way. >> ghannouchi i'm glad you raised because ghannouchi is a great example of the doublespeak and againou have to sort of a think as criteria for how you think judging these intellectuals and and and these ideologues and how they approach things and at the end of the day for ghannouchi what is he believing? does he believe in clerical rule or the sharia state were essentially these preordained clerics tell people i live their lives and is that consistent with any kind of former democracy and i would say in his view of the world no it is not so when we talk about democracy we are talking about something different. is basically how clerics are chosen within the organization and sort of how ruiz established. it is not true democracy opening up but on all these issues, i'm interested to hear what reuel has to say about this but there's a tension between the idea that these are some sort of detente with the egyptian mobile terry and islamists and a power-sharing arrangement i think is perhaps and i'm curious to hear what reuel has to say that perhaps one of the big problems we face in not op

way. >> ghannouchi i'm glad you raised because ghannouchi is a great example of the doublespeak and againyou have to sort of a think as criteria for how you think judging these intellectuals and and and these ideologues and how they approach things and at the end of the day for ghannouchi what is he believing? does he believe in clerical rule or the sharia state were essentially these preordained clerics tell people i live their lives and is that consistent with any kind of former democracy and i would say in his view of the world no it is not so when we talk about democracy we are talking about something different. is basically how clerics are chosen within the organization and sort of how ruiz established. it is not true democracy opening up but on all these issues, i'm interested to hear what reuel has to say about this but there's a tension between the idea that these are some sort of detente with the egyptian mobile terry and islamists and a power-sharing arrangement i think is perhaps and i'm curious to hear what reuel has to say that perhaps one of the big problems we face in not o

way. >> ghannouchi i'm glad you raised because ghannouchi is a great example of the doublespeak and againyou have to sort of a think as criteria for how you think judging these intellectuals and and and these ideologues and how they approach things and at the end of the day for ghannouchi what is he believing? does he believe in clerical rule or the sharia state were essentially these preordained clerics tell people i live their lives and is that consistent with any kind of former democracy and i would say in his view of the world no it is not so when we talk about democracy we are talking about something different. is basically how clerics are chosen within the organization and sort of how ruiz established. it is not true democracy opening up but on all these issues, i'm interested to hear what reuel has to say about this but there's a tension between the idea that these are some sort of detente with the egyptian mobile terry and islamists and a power-sharing arrangement i think is perhaps and i'm curious to hear what reuel has to say that perhaps one of the big problems we face in not o