germany's chancellor angela merkel said kohl held fast to the dream of a united germany even as others hesitated. tonight we look at the man and his legacy. ♪ >> welcome to the program. we're joined by dw's she correspondent. -- chief correspondent. helmut kohl's passing away has been something the country has been preparing for for a number of months. >> there had even been a couple of temporary scares where people thought this may be the moment. most of the mainstream media, the networks, print magazines have been updating their grasp -- graphs for him, knowing this is going to be coming. it is a very momentous moment indeed. >> we will get into evaluating the moment. let's talk about what the current german chancellor had to say. >> at this moment i'm thinking with great respect and great gratitude about the life and achievements of the german chancellor helmut kohl. thinking of this man who was great in every sense of the world -- word, his achievement. it will take some time before we truly appreciate what we lost with his passing. helmut kohl was a great german and a great europe

he was a unifier of germany and europe. theheir he did not start reunification, thehe people of eastst germany started the procs in g g did not complete the unification but nevertheless, he was an extremely important element in the processes. >> you experienced in close-up on many occasions. what kind of a man was he? >> he had a lot of different sides. he could be very friendly but he to waslso be very brutal the people around him. as a journalist, i experienced all of that close-up. this is also part of his legacy. >> allen, what is your strongest memory of helmut kohl? give us something that tells us the most about who he was? >> i remember on the night the wall came down for the night after that when he flew from berlin.imberland -- to there was an assembly in front of the town hall where john f. kennedy had his speech. the mayor of west berlin was there. there was a crowd of people who were jubilant at the fall of the wall and helmut kohl starts to sing the german national anthem. you can hear, they are all out of tune

there was little appetite for that outside germany and inside germany. now our main partner, france, has a leader in emanuel macron who said just that. we know the outlines of this. it means a real banking union. it means -- it means -- it means a common financial policy represented by a common financial minister in the euro zone. melinda: which angela merkel has just said she might be willing to embark on. >> exactly. and it means if you have that, it means a transfer union to the southern states to get them out of the fix they're in. and this is going to be paid as tony said is going to be paid out of german taxpayers' pockets. merkel nk that once wins the election in september and with some trepidation she will then she can squander the rest of her political capital because she will not stand on re-election in putting this through. i think there's a good chance it will happen. i think europe actually inspires -- in spite of all these problems is actually in a better state now than it was this time last year. melinda: lawyers, many people are looking t

yes, germany is the biggest trading partner for mexico. if you look at the numbers, trade between germany and mexico is roughly $18 billion. trade between mexico and the u.s. is roughly $500 billion. you can't really compare the two and we shouldn't forget the biggest part of the trade deficit that the u.s. is having, they do not have that with germany or mexico, but mostly with china. there's no reason not to talk to each other and mexico and germany can strengthen relationships. and maybe think about doing more. >> what are companies saying about the u.s. pulling back? >> protectionism and immigration policies, those are two big ones that concern the top managers here in the united states. look at the big tech companies in silicon valley. roughly one third of their employees, when it comes to trade policies, it is a big concern. and we've heard from some ceos in the united states that do not know the rules any longer. we don't really know what the new government is doing, when they are going to do it. there is concern. >> the qatar crisi

-- those conflicts to germany. a few months ago, we already have a debate in germany about turkish officials being allowed or not being able to hold rallies over the british referendum. >> the foreign ministry has decided th i in the future we will not allow campaign appearances that only serve to import domestic conflict from other countries into germany. >> german-turkish relations have been strained for months now. could this be merkel wanting to be seen as taking a firm stance against turkey with her eye on the elections? >> you can see it that way. every decision in the next few days and weeks will be analyzed as part of the debate, as part of the process leading up to the september election. in this particular case it is much more than a decision referring to the election. it was a decision that was concerted among all members of the german government and have to do with the fact that we already have this debate in the past. you can understand this decision as the governor --the german government trying to sh

