no state should ever getittror . the question isn't whether slaves are voting. of course they aren't voting and married women aren't voting. rosemarie gave you a story about unmarried widows, but they can't vote easily because there's no secret ballot. if your husband and the laws can not voting your own interests will. it was unmarried women. the question isn't how much clout slaves are going to have but how much clout slave states will have. three-fifths you get more voting clout in the house of representatives and that's the constitution. not in the house of representatives. where else could you get credit? the electoral college. yes, they didn't believe in democracy and thought republics were different. baloney. i gave you arguments that it they were far more democratic than we've been taught and they believe in direct election of governors and direct election of the members of the house of representatives there is a balance between big and small zats. the big state guy always wins. we have three small state presidents, bill clinton, zachary taylor and frank