i think one of the lesson of ben ghazi and may be one of the lessons we face in this broader region.point to bear in mind. blackwater acquired a terrible name throughout the region, we lost the capacity to i don't contractors the way we were using them in iraq. we will never have enough presence on our own to provide security just with our own capability. so you have to look either to the central authority which is really the most important issue, and/or you have to think about other ways that you can augment your presence to provide for security. that may be the new normal and that, i think, is going to laugh for some time to -- last for some time to come. >> ambassador, thanks for making time for me. >> no problem. >>> congress is on a break now. we know that. what happens when politicians are faced with a huge budget showdown upon return? and progress? the unemployment rate for the african-american community dropping to it's lowest level since president obama took office but it's still almost double that of the nation. those are just some of the topics for our agenda panel today.

consulate in ben ghazi, libya. two people charged including a prominent militia leader believed to be at the consulate during the the attack last september. four americans were killed. joining me is pete williams. what more can you tell us about the investigation and the charges specifically had. >> reporter: privately, we have been told charges have been filed in the u.s. in connection with these attacks. we don't know how many but several charges. the most prominent is the leader of a radical islamic group in libya called ansar al siree. witnesses say he was seen at the consulate. he said public in interviews he came there after the attack was over but other witnesses have said they saw him there during the attack. we don't believe he is under arrest. any arrest to happen in libya where it had to be the libyan authorities who do it but it's not like he's in an area that is easily accomplished. the second challenge if he is arrested the u.s. want him brought to the u.s. to stand trial and that will undoubtedly sta

i think jay leno asked the right question when he brought up ben ghazi. i think that looms large now over every decision that has to do with our installations overseas. the last thing that this white house wanted to have to deal with, i'm sure, is another attack on that scale. so, i mean, while al qaeda is definitely on the run, this is a reminder that, you know, while the president is trying to move on to other issues, whether it be housing policy, the environment, what have you, terrorism and the fight of it overseas is still a huge part of his portfolio. >> yeah, he answered a lot of questions. jay leno really playing the part of a reporter yesterday, including asking about the nsa programs. let me play that. >> we don't have a domestic spying program. what we do have are some mechanisms where we can track a phone number or an e-mail address that we know is connected to some sort of terrorist threat. and, you know, that information is useful. >> i did think it was interesting, lois, when jay leno asked if it was the nsa that got the intelligence about

consulate in ben ghazi, four state department officials will be back at work. he had that been on paid administrative leave for failures in the attack. a state department report harshly criticized theed t department in which the they worked because of the attack, cited a lack of cooperation and confusion over protection of the ben ghazi consulate. they'll be reassigned to new jobs. >> they witnessed history 500 years ago. a >> straightg ahead hear their unique stake on the march onn washington as the city preparesp for the anniversary celebration. first we check in with tucker. >> a little fog to the west. w should be in pretty good shape today. a warm and humid one with a scattered shower this afternoon. julie has your traffic after the break. ♪ [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be great if all devices had backup power? the chevrolet volt does. it's ingeniously designed to seamlessly switch from electricity to gas to extend your driving range. no wonder volt is america's best-selling plug-in. that's american ingenuity to find new roads. right now, get a 2013 chev

. >> it's been more than a year since the attack of den ghazi out anaheim angels. in the aftermath of the didn't, so out an imminent attack by closing its ambassadors and warning its citizens the united states may hope to avoid any possible repeat of these scenes. tom nick cain, al jazeera. >> more diplomatic efforts to try to controversial political crisis in egypt. secretary of state william burns is in cairo. burns is due meet the interim foreign minister. it comes as the gofer calls on protesters to lead a protest not city. >> in the meantime amnesty international is looking at allegations protesters were beaten and stabbed by morsi supporters during depen tration. they were told eight bodies have been found with signs of torture. >> this update from cairo. >> there have been denying all along and saying they have been you had a lot of people, private media every day you canning about such allegations everybody shoots everything so it's very difficult to keep things wrapped in this country. at the moment. i think you will have those who are against the muslim b