as for germany, england will take little consolation that germany over all were the better team.the game to bed, but germany kept their shape, they were very good. they are heading for a friday night final against spain they are heading for a friday night finalagainst spain in they are heading for a friday night final against spain in crack. that's where the spanish by italy tonight. —— in krakow. the atletico madrid midfielder scored a hat—trick tonight. spain, who are the favourites, they've looked very, very good at this championship. but spain against germany on friday night in krakow, that's going to be a very special match. but obviously it's not the match we wanted. agonising stuff. thanks, olly. it might bejune, but next season's champions league has already started, and welsh side the new saints are already struggling to stay in the competition after losing their first qualifying round, first—leg tie 2—1 to europa fc of gibraltar. tns were 1—0 down when scott quigley equalised a minute before half—time with a quite brilliant flick and shot. alas for quigley and tns, they

and what was then west germany. he died in june of 1987 when his program was established in his name. his goal is to strengthen the understanding between two powerful western allies, seldom more relevant than it is today . the importance of the relationship was front and center in berlin 30 years ago this summer. it was there that resident ronald reagan delivered one of his most memorable speeches. it was a call to tear down the wall that divided the post-world war ii world. and appealed to our common humanity and freedom and dignity. it is a call that should be trumpeted again today. we're fortunate to have with us today to talk about speech through -- three of the most knowledgeable people of the moment. the ambassador, who is onstage in berlin, with president reagan, also a trustee of the program. peter robinson, a white house speechwriter and had riemer responsibility for the speech. and the former deputy editor who wrote a book on it and will moderate today's conversations. i will hand it to them. thank you. [a

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but there's one key difference in how germany fights its war on terror.hen it comes to key intelligence, the most important tool, germany relies almost entirely on the u.s. reporting from berlin, scott thuman asks -- what does the u.s. get out of the deal? scott: from the cold war's dividing line, the berlin wall, to the epic relic of espionage, checkpoint charlie, now turned tourist trap, germany has a long history of keeping populations in place as the times and politics dictate. but germany is now struggling to separate and contain suspected terrorists and stop an ever-growing string of attacks. christmastime in berlin. the market attack by a radicalized refugee from tunisia, who made his way into germany, killed 12 and injured more than 50, when he drove a truck into the celebrating crowd. a year ago, a train attack near wurzburg, when an afghan alu and a suicide bombing at a music festival in ansbach, a syrian refugee blew himself up, 15 people were hurt. guido steinberg: i personally think that the rise in the number of terrorists here in germany is

ambassador to germany recall the president's speech and trip. the international center for journalist posted this event. it is an hour and a half. collects evening, everybody. please find your seats. good evening. thanks for setting up this wonderful event. mr. robinson, members of the board, alumni in attendance, students, and ladies and gentlemen. for me, it is a pleasure and an honor to open the event today. i am pleased to see so many faces. some fairly young faces. i am particularly pleased knowing the students today do not necessarily cherish things that happened 30 years ago. jon bon jovi or george michael or dirty dancing, there have in cooler times in history than the 80's. that is what my children keep reminding me. this is, however, different. with president reagan's speech. from president kennedy's visit, it might he better known in germany and the u.s. know thatlicy nerds there is nothing like resident reagan's secretary-general gorbachev and his call to tear down this wall. interestingly, the speech received very little coverage at

a place to appear not very likely but then again should we be surprised tensions between germany and turkey have been building up for months now starting with germany pulling its military from turkey is airbase and sending it to jordan after ankara denied german officials a visit to the big house on the other hand you've got turkey angry with germany for granting asylum to turkish citizens who allegedly took part in the failed cool of twenty sixteen and of course girl and also stepped in to stop turkish rallies in germany to support or want to push for broader powers in a referendum back in april germany you have no notion of democracy your practices are no different from the nazi practices of the past my comment that the nazi comparisons in turkey's part must and is valid without our butts and fortunately we see that this comparison is haven't stopped and we are not going to allow it. they would revive gas chambers in concentration camps if they weren't ashamed this is their mentality they are disturbed when we say that this is not semen. well it's no

