and hotel artists and scholars from across europe made their way to weimar can pay their respects to gerta when he celebrated his 80th birthday at the hotel elephant. later other famous people would check into the elephant including votto copious lionel finding her and ask when they came to weimar in 1919 and founded the bauhaus school. but those glory days were over by 1933 when hitler came to power weimar had long become a stage for the nazi party and the elephant was hitler's favorite place to stay in town. he ordered the hotel to be torn down and rebuilt. when it reopened in 1938 it was touted as the most modern hotel in europe. while the nazis were living it up in town tens of thousands of people were dying from hunger and exhaustion at the book involved concentration camp just outside weimar it's a difficult legacy for the hotel. but often the hotel deals with this openly and deliberately because that chapter is unfortunately post of our history. it's important for us to show that this hotel has always been an open meeting place here in the atrium with consciously hung pieces from hi

the problem is the holocaust happened while the germans are reading "gerta." and that's really the question, is why didn't reading "gerta" prevent the holocaust, right? and that's not how that question was framed in that book. so that's why i found that to be not entirely successful. >> and the one -- yes, i agree with everything that you said. and also think that it shows shades of gray that can be complicated for people to think, students in particular, to think about, right? so in what ways is the perpetrator in this film humanized, right? she's not one dimensional. she's not evil. she did evil things. she did horrible things, but she also is this person who loves and is loved in return. and so while agreeing that certainly parts of it are really problematic, i think there's something about the humanization of perpetrators. it makes it really hard to say, and i would never be that person. this is impossible. that's sort of one little comment. >> and the other thing i would say, and this gets to the point of the messiness when you get down to the granular le