaign. better than him. that often happens to a candidate. they're not very good at promoting themselves and jeb is not very good at that in his campaign but his mother was very good at talking about who he is how she sees him. that was effective. >> do you think that will move voters in new hampshire? more undecided voters than people supporting the front-runner donald trump. could they break for jeb at this point? is it possible? >> i am not sure you'll see a

david gergen, amanda carpenter, paul begala. so many polls showed donald trump winning in the final tally last night, he came closer to finishing third than finishing first. what happened? >> well, he had a great air game and ted cruz had a great ground game. one of the things we've learned in the middle east, if you have an air game you can't win unless you also have boots on the ground and he did not have that. he didn't have the forces on the ground to compete with ted cruz. ted cruz outmatched him on that. that's how obama won in large part in 2008. he had a better organization on the ground, surprised in iowa, did very, very well. and continued to do extremely well in caucus states putting boots on the ground and frankly donald trumps a novice at this. i don't think he quite got -- he didn't have a good campaign manager to do all of that stuff for him and i think he just misjudged where he was going to come in. >> amanda, you work for senator cruz. as i said to brian fallon, congratulations on the victory. if you dive into

out voters, especially when you're trying to close an enthusiasm gap. >> that analysis from david gergen. it's still not clear who the president will nominate to take over scalia's vacant seat. but the republicans have made no secret about their strategy, a strategy to delay or block the nomination. we get more on the republican game plan. >> now president obama said he would wait until next week potentially or even after, to choose the replacement to justice scalia, but that doesn't mean the battle lines aren't already being drawn, technically in the united states senate. on saturday night, majority leader mitch mcconnell who sets the schedule and decides on which nominees get to be voted on, the next president should nominate, not the current president, and currently, the current president, president obama, did not listen to mr. mcconnell and is planning to move forward. now the next move for mcconnell is whether they allow a vote on the senate floor to confirm or deny the next supreme court justice. this is something that they have not yet fully decided, largely because senator mcconn

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it looks like gergen about what need to start the day in spots. let's talk highs today. because the 40s. a little cloud cover here. it will end up being a very nice day. mid- 40s tomorrow. hope what would suit that looks colder weather. it's a great nose. after the break are mourning a let's get to the developing a new stories. what an incredible story this morning a garbage truck driver being called a hero. it all unfolded. it's at the speedway gas station. i'm told the driver heard something in the truck. it is unclear how that person is doing. this definitely could have ended worse. a man was found dead. the suspect in a michigan shooting spree that took lace over the weekend is expected in court today. they feel like they know what happened. after they say he went on a shooting rampage around town as they were michigan. six people dead. he chose his victims at random started just before 6:00 saturday. it lasted over four hours. they say he had ties in the community. a heartbreaking discovery outside of detroit. an entire family of six the generator was running on the

david gergen, what's do you think they need to do?rnie sanders must reintroduce himself to a lot of people. after his convincing win, people think, maybe this can catch fire. they'll be listening to him and taking it more seriously. she needs to refresh her message and be more inspirational. to go to paul begala's point. it needs to van arc, a theme about the future. >> do you agree with van jones who made the point when she talks it's i, i, i, not so much about we which he believes, senator sanders talks more about we as a movement? >> i haven't noticed that that much. i have a question about whether it's smart. i think she is the embodiment of the establishment and an anti-establishment electorate. is she smart? she's got to somehow -- i think she's got to become herself. i wonder whether she should wrap herself in barack obama as tightly as she is. she's part of today's establishment. how does she break loose from that. >> she's got to become herself. at the town hall we did last week, it almost seemss to all blend together, one th