and the tour de france is back in germany for the first time in decades. the 104th version starting on saturday in the city of dusseldorf. we will get a preview from the sports desk. ♪ sarah: hello, welcome. i'm sarah harman. thank you for joining me. gay couples can start planning their weddings in germany after parliament passed a bill giving same-sex couples the right to marry. it has wide support across germany and there was instant reaction in berlin, where emotional scenes unfolded outside the bundestag and the office of chancellor merkel as people gathered to celebrate. [cheers] correspondent: a moment some had waited a lifetime to see. in the corinne, supporters of gay marriage gathered outside of the office of chancellor merkel to cheer on the vote. it is not just about politics for many, the new law affects them and personal ways. >> with today we are parents like anybody else. we love you more than our lives and ourselves and today this decision means we can tell our sons that they have two ordinary parents, just as anybody else. >> it feels gre

america has a large trade deficit in germany. if germany spent what it is supposed to spend on the fence, and if it bought that stuff in america, the trade deficit would not be so great, and the germans -- "you americans cannot build cars." that is not the point. it was pretty good that trump told them where they could -- erik: tom has a very important -- trump has a very important point about the 2%. those who know what nato is will say you have a point. why can't the nato partners spend what they promised on the fence? the united states has been spending wealth on defense. why can't the europeans do that as well? west germanyer, was defended by nato and the united states, so now it is time for the rich countries in europe to spend what they promised on defense. what is the problem? rieke: you might have a point. i mean, the way he made that point, the way he acted with all these world leaders, i think it shows a clear neglect of transatlantic relations and importance, and i think it was clearly devoted to his constituency at ho

stick around. . >> germany is a strong country. we have achieved so much, we can do this is something hinders us, we must overcome it. >> going where it is uncomfortable, global news that matters.s. dw, made for mines. >> did you know it cost 50 said -- >> welcome back with dw news from berlin. our top stories, several islamic state have severed ties with qatar. they are accusing qatar of supporting terrorism in the region. they have denied the charges. british police have released the names of two of the men carried out saturday night's terror attack in london. one was a british citizen. he was known to authorities but there was no intelligence to suggest that he was planning an attack. less known was this man. several peoplele were attacked n saturday -- killed in the attack on s surday. >> this woman joined her fiancÉ in london. she died in his arms, she was 30 years old. just south of the bridge, the first signs of everyyy life returning at the scene of the attack. access to the area remains very limited. businesses are closed.

points in the the relationship between germany and turkey at the minute we've seen president the ones bodyguards being told they won't be allowed to enter the country in order to attend the g twenty dollars after they hit the handed approach when they were in washington d.c. we've also you seen germany announce that it's at the end of this month it's going to stop pulling its troops out of the incirlik air base there they're going to be moving to jordan that soft german lawmakers were refused access to go and visit there that in troops that are stationed there we've also you seem to be angry over germany looking to accept asylum applications from some soldiers that are accused of having taken part in the attempted coup that tried to overthrow the relationship is in tatters at the moment and of course we've got to remember germany a key player within europe turkey is the key component in the e.u. refugee return deal which at the moment old posts exists only on paper and peter offering up a lot of commentary let's try and answer some of those questions and cross live to journalists mart

politics what's tricky over the last few years in germany has accepted every. inch of lightness in every the relations of the church thought and this has gone too far and now a lot germany tries to set limits europeans are champions of democracy on whom arise when we speak about the middle east but then. speak about the home arise and move number ites in europe they are you know of some kind of double standards and hypocrisy as the strongest economy in the world and the strongest military power i guess that those europe and the u.s. have. to react in a proper way and to sit and to see to to chookie. we want to be part of you but accept a rules if you don't accept the rules you have to accept that did we are a little bit harder that used to be elections are coming up in germany and they try to use you notice some kind of islamophobia or to go for b. or xenophobia that's a very a famous in order to turn your scene jorma these kind of things and they started again i think it will carry on up to the next election in elections in germany in there and off or i think

elections in germany. than. normal after that. it's nice and full caught up to seventeen billion taxpayer euros to wind to fail banks we ask people whether they're ready though to bail out the bankers again. this is money that's been taken from our pockets why should we have to worry about saving the failing banks so many other priorities schools and small businesses are in crisis if politicians want to help detail in economy they should start with the middle class not save the banks we've had enough. it's not right the banks do not deserve to be given this money the people who made the banks fail should be held responsible i'm. very angry about the situation i work hard to earn money we can't go on like this. it's completely immoral we're all angry because. bank managers should take responsibility for these failures are not small time savers let me. go to school now you'll probably remember the banks and bailouts are really out of the news in the wake of the two thousand and eight credit crunch but then politicians run the world

