ghosh, if we hadn't had those programs where would we be as a perspective. what do you think about it generically? >> i think the notion more services is a magnet for others to come and stay. it's an empirical stamp. we continent have any data to support it. what we do know is that 40% of our folks didn't become homeless here. i think it's worth a dialogue, something that may be controversial. bevan mentioned the woman from ohio who had a felony and axon get into housing here. it begs the discussion, consideration of prioritization around our resource he. we do have limited resources. we can't serve all 64% in our system either in our street or house iftion, transitional housing much like the strategy we had under the homeless plan we folk on resources for those who are most acutely in need. those who go to the emergency room, the thickest. long-term stelter stayers. we've gotten away from that a little bit. folks who are very, very sick and folks who have been here awhile. that was what the chronic plan attempted to do from just focusing on the chronically

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