we are here with geri lynn matthews and michael matthews, talking about a very difficult subject -- rapen the military -- and michael is a survivor. and, michael, i know that because you and geri lynn have worked on this for so many years now, dealing with it for so many years with your documentary and just staying involved, you have some numbers in your head about just how bad this problem is in the military. >> well, you know, we have roughly the numbers of veterans walking around in our community -- six million veterans have been raped -- male veterans have been raped. and the percentage of suicides -- there's 22 a day, veterans killing themselves right now. and the percentage of those is, only 12% of those are actually combat-related. roughly, about 2.5%, so, where's the other 80%, you know, 80-something-% coming from? and -- and the apa tells us that a man who is raped and does not try to get help for it, get counseling, will try to commit suicide at least twice in their life. that's 90% of them. >> now, tell me what the apa is, please? >> oh, american psychiatric association. >> mm