also david gergen as well as cnn political commentator, republican strategist margaret hoover. were you surprised at how forceful rubio came out, really for out of the gate against donald trump last night? >> no, i wasn't. he really had to. this was his moment. he -- trump had all the momentum. if he was going to demonstrate to folks this was a two-man race, he had to come out and take on trump. >> is this something he should have done eight debates ago? >> probably. once the voting has started, once there's momentum, debates don't change the narrative as much as they do when they are the only focus in a campaign. right now there's lots going on between states that's are voting and other campaign events. when debates are the only thing, they tend to set the narrative. now they're not. he probably should have attacked him four debates ago. >> the time to have defined donald trump not as a person because everybody already probably had an opinion about donald trump as a person when he came into this race, but as a political candidate, was probably a long time ago. now opinions are

gloria borger, nia mallika henderson and david gergen. it's interesting these new polls. certainly good news for donald trump who feels pretty confident here baseod what he said to me today. >> it seems like he should feel pretty confident. there's a large margin of error in these polls. it's fluid. we saw that rubio got a bounce, but the important thing for donald trump in new hampshire is that he didn't tank, right? he still is doing very well. and, you know, i was at a cruz event today, and there are lots of people at this event who were saying i'm not sure between cruz and trump. there seems to be a lot of indecision between those two. >> interesting. david, trump clearly is holding on to his lead. how worried should he be about marco rubio's momentum, or even ted cruz for that matter? >> he should be definitely worried about marco rubio. rubio has come up seven points from the last poll here in new hampshire. and he still is pretty far behind. but he does have what they are calling marco momentum. and if he were to catch trump or even come close, it's going to be a b

senior political analyst david gergen and david chalion.hat is a stunning thing when you look at that. we knew the young voters would go for we knew young voters were going to go for sanders, but 84%. >> on a night when there was encouraging news for hillary clinton, one thing she has to keep on eye on, what's going on among the young. that's an essential part of the coalition that president obama put together, the young, minorities and women, that's what swept him into office. if she starts losing the young, special especially the young wo that's what's so interesting. running as the first woman president. that seems a lot to people over 45 on the polls but doesn't matter to people especially under 30. this is a new generation that has different values and we're going to be discussing this. do they seem to care more about their rights, rightfully theirs, their spite tentitlements rathe if they have a woman in the white house? >> see the age divide and deep divide in the democratic party on the qualities they see in bernie sanders and hilla

kasich, and some kind of form, but we will see now a huge stop trump effort in the media as david gergenaying earlier, we will see some real serious overdue reporting on trump. we will see the republican regulars at the point take out all of the stops to try and halt this train, because they see the destruction of the republican party ahead. and also, we have ended the so-called dynasty of bush tonight. i think that we might see bernie sanders start to make and a argument that it is a time that we end all of the dynasties including the clinton dynasty, because in a way he, too, is the outsider who has a chance to start a movement. he has already. and it could keep going, and he has to come up with some new angles to keep moving on what he had before the momentum was broken tonight. >> and let's bring in scottie and you are shaking your head and what are you saying? >> i am not going to be insulting every journalist as mr. trump has made himself available to more journalists for questioning, and everybody has talked to him, and they have been asking him the hard question, and he has been

david gergen wants to jump in. go ahead. >> sure. carly fiorina has lost her campaign but hasn't lost her voice. i think we are going to fine her returning to television studios like this one talking to you about these issues. and by issuing that last final message she is going to be very much in the fray on this argument that matalin at bright and gloria steinham started last week. it appeared to backfire. women said we are a new generation, let us make up our own mine. that argument is is going to be important as hillary clinton seeks out the support of women. i think carly fiorina is going the stay in the fray, if you will, even though she doesn't stay in the race. >> interesting. young women say they are not in it for the boys. they say if it's ultimately not bernie sanders, then won't vote. i also happen to have standing by, we're thrilled to have him back on the show, item poe lenty, a former governor in minnesota who ran for president a couple years ago. governanor, welcome back, as we are getting the news on carly fiorina dro

