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let me toss it over to mayor giles. thank you and i look forward to the discussion. >> thank you. i think we're all struggling to figure out what a u.s. conference of mayors will feel like without eric garcetti in the room. you are so gracious and bipartisan. i think you made us all feel like angelenos every time we come to one of these meetings, and i am sure the entire country of india and the continent of asia will have a similar affection for you. we're very excited for our country and for -- to see your success in india. i have been looking forward to this meeting for months. as it has progressed, it has become clear to me that mayors are specialists at putting 20 pounds of flour into a ten-pound sack. if you look at the agenda for this meeting, the issues that are on top of the agenda for each of our communities are very much reflected in this meeting. we will talk about refugee resettlement. who has not been pondering on that issue mightily during the past few weeks and months? who has not been fielding question after question as to how this will be impacting our local situ
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our next guest is cure giles is a russia expert at the foreign policy in tank chatham house. thank you for joining us here. we're seeing the bombs now falling on civilian targets that's been going on throughout this 4 week war. so far, there is concern putin will resort to tactic similar to what he employed in chechnya. how can that war help us predict what he might do here in ukraine as he's not necessarily making the gains on the battle ground that he had hope for? well concerned that he may resort to doing this is a strange way to put it because that is exactly what has been happening since day 5 of this war. it wasn't right from the beginning because let's not to get in the very early stages. russia thought it good when quickly and easily without even a fight, because they assumed believing their own propaganda that ukraine was a pushover, and it would be a liberation of the ukrainian people from this imaginary fashion, the band that was governance. but instead, as soon as russia realized it was not going to be able to win cleverly and not going to be able to win through
our next guest is cure giles is a russia expert at the foreign policy in tank chatham house. thank you for joining us here. we're seeing the bombs now falling on civilian targets that's been going on throughout this 4 week war. so far, there is concern putin will resort to tactic similar to what he employed in chechnya. how can that war help us predict what he might do here in ukraine as he's not necessarily making the gains on the battle ground that he had hope for? well concerned that he may...
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here, giles, a senior consulting fellow of the russia and eurasia program at chatham house. thank you very much. thank you. that was the day as ever the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter. i dw news, i'm adequate dawson on behalf of both of our producers, andrew shale, and jared read. thanks for being with us. bye for now. with, [000:00:00;00] with, with to the point. strong opinion, clear positions, international perspectives. a u. s. president who originally wanted to take care of the home front, travels to europe, looking to shore up the united front, with e u. n. nato allies biden versus pu team can be us stop the war and ukraine to the point o. d. w with the destruction of a nation. you, ron. mm. if you remove a regime, something needs to be created in its place. otherwise, a vacuum is created and that is usually filled with nefarious forces. but the rise of ins, evil approached, put forth a part of our series in 45 minutes, d w. o. so did in the right wing extremists, i suggested again world might be in coping late and burned in south africa. peop
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we already gave money in donation one giles and yes, now we have consulted again and we said that because we have an upper floor with a guest room and a private bathroom. we were happy to make this available. stella the need is so great and seeing this people its heart rending. hudson real blake. i'm good at me. maybe we'll be there one day and we'll need a hand and someone will help us. you have to stick together being on. i'm with autism, hired for germany. bear, lynn has been at the face of this. exit is no official say they're running out of space. the mayor says, no one can know how many will come if wilson and as we knew on the 1st day when the attacks began, that we would have a very large movement of refugees as feel that many people would also arrive here in berlin. we cannot yet see for sure how many the well be high does not need to have that 5 extra accommodation centers will be set up in the capital. but officials are calling on the federal government to help transfer refugees to other parts of the country. you're watching d. w need side from the lead, the ground for the late
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tom giles, thank you for those updates. president biden traveling to europe next week for face-to-face talks with european leaders to address russia's invasion of ukraine. >> the president will travel to brussels, belgium later this month, where he will join in extorting nato summit on march -- join an extraordinary nato summit on march 24 in response to russia's unjustified attack on ukraine and to reaffirm our commitment to our nato allies. emily: president biden also attending a european council summit where there are efforts to impose sanctions and further humanitarian aid. our annmarie hordern with us now from washington. tell us what we know about the president's trip and what kind of impact that could have. annmarie: jen psaki mentioned the president is a firm believer in face to face clemency. throughout this entire process, whether sharing intelligence with nato allies or making sure the u.s. was in lockstep with european leaders when it comes to harsh sanction packages they put on russia, the president always want
tom giles, thank you for those updates. president biden traveling to europe next week for face-to-face talks with european leaders to address russia's invasion of ukraine. >> the president will travel to brussels, belgium later this month, where he will join in extorting nato summit on march -- join an extraordinary nato summit on march 24 in response to russia's unjustified attack on ukraine and to reaffirm our commitment to our nato allies. emily: president biden also attending a...
