in charm of the second jumper -- charge of the second jumper or all eight or 16, which we call the gic. jumper in charge. doesn't matter if you're 20 and i'm 35. i'll follow what you say. you're here for a reason youch passed the program and you're going to make a good decision. so that's a pretty cool thing to jump out and have rookie command a fire and to see the bases following the command. that's how we operate. and back then you did the door be the same protocol. >> squad boss. >> we have squad bosses, too. the protocol now, first jumper on the plane is jumper in charge. he is the command -- itch it's a bigger fire, now, and we're 16 on the ground, we'll break off to squad bostons, lead crews are in charge of the jumpers so you can do your job, because now you have a lot on your plate. so we have somewhat of a command in there. very -- i come from a county/city. i was like, who this captain and the chief? they're like, no. not here. >> many years ago i lived in alaska and was part of a volunteer fire department, and we were called into the mountains, if you will, and we had a old