i mean, we don't care about any of the people many germany or france or anywhere else? yes, they have their own intelligence services spying, but still. you know, it's a question of sort of digital imperialism in a sense. and i hear that argument a lot, you know? every country spies. we all spy, every country spies. but every country doesn't have the nine largest internet companies home based in their backyard, and when you do have the nine largest internet companies in your backyard, you can force them to do things that other countries can't do. you can go to google, and you can force them to to give you whatever you want. but the nsa goes well beyond that. that's the front door. they also go through the back door. they tap into the fiber optic links between the data centers. so, no, i think that would -- that's something that i would like to see at least addressed is what -- where is this leading us in terms of worldwide surveillance of everybody, and is it rational we're paying for this? and are we just building the haystack so high that you'll never be able to find

entirety of what conservative means but i think he is saying why he is not a conservative in germany or france. conservatism is the one that is always dependent. a conservative in the united states is different from one in portugual. let's start in, you know, you divide the chapters up into different aspects of the stanchions of the debate. the legends of the stool or whatever appropriate wording we come up. talk about the structure. >> guest: the book takes specific events and pulls it apart into the themes that can then be understood and you see the disagreement and what you learn you can reapply to political events. it is the meted of political philosophy. it starts with the relationship of nature and politics. politics has to answer to human nature they would agree on but they had different ideas of what that nature is. thomas paine nature is like an enlightment science idea. he understand it as a source of rules. and rules that govern the behavior of individual particles, if you will, and society is a function of those particles. so it is like physics applied to politics. the way of getti

that's, turns out the rest of the people in the world, we don't care about any of the people in germany or france or anybody else. yes, they have their own intelligence services, spying, a still, it's a question of sort of digital ink realism in a sense. and i hear that argument a lot. every country spies. we all spy. every country spies but every country doesn't have the nine largest internet companies home-based in their backyard, and when you do have the nine largest internet companies in your backyard, you can force them to do things that other countries can do. you can go to google and force them to give you whatever you want. but the nsa goes well beyond that. that's the front door. they all go to the back door. they tap into the fiber optic links between the data centers. no, i think of something i would like to see at least addressed, is where is this leading in terms of worldwide surveillance of everybody? and is it rational we're paying for this and are we just doing the haystacks a high that you will never find a needle? those are good questions. >> i'm marc rotenberg from electronic p

i mean we don't care about any of the people in germany or france or anybody else?es they have their own intelligence services and spying but still. it's a question of digital imperialism in a sense. i hear that argument a lot. we all spy. every country spies but every country doesn't have the nine largest internet companies home-based in their backyard. and when you do have the nine largest internet companies in your backyard you can force them to do things that other countries can't do. you can go to google and force them to give you whatever you want. but the nsa goes well beyond that. there's the front door but they also go into the backdoor and tap into the fiber-optic link between the data centers so i think that's something i would like to see at least addressed and where is this leading us in terms of worldwide surveillance of everybody and is a rational we are paying for this? are we just building the haystack so high that we will never be able to find the needle so those are good questions. >> jim marc rotenberg from the electronic privacy information cent

i mean we don't care about any of the people in germany or france or anybody else?es they have their own intelligence services and spying but still. it's a question of digital imperialism in a sense. i hear that argument a lot. we all spy. every country spies but every country doesn't have the nine largest internet companies home-based in their backyard. and when you do have the nine largest internet companies in your backyard you can force them to do things that other countries can't do. you can go to google and force them to give you whatever you want. but the nsa goes well beyond that. there's the front door but they also go into the backdoor and tap into the fiber-optic link between the data centers so i think that's something i would like to see at least addressed and where is this leading us in terms of worldwide surveillance of everybody and is a rational we are paying for this? are we just building the haystack so high that we will never be able to find the needle so those are good questions. >> jim marc rotenberg from the electronic privacy information cent

i think his argument for why he is not conservative is why he's not a conservative in germany or france and less than britain or america. >> host: conservativism and radicalism are -- well, conservativism is the one ideology always plays consistent, depend department. a consecutive in port gal is very different than a conservative in the united states where we're basically trying to conserve a liberal revolution. >> guest: exactly. >> host: so let's start in -- divide these chapters up into these different aspects of the sort of stanchions of the debate or whatever appropriate metaphor we can come up with. why don't we start very much at the beginning and talk about the different views of nature and history. >> guest: the book is strictured in a way that tries to take a debate about specific political eventses and pull it apart into themes that can then be understood in themselves. so that you see what the disagreement is and then what you learn from the pose you can re-apply to political events. and so basically the method of plate festival, philosophy. it begin with the question of th