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here, giles, that senior consulting fellow with the russian eurasia program at chatham. how sir, sir? thank you so much for speaking to us for sharing your expertise or with a thank you. well, the u. s. is piling more pressure on rushes. billionaire oligarchs, president joe biden says a raft of new sanctions will target many of russia's wealthiest individuals, a group that he calls putins, cronies. today, men out, you know, we're adding dozens of names lose, including one of russia's role. he's billionaires and i'm danny, and travel to america. my morgan, 50 russian oligarchs, their families and their close associates. well, our white house correspondent, kimberly how can joins us alive from outside the white house. so 1st of all, kimberly tell us a little bit more about the sanctions that were only announced a about an hour, an hour and a half ago. yeah. all to give you a sense of these sanctions, they really are designed and done and coordination with european allies to force latimer putin to really reconsider the invasion that he lodged into ukraine last week. and thi
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[applause] so, let me toss it over to mayor giles. mayor giles: thank you. we are struggling with trying to figure out what a convention with people like without you. you are so gracious, and so bipartisan, and i think you made us all feel like angelenos every time we come. i am sure the entire country of india if not the continent of asia will soon have a similar affection for you and so we are very excited and excited for our country. i have been looking forward to this meeting for months, and it has progressed, it has become clear to me that mayors are special instead fitting 20 pounds of flour into a 10 pounds sack. if you look at the agenda and the issues on the top of the agenda for each community, they are reflected in this meeting. we will talk about refugee resettlement. who has not been pondering that issue mightily over the past few weeks and months, and fielding question after question as to how this will impact our local situations? customs and border control, as a border state mayor, this is what i will be talking about when i go back home. the
[applause] so, let me toss it over to mayor giles. mayor giles: thank you. we are struggling with trying to figure out what a convention with people like without you. you are so gracious, and so bipartisan, and i think you made us all feel like angelenos every time we come. i am sure the entire country of india if not the continent of asia will soon have a similar affection for you and so we are very excited and excited for our country. i have been looking forward to this meeting for months,...
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well, let's take a closer look at the conflict in ukraine now with care. giles from the conflict studies research center in london is also the author of the research paper. what deters russia is? joining us from northamptonshire in the u. k. very good to have you with a sir and al jazeera. thank you very much. i want to talk to you about this search cease fire with regards to the humanitarian corridors that had been set up to cease fire appears to have collapsed. why do you think it collapse so quickly and should we be surprised given the circumstances? well, absolutely, we should not be surprised because anybody who has been watching russia at war in ukraine and in serial over the course of the last 8 years, will immediately have been suspicious when they are the words, humanitarian corridor and sci fi. because russia has repeated a very familiar script, it has set these up and enticed people into leaving the city into evacuating through what was supposed to be a safe corridor. and then tried to shell them in order to bottleneck as many people as possible into an area that was going to
well, let's take a closer look at the conflict in ukraine now with care. giles from the conflict studies research center in london is also the author of the research paper. what deters russia is? joining us from northamptonshire in the u. k. very good to have you with a sir and al jazeera. thank you very much. i want to talk to you about this search cease fire with regards to the humanitarian corridors that had been set up to cease fire appears to have collapsed. why do you think it collapse so...