we did that to protect ben ghazi.zi became a death trap for our american ambassador and three other americans. the perpetrators still haven't been brought to justice. i don't think anyone can pinpoint what is obama's strategy is for u.s. policy and u.s. interest visa vie the middle east. >> he does have to walk a fine line. this is a delicate balance. egypt is america's strongest arab ally. it's a fine line to walk. what do you think? >> i think if you want to look at our foreign policy over the last five years, you could do that or you could be more intelligent about it and look at the way we've been handling foreign policies the last five decades. we tried a strategy of buying support. we tried a strategy putting in leaders who have become dictators in order to support u.s. interests. i strongly disagree with senator mccain. we did not lose our influence or credibility in egypt over the past couple of weeks. we lost it years ago as we continued to prop up mubarak and the egyptian people knew he was a dictator. that'

time ago, republican congressman ed royce said it was linked to al qaeda and what happened in ben ghazi the administration would not take any steps. >> like the attack on ben gasha, someone forgot to circle the calendar that it was 9/11 and we might want to be contingency plans in place. this time the intel steps are being taken. >> joining me is joel rubin. the threats, the jat chchatter. put this together for us. obviously this is significant for the state department to take this type of extraordinary step. >> yes, thomas, it is significant. shutting down an embassy does elevate the situation and makes people in the country recognize that there is a threat potentially that has been identified. it shows that the administration is taking extreme caution right now. as chairman rice said, there have been problems past in historically august in particular is the month where there is increasing chatter and intelligence community oftentimes will pick up more noise and we see that the administration is being vigilant in this case. >> when you talk about the chatter and august being that month

diplomatic post in a libyan city of ben ghazi, western countries have been on alert. >> we spoke to an expert in washington and he told us more about yemen increasingly becoming a terrorism hot spot. >> according to the little evidence released by the administration that, you know, these threats have to do with al qaeda and yemen and possibly maybe the corroboration of, you know, this intercepted information by the visit here in washington this past week by the president of yemen. so maybe he had some additional information to give credence to these rumored plans. no politician wants to be caught with an attack similar to what we have experienced in the past. this is a very serious step both, whether it's the closure of the embassies or the travel alert, as comprehensive as they both are. this is only the second time, actually, since october, 2011, that the u.s. does that. and it implies that there is a lot more than the usual chatter that has been intercepted. apparently, as has been described as kind of a very serious or significant threat stream, may be more specific than usual. so

lessons learned and make ghazi can be applied elsewhere. there is the national institutional level of civil society. it is going to be requiring more on the regional level that what is happening right now. there is no national coordination mechanism. if it is happening right now, it is happening through personal connections. i would also say that a key observation is frustration for grassroots shouldn't -- organizations that do not have english and their ability to provide proposals and make pitches to international communities. inhave to get more creative how we work around the language barrier issue. it is easier to go to this one if language is a barrier. engageg out how to everyone if we are building the institution, not building those easiest to access. orher geographically language. to move forward with a few recommendations that outline the organizational development side of things, we are at a point where training and workshops need to be applied. there needs to be a technical reach back that i was alluding to earlier. i can speak s

. >>> the justice department files the first criminal charges in the deadly ben ghazi attack. sealed charges have been filed against alleged militia leader. ahmed catalla. it is unclear. attention from the security photos at the mission. the men are thought to be members of catalla's militia. the attack left four americans dead, including ambassador chris even stevens. >>> tensions remain high in yemen, after another drone strike kills a suspected al qaeda fighter. it comes as more americans leave the country after the state department issues a terror warning. alfonso van marsh has the latest for wjz. >> reporter: security forces have their guard up after another suspected u.s. drone strike killed at least 7 al qaeda fighters. it is believed to be the fifth attack on yemen in less than two weeks they are backing the campaign to crush terrorist threats. >> this says yemen's authority foiled a plot to take over strategic ports in the country. >> reporter: yemen is the base for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. known as aqap. it is one of the most active and dangerous branches o

remember a year ago when he was so against being in charge against ben ghazi.you're right. he is challenging them but that's why you're seeing the clown car come out and adding all of these other candidates. >> if you were lindsey, do you do the -- do you start having as a backup plan the lisa murkowski comeback playbook? >> absolutely. >> he is unbeatable. the best thing that happens to him two people in the primary -- >> south carolina is a runoff state. >> ask david dewhurst what a runoff is like. >> that's true. >> steven star has a great new restaurant on 14th street. a french restaurant. i was there three times the last couple of weeks. i'll be there tonight. join me. >> i ate there tuesday night. >> did you like it? >> yes! what am i going to say? >> i'm going to pennsylvania for dinner with my wife and kids. >> where is your restaurant? >> almond cancer fund board of advisers. volunteer opportunities are available in d.c. and they are moving down here from the columbia, maryland, area. >> touch of gray made it to number nine on the billboard charts. nev