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or the e.u. countries france germany and poland to they guaranteed this so-called deal which was not worth the paper that it was written on and none of these ministers this is an even greater scandal none of these ministers all of them appear to be untroubled by this new development. it looks like the e.u. there that this phase may pressure the i.m.f. to give money to create this time not to give money of course but to lend money before and it may stay on record each the i.m.f. conditions were very tough. ukraine was supposed to hike the prices for electricity and for gas for the population it was also supposed to private eyes water that utility a saw that they could be they could become profitable and then they could be sold to foreign company yes we will see if there i.m.f. will stick to the same conditions but i think that ukraine's bankruptcy is enormous interest i think these countries a grain it may become bankrupt if completely irresponsible people come to power i mean i'm going to go to alexander here because i think that is you know one of the things i find very troublesome about everything

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does not seem to be the viewpoint of the western politicians or official figures we have already heard from representatives of germany and france that they are ready to talk. against ukraine and not just general sanctions but targeted personal sanctions probably meaning the governmental officials also there has been a statement from the. from moneygall barroso who has also expressed similar intentions. that was. live in moscow thank you very much and let's now look back at how the situation unfolded in kiev on tuesday when violence returns to the ukrainian capital for us the opposition rally be crowds and them is not limited to grab a flurry of talk as though it's a little. trouble began when radical protesters broke through police lines and the situation escalated even further one riot has tried to storm the office of ukraine's ruling party setting it on fire police struggled to contain the thousands of protesters throwing rocks and molotov cocktails some even used trunks to break through the security cordon three people were killed becoming the victims of the street violence which continued to escalate and less than two hours

ministers of france germany and poland of wrapped up their talks with the ukrainian government as a silly has more on the reaction from europe. the ministers are in the middle of discussing whether or not to impose sanctions on ukraine everybody is here to save for distillery foreign ministers of germany france and poland who are in kiev and they will be giving feedback to the ministers were here in brussels and in order to decide how to move forward now there are initial reports of some sort of a compromise has been reached with some or suggested that it could possibly involve . stopping down at the end of the year although if you remember a previously had said that he is open to holding a snap election if this is the only diplomatic and democratic way of resolving the ongoing conflict in the country now was far as comments here are concerned that the general consensus is that the government you could in government has to take the lead or whatever there are a few of the ministers and diplomats who are saying that they like the dutch foreign minister who is saying that they could possibly consider imposing sanctions as well on some of the protesters not what those sanctions are the

faced with either allowingsing the violence to continue or reduce his power he agreesed to that emergency session with germany, france and poland and opposition leaders. negotiations lasted all night long. at 7:00 this morning you crane time the president did announce a deal had been made and quote a coalition government would be formed. however, after that announcement here we go again. fighting broke out not in the streets but in ukraine's parliament. it's not the first time we've seen this in ukraine. seems on a yeefrly basis we see fist fights break out. it happened after the speaker announced there would be a delay in the debate how to reducian you covich's power. punches were thrown, people took off coats and threw them. back outside now as we take to you a live look here of independence square, you can see it looks rather calm. you see some of the tent city there is that propped up from the protesters camped there for three months. we should note it's too early to assume this resolution reached will end the violence. is there have been two truces. neither of them prevented the deadly violence we have seen over

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talking about the possible imposition of martial law and now believe it or not we have this deal in place brokered by france germany and poland but even they have now been forced to admit that the deal isn't working that basically the opposition leaders on sticking to that kind of the side of the deal that their involvement was essentially worthless. they took the opposition side it hasn't handed in its omes it hasn't stopped using force the barricades to still that the buildings are still occupied and that's despite the police force having pulled out of the center of kiev as we know so well that and postering basically on able to ensure any kind of heat. moxley murder scene electric and international relations and security studies at moscow state university says the mall because playing by its own rules here agreement that was agreed to on friday between the. so close its leaders. the opposition who actually has no control over what might be on mobs are doing at this point who is actually in control on the ground there has been. the deal with greek too has been broken and the congress in hard calls has declared th

each value or germany or which are which do not feel threatened by russia or anybody else for that matter still see nato as a very important privilege. and the military powers in europe france and britain they see nato as the platform on which they can actually still project power internationally and amplify their international influence well and though you know that you know i have a little britain and france does its own thing on its own in africa for example martin it seems to me that nato is just a fig leaf all it is is for american hegemony in and expanding american military might i mean you can say look all the there's a coalition of willing you know the the good westerners are all together it's a fig leaf it's not true. yes the americans are the dominate nato but must remember that they're cutting the military budget and obama doesn't believe in american exceptionalism so the five he's not conducting the foreign policy of george bush or ronald reagan would have conducted so therefore native from that point of view is becoming less american centric but of course from from its point of view it wants to get involved in africa doesn't want to al-qaeda to expand and you c