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politics what's tricky over the last few years in germany has accepted every. inch of lightness in every the relations of the church. and this has gone too far and now a lot germany tries to set limits europeans are champions of democracy on home arise when we speak about the middle east but then. speak about the more eyes and move number ites in europe they are you know of some kind of double standards and hypocrisy is doing whatever it can still show its power and to be is doing what every can it's. to misbehave and i'll elias like to like us they say start out on. you know on very far but no no you reach a limit i guess of that's a very good symbol to show everyone you can do a lot but you can't do everything we had a agreement between europe and turkey germany and turkey related to immigrations of me to free weezer and they. promised to the development of some kind of six million dollars for the syrian. moderators but they didn't deliver their promises and then when in turkey president are gone or the government twenty we're speaking about this kind of thin

germany is united nato has three new members and the european union soon grow embraced nation's whatemarkable few years and has been. the story of helmut kohl is a 20th-century in goods born in a small city on the rhine and saw firsthand the ravages of the nazis. but the young man was? to see those possibilities in the postwar world. there the marshall plan he sought europeans and americans could do together to spread good will among young people. when he was only 16 he was one of the very first people to join the christian democratic union zero '02 46 was his number. and 50 years ago at the age of 19 he and his friends were briefly detained at the french border for causing the friendliest border incident in history they tried to remove the barriers between the countries in support of the franco-german friendship of european unity. he was not your everyday teenager. as the helmut kohl political star rose he believed in and people were crucial to the future and he still believes that everything kim and the young people who were here to honor him. fox a -- he always maintained europe m

it cannot be that regardless you are allowed to stay in germany. >> germany has deported 106 afghansn the past month. the postponed deportations will likely soon be resumed. >> dw met one afghan man who has been repatriated. he's fearful of the ongoing violence. have a look. >> fear, alienation, loneliness. this is what he associates with kabul. last december he returned on the first deportation flight. he's afraid to show his face for fear of the taliban from whom he fled at the time. >> the taliban murdered my father because he was a famous general. that is why i fled. if they find me they will kill me. i can't go on the streets. i'm afraid for my life. it's not safe here. >> he looks at pictures from germany. he misses his friends from the school he attended one has asylum application was rejected. migration did not believe his story and they deported him. >> it's not fair. after six years we were integrating. i learned the language. i did training. it was never easy but we did it. i think it is wrong they would kick us out. >> today he has an appointment, its founder went back to

when east and west germany were reunited and a single country. in 1999, president clinton alerted chesler the us presidential medal of freedom. here is that ceremony, it is one half hour.♪ ♪ [music] [applause] >> secretary cohen, senator, congressman pickett, other members of congress, retired members of congress, president informers of the diplomatic corps. and to our german and american exchange students who are here. welcome to the white house. today is my privilege to confirm america's highest civilian honor. on a great statesman of the 20th century. .> >> that day with a celebrated partnership of variations and leaders to help end the cold war with a victory for freedom. today we honor a partnership dedicated to building the 21st century europe that can preserve the freedom and peace and find genuine unity for the first time. today we honor those leader whose values and vision have made that possible. in 1991 the world is very different the berlin wall had come down but a gulf separated the eastern half of your proof to from the most affluen

let's turn to germany.—sex marriage, a move that brings it in line with most other european countries. members of parliament voted in favour — after the german chancellor angela merkel changed her position to allow a free vote on gay marriage — though she herself, voted against it. jenny hill explains from berlin. cheering they've waited a long time for this. here, it's called "marriage for all." the new law means same—sex couples will be able to marry and adopt children. translation: it's a historic day for germany. today thousands of same—sex partnerships have been given equal status. the two—class system in love has been abolished. jubilation too inside the german parliament. the political left has fought for years to bring this legislation, but angela merkel has always opposed it, until earlier this week. during this interview she appeared to soften her stance. she'd met, she said, a lesbian couple who'd fostered eight children. they inspired a change of heart, and a free vote for mrs merkel‘s conservat

