nobody liked gerry ford. the quality that we knew he had as, oprah winfrey called west michigan nice, was built into gerry ford. it was in the water he drank. it wasn't the religion that he had. it was not his wonderful parents. it was the fact he grew up in a community that cared. judging by the numbers here, people still care in our generation. we have to look at the generations that are still out there. i watch elizabeth holtzman, some things never change. it makes you want to drain the swamp even more. man who have here, is a meant something to all of us and the principles. as time to frank said, it might have cost him the 76 election. i was asked by ron white to tell you this quick story about when ford was in pittsburgh. the riots were beginning. the demonstrations at the white house, betty was home alone. he was in pittsburgh on a monday. i got a call from the white house dr. who said, can i talk to you? he says, the president wants you to do him a favor. he wants you to fly to washington and spend the

. >> he's in grand rabids, he's writing -- rapids, he's writing a book about gerry ford. >> i'm looking forward to seeing him. >> well, i am thrilled. >> thank you very much. just out. just literally just out. thank you, al. >> okay. i have all the others. >> okay. well, then let's talk -- >> [inaudible] good luck. >> let's have lunch next week. >> back here next week? >> yeah. in and out. well -- >> hello. how are are you? >> you're not giving up the world series for me, are you? >> no, no, absolutely not. >> [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] >> it's the yankees -- if the yankees were in the world series, he might have -- >> that's what i thought. >> we would like two books, if we could, and if you wouldn't mind -- [inaudible] >> do you want me to just sign one? >> just sign one, yes. you have no idea how valuable that's going to be. >> oh, well -- >> you know what? i'll sign -- >> that's what you tell me every couple of years. >> that's right. >> but do you, you don't want the date, just -- >> the date would be great, yeah. >> that's if you know the date. >> well, it's starting to