talking about the possible imposition of martial law and now believe it or not we have this brew could deal in place brokered by france germany and poland but even they have now been forced to admit that the deal isn't working that basically the opposition leaders on sticking to their current of the side of the deal that their involvement was essentially worthless. they took the opposition side it hasn't handed in its omes it hasn't stopped using force the barricades are still there the buildings are still occupied and that's despite the police force having pulled out of the center of kiev as we know so well that food and postering basically on able to ensure any kind of heat. meanwhile in a number of cities across the west and north of ukraine rioters have been tearing down the monuments of bloody lenin structures are coming under attack in apparent anti moscow sentiment as well. unknown the russian revolutionary was among those that brought about the formation of the soviet union mark slobodan senior lecturer in international relations and security studies at moscow state university says the armed rioters who have now taken

citizens from germany belgium france and several other states have left their homes to fight alongside the jihadists or some estimates put the figure much higher and the sounds of those of course poses major security concerns for europe with some of those volunteers expressing their intentions to wage holy war in the west after zero return and a group of british nationals fighting in syria has even turned to social media to put its extremist mess. across well they've released propaganda posters threatening terrorist attacks in britain and the u.s. targeting public transport and businesses centers and the captions on these images urging people to join the holy war and become martyrs for the cause political analyst mohammed on star believes these foreign fighters pose a threat not only to your but also to the people of syria one of the most warring auspex we've seen of late is that people who are out in syria fighters from britain have been calling others to come and join them whether they are british muslim women to support them affect your search for themselves out and setting themselves up as being ef

if germany prevailed, worse would follow as it already had or had started to in the metropolitan france. the police in cooperation with the man had recently begun deportations of the jews in france to the east. in september the american affairs in paris had made a kind of diplomatic effort to get to the premier of france to exempt 4,000 french jewish children from the deportations. he refused. the diplomat told washington the only way to save these children was perhaps to give them a visa to the united states. the state department proposed 1,000 visas. the president raised the number to 5,000. but the undersecretary asked jewish organizations please do not publicize this decision. nonetheless at a press conference, he was asked directly about this step. he equivocated and said the children were of no particular race or nationality and all of this was being done under regular immigration law and procedure. nonetheless there were articles published and the premier who decided he would only permit orphans to leave france beats children, their parents had been deported to the east and he wa

opposition calling for an end to the unrest germany has said that it wouldn't rule out sanctions while france blamed the deaths on the authorities excessive use of force or the u.s. calling the violence unacceptable and as artie's guy nature can reports outside involvement goes way beyond the statements demanding peace. from their podiums administration officials say it's up to the ukrainians to decide their future for the work that they do behind the scenes does not look like they want to leave it to the ukraine to decide moreover it seems washington does in one of the two the opposition decide on. in the leaked conversation between u.s. assistant secretary of state and the u.s. ambassador to ukraine and we're talking about who of the opposition leaders should be in the government and who should not here's a bit of that conversation. the producers are usually good complicated or charger i don't think leetch should go into the government i don't think it's necessary i don't think it's a good idea i think he is the guy who's got the economic experience the governing experience he's what he needs his creation tony burke on the outside he needs to be talkin

also the united states if i look at the last ten or even twenty years with a lot of regret i see that the even the so-called rich countries like germany france also california i named de are on the way down if i judge the situation correctly if i travel around in california i see poverty which i have never seen there in recent years if i travel through france paris down to mars it must say it is a frightening increase of poverty so that means the politicians make sure i'm in this mistakes. so do you think by curbing the immigration that would take care of the problem or at least partially. i strongly believe that if you have a control of immigration people who are responsible politicians who are responsible for a certain area for a certain area in africa for a certain area here in europe let's take switzerland you only can solve the problems in a positive good way if. these areas limited if as a politician you have to decide for the whole world if you have to decide for both garia and germany reimpose the same rules that gets difficult gets difficult that gets difficult if you have if you see greece if you see friends and they have such diff

or trying to establish closer ties. the ukrainians some lean west, some lean east, but the european union mediators on the ground from france, germany, and pole lank, have indeed, as you mentioned finished that meeting with president victor yanukovych, and have now moved back to talk with the opposition. >> phil, thank you very much. >>> the violence in the ukraine is up setting leaders in the u.s. as well. banning visas for 20 senior members of the ukrainian government. randall pinkston joining us live. >> yes, it may be symbolic at this point, but it's a ancation by the obama administration that is it ready to join forces with the european union to try to broker a peace agreement. there are thousands of americans who have ties to ukraine, and all are concerned about the violent confrontation. >> reporter: in addition to his duties as a priest, these days father devotes much of his time to watching the escalating violence in his troubled homeland. >> reporter: they are not afraid to die? >> yes. >> reporter: his worst moment so far came when police clashed with protesters. more than 25 were killed, more than 200 injured. >> it was

