geronimo and poncho villa had been romanticized by hollywood.augustus india know and shea are icons that left us throughout the world. even osama bin laden was revered by significant proportion a significant portion of the islamic world despite the large number of muslims killed an al qaeda spat. despite this image of the third world battling the military is highly unlikely that history will be so kind to general men well and noriega. where is most of americans antagonist had admirable qualities whether sheer physical courage or commitment to some cause however misguided it is difficult to find any redeemable traits in noriega. shourd and cors and an alcoholic with a reputation for sexual violence. noriega was stuck with the silver k bettina or pineapple in reference to his acne scarred face. he seemed to elicit hatred and almost everyone he encountered. former assistant secretary of state elliott abrams recalled the dictator quote a remarkably ugly man history nature showed through. greasy and thoroughly offputting. colin powell recalled meetin

services committee and here to discuss and decide his new book "wanted dead or alive" manhunts from geronimo to bin laden." a recent review said accomplishing to contradictory feats a colorful accounts of each man high-end appeal to pay its venture story but it provides ample material material and it is bt without being ponder and the book deserves attention from the general public. [applause] >> they give for that kind introduction. it is great to see some plant-- trends here tonight in to be here as well i promise i will be brief but the scheduling conflict i cannot think of the more appropriate time the and the day after the tragic anniversary. out of curiosity how many people remember exactly they were his september 11, 2001? >> not surprising. but how many people remember where they were tuesday september 18, 2001? >> nobody raise their hand is also not surprising. it is a cliche to say it is in comparison in their mind that in comparison in september 18th, 2001 seems inconsequential. america was state of shock from the attacks killed nearly 3,000 people and desperate to regain some sma

>> i started as a lawyer working on the case but geronimo pratt, a black panther case. that ended up after 27 years to be proven. and we have learned that law enforcement' officers had good evidence or statutory evidence, let people commit perjury, said in the room and -- sat in the room to destroy evidence to convict someone who was innocent. and that is how i started my career as a lawyer. when i started that case, i began thinking this was a big conspiracy to frame this man. what i learned is -- and i discussed this with geronimo -- we are experiencing men and women who thought the end justified the means. they thought they had a bad man and it was ok to do anything necessary to convict him. as i look back on my career, present and future, i think we see that that is the concept that runs through police misconduct. i am sure there are officers who were just bad, let's say. i think officers see what they consider bad people, and they feel like they have to do what ever it takes to convict them. and i have seen it when i was a young lawyer, when we had narcotics teams,

what i learned is -- and i discussed this with geronimo -- we are experiencing men and women who thought the end justified the means. they thought they had a bad man and it was ok to do anything necessary to convict him. as i look back on my career, present and future, i think we see that that is the concept that runs through police misconduct. i am sure there are officers who were just bad, let's say. i think officers see what they consider bad people, and they feel like they have to do what ever it takes to convict them. and i have seen it when i was a young lawyer, when we had narcotics teams, we would get clients to said they arrested me with $20,000 and they said i only had $10,000. and we knew there were telling the truth. it i have seen it with law- enforcement officers in the case where a rogue cop shot a young girl, and the four other officers were all good men. remember -- you talk about misconduct, but primarily -- i want to get back to this -- most law enforcement people i have grown to know in my career are good and i think want to do the right thing. in this case, i am talk

>> i started as a lawyer working on the case but geronimo pratt, a black panther case. that ended up after 27 years to be proven. and we have learned that law enforcement' officers had good evidence or statutory evidence, let people commit perjury, said in the room and -- sat in the room to destroy evidence to convict someonwh

there is real value in showing a cotton hoodie between the men who went 200 miles into mexico after geronimo or 100 miles behind enemy lines in the philippines to capture adequate alto with the teams that went 180 miles into pakistan. but there is much more continuity and the roots of our military heritage and some of our pre-strategic problems are much deeper than we tend to think of in the moment today. and with that, thank you very much i guess. [applause] >> this event was hosted by tattered cover bookstore in denver. for more information visit tattered cover.com. >> you should always start with the assumption that when a politician or a ceo is named something, they're not telling you the truth. that they may be telling you the truth, but the burden should be on them to prove it. >> and now on booktv, richard tranter recounts the life of the fourth american president james madison. mr. brookhiser examines his influence in the u.s. constitution, collaboration and the federalist papers on the development of the republican party and is commanded troops during the war of 1812. it's a little