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gideon? you wrote a dissertation about the military strategy, a nd thee is a long debate about this from world war ii. what can the air power achieve? >> unless you are prepared to go in much, much bigr than we have thus far or plan to, no. because you have to pin it down and then the take the ground with the ground troops. i agree with what dani said, but to be criticized for not being having no strategy, this problem cannot be solved absent a much larger and nastier intervention which i don't believe makes sense, because it is not worth for it the u.s. interests, and while i agree with the criticisms of the administration, i wish they would back out and not talk so big, so they would ooeither bac up the big intervention on the ground. >> you agree? >> yes f anything that we should have learned from afghanistan and iraq, we don't have the staying power and the resources and the patience to produce a particular political outcome on the ground in any part of that world. we can't gets a saud ou

senior editor for the news website, gideon litchfield.nue. >> gideon asked what our history was. i said we're really, really good friends. >> let me try to put joe's question differently. or at least the end of your debate here so we can put a period at the end of the sentence and bring more news into it since we're at the top of the hour. >> okay. >> is it okay to question at this point the world health organization as well as american health officials given what has happened in dallas, given what has happened around the world, given that there was a slow response, given that there have been so many deaths and ebola, it has come to the united states, now at least in two cases? >> mika, i first of all, let's be clear, i started my career as a journalist. i was an investigative reporter. i believe strongly that questions should be asked, need to be asked, in all situations. that's part of what makes our system work. in this case, the question is not whether we're asking the right questions, but whether we're going to accept answers on fund

the court used the case of earl gideon, a drifter with a long criminal record, to announce a fundamental right to a lawyer in all criminal cases, at state expense if necessary and the case of ernesto miranda, a serial rapist, to require police inform suspects of those rights, along with the right to remain silent. attorneys for the state of arkansas declined our request for an interview, as did corrections officials. nor would they allow us any access to the inmate, gregory holt. holt's case has generated considerable support from groups that have long been at war on church-state issues. more than a dozen friend of the court briefs, representing nearly a hundred organizations, have been filed in holt's behalf, but only one in support of arkansas, filed on behalf of fifteen state, saying courts should defer to corrections officials on such matters. after his arrest and incarceration, holt continued to write threatening letters from prison. "death to america," he wrote in one letter, describing himself as an "american taliban" in another. >> if you threaten america, you will find no safe h

pearlina was led away with no one to look after her, but gideon klekleh was part of the ambulance team that day, and he couldn't forget the look on her face. >> nobody to take care of her. >> reporter: nobody wanted her because of the stigma. >> nobody wanted her. she was left alone crying in the street. it was very pitiful. nobody would take care of her. so i myself felt sorry for her and i almost cried. >> klekleh decided to foster pearlina at his village home just outside monrovia. >> reporter: you're going to love her. >> i love her. i love her. >> pelley: and debora patta joins us tonight from johannesburg. debora, if the children aren't sick after the 21-day incubation period for the virus, what happens to them then? >> reporter: there's stale lingering stigma surrounding these children even after the 21-day incubation period. many of them remain in these care centers, which do their best to find family members or place them in loving home, but they're having mixed success because there is still a lot of fear surrounding children orphaned by ebola. >> pelley: debora patta reporti

gideon shine is an elder care advocate. he says, mistakes like this can be he can treatmently difficult for seniors to rectify on their own. >> it is pretty complicated. >> reporter: the social security administration says it's complicated for a reason. in a statement, the agency said "social security requires proof of identification to protect people against potential fraud and id theft". >> social security is our everything. if that gets somehow misused, we're in terrible trouble. so they're very careful. and i do understand that. >> reporter: the social security administration in this case wouldn't say whether the error was caused by someone keying in the wrong data or if incorrect information was supplied by an outside source. fortunately social security took immediate steps to correct the records. reporting for three on your side i'm jim donovan. >> "eyewitness news" in center city philadelphia tonight where 1650 arch in the pink. the pink lights on this building and buildings across the air are reminder for women to s

gideon, which news outlet do you work for? it's two sentences about a disturbed girl.entences about a burglary. you know i was telling the truth about the president. i can help you if you let me. (knocks on door) hello. quinn, who's this? the reporter from the hospital.

cheering and jeering and this is important and it's great in the end of the day thank heavens for the gideon of the bible. i can read that for a while and i was ready to go to sleep. it's a marvelous experience particularly if you don't spend a lot of time worrying about the attacks would come your way. i think it's harder in your family but frankly you are in it because you care about this country desperately care about american if you're worried about what people say you shouldn't be in the race. paul. >> you have to have thick skin but you don't have an permeable skin. don't let it get to you and if you believe when what you are doing just go for it and don't worry about the rest. >> how about your family's? >> my kids are pretty young and everyone treated them well. the media treated him well and the obama campaign they were all great. my wife doesn't like the criticism i get but she also learned how to grow thick skin as well. both of our wives are strong women. they are very smart intelligent and strong women who understood the stakes of the country. >> this is interesting. do you thin

this is important, this is great and at the end of the day thank heavens for the gideon and bibles, i could read that for a while and i was ready to go to sleep. it is a marvelous experience particularly if you don't spend a lot of time worrying about the attacks the come your way. it is carter on your family but you are in it because you care about this country, desperately care about america and if you worry what people say i you shouldn't get in the race. >> you have to have thick skin but not in permeable skin, don't let it change the you are, don't let it get to you and if you believe in what you are doing, don't do it and don't worry about the rest. >> how about your families? >> they adjusted. my kids were pretty young and everyone treated them well. the media treated them well. the obama campaign. it was respected. my wife doesn't like the criticism i get but she also learned how to grow a thick skin as well and both our wives are strong women, smart, intelligent, strong women who understood the states of the country and they were able to see it through as well. >> this is int

yeah, well i think the real problem lies in the fact that there, through case law, due process has gideon v. wainwright. if you're a criminal defendant you're entitled to a lawyer at no expense to yourself. the theory that in civil cases such as immigration cases you're not entitled to a free lawyer is that, you're not facing imprisonment. and that the threat of imprisonment is triggers the right to an attorney. a free attorney. if you can't afford one. but, obviously, whoever framed that argument wasn't thinking about the consequences of immigration law which can very much result in possibly deportation. now is deportation as bad as imprison meant? yes. it is. it is possibly much worse. and i think that, unfortunately this distinction in the law still exists. i do hope that with, that the law that can move forward to deal with this very, very harsh situation where children are not guaranteed a right to an attorney and immigration court to encompass the right to counsel for children by the government. i'm hoping that the situations like this, which are very, you know, which appeal to a br

cheering and jeering and this is important and it's great in the end of the day thank heavens for the gideon of the bible. i can read that for a while and i was ready to go to sleep. it's a marvelous experience particularly if you don't spend a lot of time worrying about the attacks would come your way. i think it's harder in your family but frankly you are in it because you care about this country desperately care about american if you're worried about what people say you shouldn't be in the race. paul. >> you have to have thick skin but you don't have an permeable skin. don't let it get to you and if you believe when what you are doing just go for it and don't worry about the rest. >> how about your family's? >> my kids are pretty young and everyone treated them well. the media treated him well and the obama campaign they were all great. my wife doesn't like the criticism i get but she also learned how to grow thick skin as well. both of our wives are strong women. they are very smart intelligent and strong women who understood the stakes of the country. >> this is interesting. do you thin