gessie thompson, dr. debrady, thank you both for being with us this afternoon. >> thank you for having us and having this conversation. >> yeah. next on "here and now," the new stamp honoring award-winning author and poet maya angelou. stay with us. >> the new postage stamp honoring dr. maya angelou will be dedicated at the african burial ground in month. hosting the event, the ebony society of philatelic events and reflections, or esper. it's an organization that promotes the collecting of stamps that focus on people and events related to the african diaspora. elizabeth rankin-fulcher is a member of the board of esper, and she is joining us today. thank you so much for being with us. >> it's my joy. >> i -- stamp collecting. i always thought of it as a kid, but it is really a popular hobby >> absolutely. >> and you guys focus specifically on those stamps that relate to people of color, essentially. >> yes. about? >> oh, there are lots and lots of them. >> mm-hmm. >> we focus on not only the black heritag