they are trying get out of the pink coloured getto. ghetto? >> a service job, all the jobs we can't outsource because they involve personal service, and they are disproportionately female. now her situation is worse than in my day because she's likely to graduate in big debt and make one or 2 million less over her lifetime to pay back the debt. i'm not trying to be discouraging, but to say this is real life, and we need - we don't have equal pay. >> why don't you take ownership of some gains. >> i do. i do. but when you ask me... >> when you dig into the statistics, women in their 20s that start out, according to pew research, make closer to $0.93 to the dollar, which is closer than they have before. there are these gains, some wonder why don't women like you that work so hart take a step -- hard take a step back and appreciate that? >> i think mainly we don't because they say the movement is over, as a way of getting rid of us. they are earning that in their 20s because they don't have children. having children is socially useful. we need to