let's speak to the director of the syrian network for human rights, fadel abdul ghany.uced those statistics, and he's been monitoring the fate of detained people in syria since the start of the civil war. we are so pleased to have you with us here on bbc news, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. when i read the words of forcibly detained, it is such an emotional phrase but can you explain to us exactly what that means? . ~ explain to us exactly what that means? ., ~ , ., ., ., means? thank you for having me. we have been _ means? thank you for having me. we have been working _ means? thank you for having me. we have been working on - means? thank you for having me. we have been working on this - we have been working on this file for 14 years in syria on a daily basis which means the party, the side, the authority arrested or kidnapped, the person denies they have it which transfers from arbitrary arrest to being enforced disappearance which means we do not know anything about him or his family or any lawyer, so no one knows anything about his fate, if he is ali

look, it was chaotic because of the afghan president ghani dissembling themselves when they had said they would not. i had met with ghani myself a week before he decided to up and leave, and there was no one left there. and yes, the the visions that we saw of people on the planes, et cetera. it was horrible. but the state department did a great job in getting 124,000 people out after that. you know, after he left. and so that's not talked about enough. and yes, we mourn and pray for the families that lost their loved ones, as we do for all 2400 over the 20 year period. and the key to yesterday, because no one says the evacuation was perfect. we wish that we could have done more. and the key to figure out how do we how do we prevent this from ever happening again is to look at the 20 year, make a 20 year assessment from four presidential, presidential administrations to see what went wrong, what led up to this? because it's just not the tail end is the result of what took place. it is all that led up to it, including the tail end. and so i think that if we're going to do right for the

maybe that's because president ghani, as you said, mr.resident, that that -- those are really the facts, and only until august 15th, the day that kabul fell, think about that, the day that kabul falls is the first time that ambassador wilson requested a neo, and by that time, sir, it was too late with. that, i recognize ms. dove. >> thank you, mr. chair, and thank you, secretary blinken, for gracing with your presence again. i have some questions about sudan, but because we have continued to talk about neo, i will also ask a question on this. so ambassador wilson testified to the committee during a transcribed interview about the specified reasoning for why he called the neo on august 15th, describing the situation that included thousands of fighters streaming directly into kabul, a flow that contradicted orders after assurances we had received and orders we believed had been given to stop by taliban senior leadership, the expected seizure of two prisons later that day and the release of thousands of inmates. talib fighters, isis fighters

and we were meeting with president ghani of afghanistan. and we had talked to some folks and president ghani was very vehement that he was not going to leave afghanistan. he was vehement that the afghan troops were there and he would stay there to all these members of congress. and to everyone that i talked to, from almost anywhere, was clear that that was his position. no one knew that one week later, not one month, one week later, he would get on a plane and get out and all the troops were gone. everybody at that moment in time was surprised. that's a fact. let me ask some yes or no questions real quick. because i believe that you're going to look at this whole thing you talk about. so, mr. secretary, president trump's doha deal explicitly committed to the united states to withdrawal all u.s. and allied troops, as well as contractors, by may 2021. yes or no? >> that's correct. >> but the speed of that withdrawal outside of an initial reduction to 8,600 troops was not specified by the deal, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> and despit

after president ghani's decision to flee afghanistan led to the rapid collapse of the afghan governmenty forces creating the chaos on the ground the men and women of the state department acted heroically alongside their military colleagues to conduct the largest area in left in u.s. history relocating more than 154,000 people. i believe the president biden made the right decision to and are 20 year war in afghanistan and not ask another generation of americans to make an ultimate sacrifice for a war that no longer has a purpose. no one here has argued that our withdrawal was perfect and i want to make clear i'm not saying any withdrawal has been perfect but we owe it to ourselves and our military diplomatic personnel on the front lines to learn from it and from those 20 years of war in which they served and incorporate those lessons of 20 years in the future. we do a disservice when we did not examine all of the facts. 800,000 served including the military personnel killed over the two decades of war. we should have conducted proper oversight of the policies made across not one administ

joining me now is fadel abdul—ghany, founder and head of the syrian network for human rights.ng me. welcome to bbc news. thank you for having me— for having me. how do you assess for _ for having me. how do you assess for days _ for having me. how do you assess for days on - for having me. how do you assess for days on how - for having me. how do you assess for days on how the for having me. how do you - assess for days on how the new authorities are dealing with issues ofjustice? we've been reporting a bank sure you've heard that there have been summary executions but there have also been calls for people not to take the law into their own hands. how do you assess the sofa? i own hands. how do you assess the sofa?— the sofa? i think the announcement - the sofa? i think the announcement was. the sofa? i think the - announcement was good. we the sofa? i think the _ announcement was good. we are monitoring the practice and that's what's important for us. the main thing is how this new authority 1525