analyst, david gergen, you've seen a lot of these dea debates. what do you make of this one? >> i can't remember a candidate for the presidency who is more experienced and competent than hillary clinton was tonight. she was on top of the issues, she was very factual. i thought she won the arguments. i thought he did a better job at capturing the anger and the frustration in the country. i'm not sure which played out. i'm not sure it changed a lot of minds but i did think there was a real difference in debating style. >> michael smerconish? >> for the first hour and 45 minutes, i thought there was no blood drawn. it got very interesting at the end pertaining to bill press' book. you're going hear what he those say than. i thought he looked shaken after she laid out what she had to say. and i thought it was a pitch by secretary clinton to solidify her support in the african american community by saying this guy has not stood with barack obama. >> gloria? >> i think the person looming over this debate is president obama, completely. and what was interesting to me was the ways in

a group of about 10 or 12 political strategist david gergen advice. -- clinical strategists and gave .heir good advice grad but he was saying this is worth pursuing, it is not crazy. this is a real uphill battle. you'll be up against the biggest political machine in the country. one of the most experienced people in the country. hillary clinton. and who knows who else? so it was a way, way, way long shot. but it wasn't crazy. brian: how long ago was that? mr. press: april 2014. brian: and he announced when? mr. press: april or march of 2015. brian: how much more that did you persue? did you start to get interested? did he ask you to come work for him? mr. press: no. he called me at one point said -- i may be off, i will have to check, but at one point he said i learned a lot at that, that was good. do you think we could have another meeting? we did. carolat my house and quote. the second was chicken cacciatore. [laughter] she has her own website. so we have a second meeting at our house. time, things had moved along. bernie was much more serious about it. if you are going to run, you

a group of about 10 or 12 political strategist david gergen advice.his is worthing pursuing, it is not crazy. this is a real uphill battle. you'll be up against the biggest political machine in the country. one of the most experienced people in the country. brian: how long ago was that? april 2014. brian: and he announced when? march of: april or 2015. brian: how much more that did ue? pers did he ask you to come work for him? brianmr. press: no. he caught me at one point and off, i willy be have to check, but at one point he said i learned a lot at that, that was good. do you think we could have another meeting? we did. we have been used in the second was chicken cacciatore. [laughter] so we were figuring out, if you're going to run, you can run as a democrat. the second time, it was you are not crazy, but you ought to do this. brian: i suspect you would not tell me who else was at that dinner? it was done off the record. dinnerere people at that that now support hillary clinton? mr. press: i don't know. not that i know of but i don't know. brian: wa

david gergen, thanks, appreciate it. great wisdom from the guy who's been through it. >>> thank you so much for watching. i'm going to pats it off to another guy with a lot of wisdom, wolf blitzer. he starts right now. >>> hello, i'm wolf blitzer, it's 1:00 p.m. in washington, 6:00 p.m. in london, 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. up first, so-called political outsiders turning the presidential race upside down. a brash billionaire businessman and reality tv star is, a 74-year-old self-declared democratic socialist both winning very big in the first primary election of the 2016 campaign. senator bernie sanders trouncing hillary clinton 60% to 38% in new hampshire primary. on the republican side donald trump took 35% of the vote, ohio governor john kasich finished second with 16%. followed by senator ted cruz, former florida governor jeb bush and senator marco rubio. trump told cheering supporters he'll fix the country's problems, including the economy

. >> it's we have david gergen on earlier, who as you know advised at least four presidents by our count the point, which is really remarkable when you think about it. this year you have the senate up for grabs, you have the white house up for grabs and you have the supreme court up for grabs in effect. three branches of government. i mean and we also have as you know, a very divided country. have you ever seen anything like this in recent memory? or studied anything like this where you have so many things up for at stake this year? >> the only place we've seen this in some sort of aaron sorkin type of teleplay. no, i have no idea how certain things are going to break. because everybody, myself included, said donald trump was going to fall on his face by october and here we are in february. >> let's talk about the dangers here for the republican party. if the senate doesn't let this come up to president. he's president, he comes up to a candidate who is fairly middle of the road for this white house. is the, are the republicans in the senate republicans on the hill in danger of a -- kind

