>> gerry goffin, charlie larkey, rick evers which is the one you'll talk about every now and then and yes. on your show you always say, have you ever been properly in love? every time. >> in your case it would be, how many dozen times have you been properly in love? did you marry every man you were properly in love with? >> no. the last two i didn't. >> if i could have trapped you on a dessert island with one man in your life you had a relationship with, who would it be? >> i don't know. i'm not with anybody now. that's kind of who i would be with is me. >> rick evers, he abused you and you talk very openly and directly about that in here. but you also make the point which i think many women say to themselves, if i ever got into that kind of abusive relationship i would be out, and you didn't. and you're very honest about that. tell me about the conflict that happens when you're strong about that and then it happens to you. >> the line is, i would never be with someone like that until i was. here's the more shocking point, i suppose. to me, it was shocking after the fact. i stayed. an

i want to add to your lovely introduction by saying that all those songs were co-written with gerry goffinery man is a better woman. the thing that fascinates me about this book is you've had these pivotal moments in your life and i suspect made you have a life richer than others. and i think the classic example is you were about to do "tapestry." there you were in california. everyone is going crazy for you, selling millions of albums. you suddenly think, no, i'm going to go to idaho. >> that was not right after "tapestry." >> when was that? >> it was 1976 when i started to seriously look to go to idaho. "tapestry" was 1971. my way of coping wit and having a life, i like that you twigged having a life. the fame was swirls around me. i was in laurel canyon. i was with charlie larky. my second husband, my bass player as well. i already had the two goffin daughters. i really centered myself in my family. i wasn't doing lots of interviews and going to lots of parties and doing whatever people who are famous are supposed to do. >> you didn't even go to the grammys to accept the awards for "tap