or bathroom. i'm forced to discriminate, and i cannot understand why. >> maastricht it not far from germany, luxembourg and france. thousands of foreigners make stops, many coming to the marijuana business mark has owned. it's called easy going. it's a laid-back place for a fix. 90% of his customers crossed the border too buy weed. now his coffee shop is closed. the city shut it down because he refused to honour the ban imposed by the mayor. "america tonight" requested an interview with the mayor, but he declined saying the law is under national review. a councilwoman did talk to us and explained why she's a supporter of the ban. >> the coffee shops were to provide the markets with small scale shops, not to supply netherlands, belgium, france, germany, to buy their products in the coffee shop. it was meant to the local market. it's too much for us to handle, so we had to take action. >> over the past couple of years, the number of foreign visitors tripled to three million. >> that, she says, causes crime and traffic jams. an influx of visitors is something denver mayor michael hancock wonders about. >> we are con

well we have already seen germany france and other countries are very strict on on those protesters and had it been happening somewhere in the united states of america for example or in the center of europe i think the protesters would be crushed very quickly because this is the. direct threat to the litter ship of those states and all those european countries we have seen the government did to protesters in athens and greece we have seen what the u.s. government and u.s. police did to occupy wall street protesters when they were dispersed with gas with rounds and in all that the police say in the u.s. for example they are authorized to use live rounds. against protesters which they already had a chance to to use in the past. alexandersson amount of. live from moscow alexander many thanks indeed for your time weapons shaded. washington was quick to respond to the violence in kiev turned to see new ukrainian officials accused of sparking the clashes on bond now from traveling to the u.s. brussels says it could follow the example from only reaction from america and europe has got to check our. president obama knows what the ukrainian leaders should do we are going t

mayhem the foreign ministers of france germany and poland are reportedly remaining in kiev to meet with president xi on a cause which. has more now on the reaction from europe or. the emergency meeting has been called here in brussels where the twenty eight four and a ministers of the new block will be meeting but they are waiting for their colleagues the a german a french and polish foreign ministers there were earlier reports that they had actually flown out and cancel the meeting because of security reasons. they had actually stayed and they had witnessed some of the chaos and violence that's been going on on the ground over there as far sasha's are concerned that is a main goal of the meeting here in brussels that they want to decide whether or not to go ahead with imposing sanctions on ukraine they they may include asset freezes or travel bans of certain individuals that they deem responsible for the violence that's going on the ground right now over there now the e.u. has refrained so far from doing that for making such a move but there is a growing consensus that sanctions are indeed coming off some of the diplomats and ministers have been asked whether

here to have these discussions notably absent, of course, the three ministers from germany, france and poland are in kiev or will have just left kiev, having met with opposition leaders or misyanukovych. they will be bringing to brussels the information gained at these meetings. >> what are the ukraineens saying about these possible sanctions? >> we have heard from the russian foreign ministry saying any program administered from brussels would be inappropriate and only add to the element of confrontation within the ukraine. that comes just days after russia's foreign minister put out an article in one of the leading dales in russia saying the blame lice squarely with brussels. >> phil, thank you very much. >> joining us to talk more about the situation in ukraine is judy dempsey, a long time journalist and senior associate at carney europe. joining us today from berlin, germany, thank you for talking with us. let's dig into this. a ceasefire was called last night, but we are hearing reports of gunfire. how are government forces treating any agreements and how much influence do opposition leaders really hav

or specter of various officials we have already heard expressions of the subject matter from. but also the european commission president and also various ever present from france and germany have already said that that indeed is something they're going to be looking at during the european union foreign ministers meeting which is going to take place on thursday. they've been accusations of the use of life munitions by both sides in the conflict protests is a well armed but it's unclear just where they source that firearms from they were also using grenades fireworks and most of cocktails against law and forces others through rocks will be baseball bats and metal rods at times were also the round transfer of police cordons let's not get so analysis from subject trip foreign affairs editor for the chronicles magazine list a trip which of course when the stand that the e.u. is talking about imposing sanctions on the authorities for actually to those who is responsible for violence in ukraine but can we expect them to be fagged can we expect them to single out who who is behind those protests who's behind the violence there. well absolutely not to because we have witnessed brazen h

or wide specter of various officials we have already heard expressions of the subject matter from. among all but also the european commission president and also the various ever present from france and germany have already said that that indeed is something they're going to be looking at during the european union foreign ministers meeting which is going to take place on thursday let's now look back at how the situation unfolded in kiev on tuesday when violence returned to the ukrainian capital first the opposition rounded the crowds and urged them to march on the parliament. trouble began one radical protest was broke through police lines and the situation escalated even faster when rioters tried to storm the office of ukraine's ruling party setting it on fire police struggled to contain the thousands of protesters throwing rocks and molotov cocktails some even using trucks to break through the security cordon three people were killed becoming the fast to victims of the street baden's which continued to escalate and less than two hours later a police officer died one person security forces. and while that rice has also spread to regional centers in western ukraine riot has have seized local