and david gergen, senior political analyst joining us from massachusetts tonight.you see this playing out, jeff? >> with no confirmation. >> you don't think they're going to happen? >> absolutely not. this seat is too precious to the republicans. this is the pivot on the -- on which the court turns. four democratic appointees. five republican appointees, with scalia. to have five democratic appointees would be an earthquake in the history of the supreme court. and the republicans have the power to stop a nominee, and they're going to use it. >> dana, this is a year you not only have a presidency up for grabs but control of congress. democrats already saying this is gop obstructionism. >> they are, but the republicans who have the most to lose in the senate, the most vulnerable. five incumbent republicans who are potentially in trouble and in danger of losing their seats. four of them came out today saying that they are in support of what mitch mcconnell is doing. they think it is the correct thing to do to wait until president obama is out of office and the next pr

unexpected happening, john king, host of cnn's "inside politics," gloria borger and mike rogers, david gergen, and amanda carpenter. he's a trump supporter, she not so much. also sanders supporter and obama critic bill press who's a cnn political commentator and finally not just because today is mardi gras, a democratic party official as well, cnn political commentator, donna brazile. there's so much to watch for. in terms of the republican side, there is a real fight for second and third right now. >> yeah. i think there is. and that's what makes this evening so fascinating because if you assume that because donald trump has been first in the last, what, 75 polls that he's going to win tonight, what we see is a bunch-up here of the republican mainstream. and we saw marco rubio get a bronze medal in iowa, but everyone paid attention to him after that. he had a bad debate saturday night. and now the question is will this muddle of establishment republicans start sorting itself out. >> will there be a narrowing of the republican field after new hampshire. >> there will be a narrowing. the quest

with me ben ferguson and david gergen.this a good thing that jeb bush is doing? >> i think it is. i think he should have done it a long time ago. the way that republicans and conservatives look at george bush 43, they like him and understand how much of a president he was for them, specifically looking at what barack obama has done over the last eight years. i don't think that jeb's campaign was smart early on. they should have em wrased the legacy. they tried to make him his own unique candidate. i understand the reasoning, but ultimately bringing out in and out only his mom but his brother is a smart move in south carolina. and i also think the attacks the other night by donald trump were really -- it was an emotional attack. it was a bad decision, a bad move to blame george bush for 9/11 and to say that he's a liar. i don't think that connects well with south carolina voters. >> but, david, the iraq war is considered, even among republicans, a mistake. so could george w. actually hurt bush in the long run? >> i don't th

gloria borger and david gergen are here as well. amanda carpenter. with us as well cnn national security commentator mike rogers and last but not least jeff ery lower. let me start with you. donald trump's ground game. how confident are you as a trump supporter about his ground game? >> i'm confidence in chuck laudner who put this together for rick santorum. he knows his stuff and insists they have got their act together. we will see. this as donald trump's campaign manager said this is the super bowl for chuck laudner so i'm sure he's prepared. >> chairman rogers what are you watching for? >> i think if the snow can push back the newer voters, that would, you know, give one to ted cruz going into the effort. but what we found is and we talked to some folks on the ground today, they have never had so many calls in an election year for new voters trying to figure out how to get to the rip polls. i would argue if that continues and they actually show up, it's going to be a trump night. but at the end of the day, that evangelical, organized ground game

joining us gloria borger, senior political reporter nia-malika henderson and david gergen. it's interesting these new polls. certainly good news for donald trump, who feels pretty confident here based on what he said to me today. >> yeah, it seems like he should feel pretty confident there is a large margin of error in the polls. it's fluid. we saw that rubio got a bounce. but the important thing for donald trump here in new hampshire is that he didn't tank. he is still doing very well. i was at a cruz event today. and there are lots of people at this event who are saying i'm not sure between cruz and trump. there seems to be a lot of indecision between those two. >> david, trump is clearly holding on to his lead. how worried should he be about marco rubio's momentum or even ted cruz for that matter? >> he should be definitely worried about marco rubio. rubio has gone up 7 points from the last poll here in new hampshire. and he's still pretty far behind. but he does have what they -- they're calling marco momentum. if he were to catch trump or even come close, it's going to