in a post ben ghazi world this is what they want, isn't it? >> i think so. we touted the fact we did a good job eliminating degrading al qaeda but that is only the core of al qaeda. at the end of the day because we have degrade the defendant so badly it is fragmented which means if we want to destroy it we have to do it in piecemeal fashion and that is more difficult. >> why don't we get more focused on yemen? we have had nothing but problems with that country. let's go over some of the issues with the plot originating including the underwear bombing plot of '0 9. we lost 17 americans in the "uss cole" bombing in 2000 and that happened when they went into a port there in yemen to refill. they have been a hot bed of terrorist activity for over a decade. why do we continue to kid ourselves it's not a bigger concerns? >> we are kidding ourselves. there is a political component to that and operational component to that. any time you attack an enemy in any country you need the assistance of the host country which is one of the reasons we are closing down the emba

you said on september 12, we will ring to justice the killers who attacked our people in a ghazi. where are they, sir? >> i also said we would get bin laden and we didn't get him for 11 months. we have informed the public of a sealed indictment. it is sealed for a reason. but we are intent on capturing those who carried out this attack. and we will stay on it until we get them. >> [indiscernible] >> i will leave it at that. but this remains a top priority for us. anybody who attacks americans, anybody who kills tragically for americans who are serving us inl do everything we can to get those who carried out those attacks. with respect to health care, i didn't simply choose to delay this on my own. is was in consultation -- this was in consultation with businesses all around the country, many of whom are supportive of the affordable care act and many of whom who are already providing of interest to their employees but were concerned about the operational details changing their hr operations because i have a lot of employees which could because they for them and suggesting that ther

they learned from ben ghazi and now are firming up the embassies. as far as the worldwide alert i think it's warranted in this situation. >> senator saxby chambliss, ranking member of the intel committee said the nsa learned of the threat but critics of the surveillance program say they have their doubts. >> if you look at the one that's most at issue here, the bulk metadata program there's no indication, unless i'm proved wrong later, that program which collects vast amounts of domestic data, telephone data, contributed to information about this particular plot. >> david ignatius, bring in here quickly, what are you hearing? >> well, i'm hearing from u.s. officials is first, this is al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, affiliate based in yemen, the affiliate that osama bin laden thought had the best chance of really being powerful and causing a long-term threat. the information is vague. it is from intercepts. although it's not, thank goodness, the meta data from the u.s. because there's no evidence of their being contact with somebody in the u.s. to

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lessons learned and make ghazi can be applied elsewhere. there is the national institutional level of civil society. it is going to be requiring more on the regional level that is what is happening right now. there is no national coordination mechanism. if it is happening right now, it is happening through personal connections. i would also say that a key observation is frustration for grassroots shouldn't -- organizations that do not have english and their ability to provide proposals and make pitches to international communities. we have to get more creative in how we work around the language barrier issue. it is easier to go to this one if language is a barrier. figuring out how to engage everyone if we are building the institution, not building those easiest to access. either geographically or language. to move forward with a few recommendations that outline the organizational development side of things, we are at a point where training and workshops need to be applied. there needs to be a technical reach back that i was alluding to ear

you've got the men be ghazi issue and irs and, of course, what's going on in syria as well.ward to the weekend. i know syria's going to be a hot topic for you over the course of the weekend and the show, chris. what can we look forward to there? >> well, we're going to be talking about syria and egypt, we've got two top congressional leaders to talk about it, bob corker, republican from tennessee, top republican on senate foreign relations as well as there you can see them, eliot engel, hop -- top democrat on foreign affairs. and the shocking murder in oklahoma, we'll talk to the governor of oklahoma, mary fallon. martha: chris, thank you. we will look forward to fox news sunday as all the always. gregg: breaking news out of spokane, washington, an arrest has been made in the beating death of that world world war ii veteran. springer in just a moment, he'll tell us about it. when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. two full servings of vegetables for a strong bag that grips the can... ♪ get glad

n example is women in ming ghazi decided to clean up the situation by bringing back at the traffic lightsing it to drivers -- that is one of the examples of creative working. here were also people who took are of cleaning up the mess in the public squares, bringing chairs and flowers so people could sit in them. volunteering. the evolution of civil society in a short timeframe has empowered the mission. it has led people to see it is not up to the government to do everything. this is a new culture. he people have started to say, it was done by the private sector, not the government. -- have really changed in many ways. in terms of numbers, cso's in benghazi, evan hundred 50. small city in the cornerstone, more than 50 members of the civil society organizations. talking about benghazi, we show how civil society mobilized and took the life of ambassador chris stevens, who was considered to be a champion of the libyan post. merican activist and civilians like condemned the attack. roups organizing -- a stronger movement in benghazi, as the counterparts. when they decided it should be cleanse

