griff: do you agree, giancarlo?ative-leaning court now, so i'm not sure that would be the outcome most would expect. >> no, i think quite the opposite, the supreme court will, one way or another, end affirmative action either on the basis of the plain text or that it violates equal protection which is to say you may not discriminate on the basis of race. like chief justice roberts said, we didn't fight a civil war over oboe players. griff: let's stay on college campuses and talk about student loans. how do you think that is going to come out? this is really a case that many are watching, particularly for those who have student loan debt. robert? >> well, you have two questions in controversy here. question one is whether or not the states attorneys general who brought these suits on behalf of at least six separate a states have standing, whether or not they have any injury or any cause of action here and whether or not this is a case in controversy between the borrowers themself and the federal government and whethe