not just for me, but for all people in germany and in europe.plause] president, your visit today underlines the commitment of the american people in and for berlin. even before this creative and confident city that also demonstrates the great friendship that exists between germans and americans. backresident, please take with you this assurance, that berlin will continue to stand for the fascination of freedom. mr. president, please take to the unitedmr. president, pleaseo the united states of america warm greetings from the berliners and tell them, please tell them that we, berlin, will continue to stand for the fascination of freedom. [applause] chancellor kohl: [through translator] mr. president, my dear american friends, berliners. first of all, i would like to thank you, too, mr. president for your visit today in berlin. express it welcome on behalf of all of my german fellow countrymen this side of the wall , and on the other side of the wall. your visit, mr. president is dedicated to the 150th anniversary of her own german capital. it is

definition of germany. i'm going to merkel is that out a list of words that the chancellor believes it to mice is german this so if you know your article of the german constitution from your care to him your order from your valise allayed then your props on the same page as angular merkel but we came out onto the streets of berlin and right in front of the bundestag to ask people here what words they associate with germany if i say germany to you what all the five words you associate with germany the five. broad brushed. sartre out. favorites it's me. on time and and i also think perfect with germany for me to neighbors filmmaking didn't understand mrs merkel the parliament the chance to respond to the motorway that's also very good in germany still it's leash. pride order punctuality those are only three but those are the most important things we also asked them exactly what they thought of a glimmer cols least this is part of us there's of involved oh yeah there's broad it's not bad it's all volunteer fir

germany's president, the social democrat, said that a chapter of germany's history has now closed withhe death of a man who shaped it so decisively. he said german unity will be .ver linked to helmut kohl gerhard schroder, the former social democrat chancellor who fought a very bitter campaign against helmut kohl for the chancellery back in 1998, also paid his respects today to a great patriot and a great his former opponent helmut kohl. this is the tone that is coming out of germany tonight, germans remembering someone who is very important, the father of unity, and also a very important european. tom: thank you very much indeed for that, jessica saltz in berlin. for more now, let's cross to a universityt danube in austria and the founder of the european democracy lab think tank. thank you for speaking to us. would it be an exaggeration to say that helmut kohl change the shape of europe? >> no, i mean, the wall came down, and so basically, history meant that everything changed. you need to remember that kohl had been chancellor nine years before the wall came down, and that he was --

east germany was behind. during the second world war, right after essentially most of what matter was the world you were born into. >> that's right. as far east as you could go in germany without being in poland, as a result of world war ii because my parents met because there was towards the end of the war people would flee the oncoming russian army in the west didn't get very far but they wound up in the same space and that's how i got created in 1949. without the worry wouldn't be here. i wound up in the soviet occupied part of germany which then became the republic of the communist satellite soviet union. without communism and witness stand up at the kgb and without that i wouldn't be here and without that i wouldn't be an american citizen today. this is a bit bizarre, but there's a whole lot more to my story. "deep undercover" what was interesting is that the words and more so, many people here may not understand in east germany during that time, the war was still very fresh and hitler was still very fre

and we now know the four teams through to the semifinals of the confederations cup as germany win and chile do enough to progress in their deciding games we'll have a report from a special studio in sochi. thank you for joining us for the weekly news roundup this sunday on r.t. international i'm kate partridge we start with some breaking news this hour syria says its army positions in the golan heights have once again come under fire from israel it's the second strike in the area in two days artie's middle east correspondent paula slayer has more. well the syrian army has issued a statement in which it has accused the israelis of targeting syrian army positions on the side of the golan heights now the syrian army is currently fighting the terrorist group. and they say that the israeli attacks are only hoping. they have been to such israeli attacks since saturday as for the israeli side the israeli air force has acknowledged conducting those strikes it says that it is in response to projectiles that landed on the israeli side of the golan heights of course the golan heights is disputed