but i'm not going to sit here and tell you that the tragedy and that ghazi could've been avoided had we had this legislation. i think that that was a question that we did not understand in a situation that we were in and perhaps we should've made a decision to evacuate that post earlier. but we very much appreciate this legislation and it will help us in many ways and it will strengthen our capability to stay in place where the threats are greater. but i'm not going to talk about benghazi on the lack of this legislation. >> benghazi was a particular situation given the makeup and the particular situation. .. ifmy first hearing as a senator was the one with clinton. it was a memorable one. i'll never forget the first hearing. i reviewed the arb in advance of the hearing to prepare, and mr. chairman, i imagine you know this. there are so many recommendations you fix upon a couple. one was the recommendation about the expansion of the marine security guard program program. the second was the recommendation about training of our state department personnel. in the packet of materials we w

i have talked at length with people liking a bella in saudi arabia, or prince ghazi in jordan and others who engage in interfaith efforts, all of whom recognize that their religion, islam, has to a large measure been hijacked by people who have toreal depth with respect what faith in fact preaches, but who interpreted in ways that , andpeople to conflict even to violence. so it is not really enough just to talk about a better dialogue. i think we have to stand up and deliver one. and that is why i'm very proud today to announce the creation of the office of faith-based community initiatives here at the state department. its mission is as clear as it is compelling. it is to engage more closely with faith communities around the world with the belief that we need to partner with them to solve global challenges, that there is an enormous partnership i believe there for the asking. we already know that have a number of leaders here at the state department that work on issues related to religion, including our ambassador at large for international religious freedom. i want to say that i have g

but i'm not going to sit here and tell you that the tragedy and that ghazi could've been avoided had we had this legislation. i think that that was a question that we did not understand in a situation that we were in and perhaps we should've made a decision to evacuate that post earlier. but we very much appreciate this legislation and it will help us in many ways and it will strengthen our capability to stay in place where the threats are greater. but i'm not going to talk about benghazi on the lack of this legislation. >> benghazi was a particular situation given the makeup and the particular situation. .. ifmy first hearing as a senator was the one with clinton. it was a memorable one. i'll never forget the first hearing. i reviewed the arb in advance of the hearing to prepare, and mr. chairman, i imagine you know this. there are so many recommendations you fix upon a couple. one was the recommendation about the expansion of the marine security guard program program. the second was the recommendation about training of our state department personnel. in the packet of materials we w

baltic men the administration announced with great fanfare had been indicted a year later for ben ghaziwant to be able to take him somewhere that is not in the united states where i know he can be safeguarded for trial. the terrible thing about this indictment is that we don't have him and now that we have indicted him we are not likely to get him unless he has an unfortunate traffic accident in libya, which could happen. but these are the problems with the way in which the president has adopted, has approached national security. it is as pete king says schizophrenic. finally i'm skeptical because i know firsthand the enormous power of the government. when it turns and focuses on an individual. and i'm not speaking of having to go to jail to protect a source. i'm speaking of the search and the subpoena and the ultimate delivery of my telephone records shortly after i got out of jail in connection with another case that the government was investigating. i know what it feels like to have everything looked at. and i don't think that i posed any kind of threat to national security. so, fina

you know, i think the important point there, this is right after bicep ghazi -- benghazi, i was askedthat question. i mean, in the intelligence commitment, and i think i can speak for all of the analyst that were working on this, we proceeded on the assumption it was a terrorist attack from the beginning. i mean, you had a mortar attack, a pretty proficient mortar attack that killed americans at a government facility be in benghazi. and so they clearly were targeting our presence there. it was violet, it resulted in death. there are a number of legal definitions of terrorism, but really the practical, common sense view that i think we all proceeded on was this was a terrorist attack. what that doesn't answer is a whole bunch of other questions that were more complicated; how coordinated was it, who was behind it? and those were questions that a we were still struggling with and to a certain extent we're still struggling with to this day because that picture was unclear as it is in some ways now. it wasn't particularly coordinated, it hadn't been planned for very long if more than a fe