king had been inspired by mahatma ghandi, whose nonviolence resistance ended a century of british rulehis quote on a well-worn scrap of paper. >> ghandi speaks for us in the midst of death, life persists. in the midst of darkness, life persists. >> then king wrote -- >> we are today in the midst of death and darkness. we can strengthen life and live by our personal acts, by saying no to violence, by saying yes to life. >> that night, dr. king spoke to an overflow crowd at a black church. >> but he talked about death more than i ever heard him talk about it at any one given. >> i don't know what will happen now. we've got some difficult days ahead. it really doesn't matter with me now, because i've been to the mountain top. >> andrew young told me it was a speech dr. king often made when times were dangerous. >> because he'd done it before and we'd gone on to the next place, i wasn't really taking it serious. it was just a great speech. but i never thought i was listening to his last speech. >> so i'm happy tonight, i'm not worried about anything, i'm not fearing any man! mine eyes have

that's what happened to ghandi. here's karl rove proving that he's at the attack speed here.after this guy, cain, on fox news brought out his whiteboard to list all the reasons why cain isn't up to being president of the united states. let's listen to the inimitable, the unpleasant, perhaps, karl rove with part of his explanation. >> cain has had a number of misstatements. i mean, we've had abortion, we had earlier this year, that he department understand what the right of return was, the palestinian demand for the right of return. he recently said he didn't understand what neoconservatives were when it came to foreign policy. he had a rather odd answer on afghter policy,, i'll figure it out after i get into office. the whole effect of this is to create an image of him not being up to this task. and that's really deadly for a presidential candidate. >> so smitten with the tablets. what is this guy doing with the -- he's got this big like mosaic tablet here, and he's quoting from it. >>> d >> did you see the vein in his temple that seemed to be throbbing. this is driving him n

and understood but you know they faced with a similar circumstance as the past for example if they ghandi in india you know classically taking the poverty stricken indians who had no money but he figured out that if you could turn a boycott and do a strategic late you could take down an empire amar luther king similarly you boycott the bosses you change the dynamic of the political and economic what's going on in that region so that boycotters have no money then the psychopaths that run the show have no morals and i want some would also posit that they border on suicide banking where they are willing to kill themselves with their practices they can't even rely on them being rational in any sense of the word so what can the occupy movement do taking advantage of the economies of their size of their movement something along that boycott path that's going to push back in some meaningful way if you have any thoughts on this john i don't think we know that yet i mean one of the things that the occupy movement is is being wise and doing is not suddenly grabbing on to some ideological solution.

you can see mahatma ghandi is back in the 1920s, 30s, they're operating on the same principle. quite remarkable. i couldn't hope for a better example. guide he says, my reading of the quran has convinced me that the faces of islam is not violence but is unadulterated peace. which is exactly the same rentable that others were operating on also. it's quite remarkable that he took the step of trying to get his possible killer that some people want so badly, clemency. this is quite a remarkable moment to be talking about what i'm talking about, because just two months away, we're just two months away from the killing of osama bin laden. hopefully it's not the ending of al qaeda, debilitating of al qaeda, they have a new leader. but i would hope that his passing at age is literal and symbolic. at the same time that such an exciting time to be in because 2011 has been an incredibly momentous year for the exact opposite of the philosophy that osama bin laden was espousing. and that is nonviolence. if i speaking with you even late last year about pacifism, i would have to slay myself.

discussing the story he went on and compared obama or said that playing golf with obama would be like ghandi playing golf with hitler then e.s.p.n. kicked him off and now he's really angry and so he's released a new song getting back at fox who should i say wrong getting back and fox and and e.s.p.n. . but. you know. don't tread on me i just love got to be in every country it's my favorite you know ok so when you look at change it's also a very popular culture we've had this discussion you know on one hand there are a lot of people who go out there and say a lot of crazy stuff all the time and hank williams thing was by far not the worst of it but i wouldn't really say that fox news twisted his words i mean they just played exactly what he said on camera i mean i asked him what he thinks about president obama and he brought up the entire banner obama golfing incident entirely brought up there were there weren't you know there were saying at all and he is clearly under pens and he apologized but this song is not a man sorry. i'm a little bothered by all of this because in the beginning i said

difference this is an outlet of people coming together and working with inside with each other and ghandi once said i just want to bring up to the previous point that you know once they hit you let them hit you harder but once you're peaceful you're going to win over the public you're going to win over the people and that's what's happening right now people are being peaceful people are being nonviolent and they're winning the public over and there's nothing else to say i mean all you have to do it again is just look at the videos it's insane what's happening p. some people are just trying to get their message across and they're being beat beat by criminals thrown in jail for trying to express a genuine message certainly yesterday that the movement grew significantly with that addition of the unions what did you see i mean to what extent did that change what's going on with the union sort of joining on board. will occupy wall street is a very open movement it allows anybody to come down whether you're republican or democrat or socialist or end the fed or to come down to discuss political

>> indira ghandi gone wild. >> we like it. >> howard? >> potentially nathan.. >> mike is from boardwalk empire. >> andrea? >> i'm either sandra dee or betty draper or doris day but that era, the early '60s. >> the glasses and the bow give you away. >> lady gaga. >> come on, where's my meat dress? >> you wouldn't want to wear the meat dress although it could be preserved with the cool temperatures we have. >> i like the blonde look, andrea. mid-50s today. not a pretty day. tonight, we're in the 40s with isolated showers. more so in the mountains. tomorrow, a better day. breezy. 67. look at the rest of the week. finally, second half of the week and the weekend, yes, we get a break from all of the nastiness. >> sorry about the hair and the nose, howard. sky 9, 66 at route 234, the earlier accident has been cleared. look at what it left behind. we'll go to 270, two slowdowns route 80 to father hurley. and the outer loop slows down from 95 to georgia avenue here. about a 17-minute ride. >> don't know if you want to take financial advice from lady gaga. financial ma

. >> in a nutshell, kudos to the marines for channeling ghandi. my goodness here, that's the idea.e're trying to stay things, no matter how you feel about the protests, the fact is, there was no intent to use or threat to use violence, so the idea of using force against someone with no justification is unconscionable in any circumstance. this is across the board. >> and no soldier who serves the united states would ever presume to feel powerful because they were armed against someone who was not. >> absolutely. >> am i wrong -- go ahead, sorry. >> i was going to say, along that line, these guys, believe me, marines, i would not want to be -- have a marine upset with me, because frankly, with a weapon or not, they could kick, you know -- >> they're tough. >> so they were very sedate in this case, and this is what's wrong about it. you know, i could understand if there was a reaction to force, this is not the case here, though. >> let's talk about the war itself. and this is maybe an outrageous statement on my part, but i've heard hamid karzai say, if it came down to it, i would be w