i spent five years in germany as a student and as a soldier. i was exposed to the apprenticeship system. i would like to talk about the pluses and minuses, in germany, the kids take an exam around eighth grade and determine the rest of their lives. if they do well, they go to an academic program and get something like a junior college degree. -- they can also go on to the university. the ones who do not will be in an apprentice type training. the upside of this is that when you go into a bakery or restaurant, or get your car repaired, you are guaranteed excellent work. the downside, if somebody really likes to cook at the age of 25, they cannot decide to start a restaurant as they have not gone through the program. we have the freedom and flexibility but we do not have the guarantee of good quality. we have a lot of people who like to work on cars and they started car repair shop. that is the plus and minus. we could stand a little more of a rigorous good apprenticeship program that would train people well. guest: in general, i think a growing

it's particularly important for germany because germany of courses and export orientated economy, itss largely reliant on selling its very high quality made in germany products around the world and it slowly but surely running out of consumers, especially if the us turns towards protectionism, donald trump has spoken about banning german cars from being sold in the us, germany needs to find new people to sell its cars to and india, china both booming markets in both markets it would like to make more inroads into but berlin and european leaders are slightly careful though because they still have lots of reservations about transparency in china, competition, so it's a warm reception but a cautious one. sri lanka says it will speed up flood relief as the death toll from heavy monsoon rains has risen above 200 people. the powerful storm turned into a cyclone and moved on to my marker and other parts. these are the worst torrential rains to hit sri lankan i4 are the worst torrential rains to hit sri lankan 14 years and more than five days since the downpours began many areas are severely

if germany was to attack poland, that is germany's business and it has nothing to do with the united states, but it very much concerned roosevelt, who was afraid what would happen if a major war developed and it had an effect on the united states. after poland fell very rapidly, divided up by germany and the soviet union, in which germany had made an agreement and that there was no land fighting, but there was a lot of sea fighting the between germany and essentially the british navy. the british had a much bigger navy than the french navy. roosevelt had a very clever idea of sort of getting in touch with the most important person who was concerned with this war, and this is winston churchill. winston churchill had been one of the big critics of the government in the 1930's, even though he was nominally a supporter of it, a backbench member of that government. he was taken into the government when the war began and given the job of running the admiralty, which is where the war was after the fall of poland, so what roosevelt proposed then was a secret correspondence with winston churc

germany has approved same-sex marriage. think there will be a lot of celebrating going on across germany today and tonight. anchor: thank you very much for that. after months of legal wrangling, donald trump's travel ban has committed to affect. citizens from six predominantly muslim nations will now need to prove they have a bona fide personal relationship to enter the united states. the new rules cover refugees hoping to enter the country as well. u.s. officials have promised institution will be orderly. customs and border protection agency says it expects business as usual at points of entry. we have this report. newrter: donald trump's travel ban has just come into effect. but already, dozens of protesters chant this slogan on the streets of new york. libya, iran, sudan, somalia, and yemen. as of friday, citizens of these predominantly muslim countries will be banned from entering the u.s. without a current visa for 90 days. 120 for refugees. >> we are in a political climate where muslims are being targeted by bigoted a

one country has taken on an unusual effort, and that is germany.s computer club, a tech focused watchdog is simply area caroline asked how exactly the chaos computer club helped the german government. >> we were looking at the data of which countries had the worst levels of fake news. oxford had done research that put high levels in the u.s. and u.k., but a blip in the data was germany, where the levels of professionally produced news versus other political items looked really good, and one place we looked was hackers themselves. there is the chaos computer club , an organization founded in the early 1980's that has helped instill a healthy dose of skepticism and tech savvy miss -- tech savviness among germans. caroline: what has the chaos computer club actually done to shine a light on where some of the weaknesses are in germany? withat they have done is, a bit of humor sometimes, taken on things like the voting machines themselves. a decade ago, when germany was starting to roll out voting computers, they said, i bet we can make one of these play