his father you may not know was one of the great scholars ghandi in-line ghandi it seems to me that he is engaged in his own experiments with truth, only was a bit more clothing and a touch more here. in his books and essays pico iyer ins is a question that most journalists i think failed to answer and is a very simple question, what is it like there? what is it really like their? and a journalist travel to afghanistan and iraq and to their stories and get home and their friends ask i have heard your story from iraq, what is it like there? pico iyer tells us what it is really like there. he gets to the essence of a place and he does that by reading and talking to people, always the right people it seems by doing research. most of all he does it by listening and observing. all of us listened and observe a course but pico iyer does a better than most of us. for some writers to see their objective is to know something, to know something new and to uncover and to share it with us. for pico iyer in his objective is to see something coming to look to the same places that perhaps we have all

i remember ghamdi pantages people -- ghandi and his people sacrificing hundreds of lines for machine guns to gain independence. i think -- the iconic photo of a young student being slain. i compare that to the point of a person being cradled in the arms of iran. those are the kinds of images that will turn not just heads of around the world, but also create a pressure on the brutal regime. any thoughts on that? guest: i agree with you that learning lessons on how to make non-violent protests more effective is key to the iranians being able to keep pressure on the regime's. the government is aware of the old tactics. this government has tried to preempt protests by filling public squares with police before demonstrators can get there. they are blocking communications. perhaps sit end in mosquessit- ins in m -- sit ins in mosques. the protesters have to figure out how to get one step ahead of the regime. i think you are right that this is like the civil rights movement. but the civil rights movement in the united states was much more open country which took years to reach fruition. hos

the palestinian side for any of this to move toward we need to see that next martin luther king or ghandi or even nelson mandela -- somebody who has a board looking a vision provide possibly future state of palestine is ever to apply because at this point we are looking at two factions that are at war with another that are based on the destruction of something rather than the creation of something. i don't think that hamas are fatah have put together a platform that talks about what future palestinian state would look like and i think that is one of the main reasons we see them and the position they are today. >> a question of their. >> just to step back for a second when you're discussing in the united states policy visavie fatah and propping them up, and as you know both under the previous administration and the current one, one of the episodes of success with policymakers pointing to is the mission a by lt. dave then improvise security training and coordination to the palestinian forces under president abbas and prime minister fayed. considering we are actively training 15 soon to be p