the director is laszlo nemes, and saul is played by geza rohrig. >> this family exposes the crime, the of the nazis, which is deliberately picking and forcing juice to gurn juice. in other words. to burn juice. in other words the system works like this, how can the most juice be murdered by the least amount of germans being involved. so besides killing them, they also took their soul, their innocence away because, again, they forced them to be assisting in the extermination process. and that's th to me the most diabolical aspect of nazism, to make cane out of able. >> it's our most important step in the vision of the holocaust. i don't now whether we're ready for that new kind of vision, but i think we might be ready not to forget the theatrical versions of the holocaust. >> rose: and remember the horror? >> yeah, but my film is not about-- i mean, my film never shows the horror in an open way. it's always very restricted to the main character. it's very narrow in its focus. it leaves everything to-- mostly everything to the imagination of the viewer. so i think in the way that this fi