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this was jammed the twelveth to giles on those syllable that go black go with movements and gestures. the women express their pain and anger coil. it's difficult to put the trauma to words and for some migrant language barriers, make it impossible. we will most have african root did on others come from asia for the middle east. is that oh, wow. the french health ministry estimate that 125000 women in france have undergone f g m. role naturally kanga is one of them all like marie claire. the 3rd year old comes from ivory coast one in 3 women there share the same thing. natalie loves books. in 2017, she came to poor dough to study french literature. in summer she did her masters. she wants to live in broad and life far from the traditions of her homeland. she was subject to f g m 20 years ago, but she still suffers from the physical and psychological consequences to this very day or so. she said it's a couple of can't forget to godaddy. it's a true mother who went to your whole life good might charge a flat. why these are you leave home early one morning with your mum what you see your
this was jammed the twelveth to giles on those syllable that go black go with movements and gestures. the women express their pain and anger coil. it's difficult to put the trauma to words and for some migrant language barriers, make it impossible. we will most have african root did on others come from asia for the middle east. is that oh, wow. the french health ministry estimate that 125000 women in france have undergone f g m. role naturally kanga is one of them all like marie claire. the 3rd...
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we already gave money in donation giles and yes, now we have consulted again and we said that because we have an upper floor with a guest room and a private bathroom. we were happy to make this available. stella the need is so great and seeing this people its heart rending, had some real late am. he doesn't, maybe we'll be there one day and we'll need a hand and someone will help us. you have to stick together. being on, i'm with autism, hired for germany, bear, lynn has been at the face of this exodus, no official shadow running out of space. the mayor says, no one can know how many will come here. wilson. and as we knew on the 1st day when the attacks began, that we would have a very large movement of refugees as feel that many people would also arrive here in berlin. we cannot yet see for sure how many the will be high does not need to have that 5 extra accommodation centers will be set up in the capital. but officials are calling on the federal government to help transfer refugees to other parts of the country. the u. k government has stopped the sale of premier lee club . chelsea
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i walked into the acorn housing facility located in washington, dc with my colleague, hannah giles. i played the role of a pimp with the intention of running for congress. hannah played the role of a prostitute. okay. so what's the big deal with eric prince richard? sudden and this new and improved project veritas. well, it reflects a larger problem of national security officials meddling in us media and politics. let's go back to the 2016 election. sorry in advance. former high ranking intelligence officials like sci director, john brennan and others use table news post to spread lies about trump. we don't want the cia on cable use shows. it's bad enough there in the middle east, latin america, africa, central asia. okay. we don't have time for this list. the point is we can have our national security establishment attempting to sway domestic politics the lies they were peddling, grew out of the fraudulent steel dossier, a document full of damming, but made up details about trump name for its author, christopher steele, the former, and my 6 by then there was the case of hunter bide
i walked into the acorn housing facility located in washington, dc with my colleague, hannah giles. i played the role of a pimp with the intention of running for congress. hannah played the role of a prostitute. okay. so what's the big deal with eric prince richard? sudden and this new and improved project veritas. well, it reflects a larger problem of national security officials meddling in us media and politics. let's go back to the 2016 election. sorry in advance. former high ranking...
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with my colleague, hannah giles. i played the role of a pimp with the intention of running for congress. hannah played the role of a prostitute. okay. so what's the big deal with eric prince richard sadden and this new and improved project veritas? well, it reflects a larger problem of national security officials meddling in us media and politics. let's go back to the 2016 election. sorry in advance. former high ranking intelligence officials like sci director, john brennan and others use table news post to spread lies about trump. we don't want the cia on cable use shows. it's bad enough there in the middle east, latin america, africa, central asia. okay. we don't have time for this list. the point is we can have our national security establishment attempting to sway domestic politics the lies they were paddling, grew out of the fraudulent steel dossier, a document full of damming, but made up details about trump name for its author, christopher steele, the former, and my 6 by then there was the case of hunter biden
with my colleague, hannah giles. i played the role of a pimp with the intention of running for congress. hannah played the role of a prostitute. okay. so what's the big deal with eric prince richard sadden and this new and improved project veritas? well, it reflects a larger problem of national security officials meddling in us media and politics. let's go back to the 2016 election. sorry in advance. former high ranking intelligence officials like sci director, john brennan and others use table...
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outgoing president moon jane was to grant a pattern to his predecessor as rob mcbride reports she was giles of 5 years ago. for corruption remains influential in south korean politics. in this well to do suburb of the southeastern city of dago, there is a buzz of excitement at the prospect of a new neighbor. former conservative president park yawn. hey to you are the daughter of strong man president. hark jung, he, she is considered to be political royalty why by supporters who are already being drawn to her home, even though she is yet to move in. well now grandmother and i hope she lives healthy and well for the rest of her life. daniel walton, i hope she prays for the development and stability of the country and she inspires the people with extra security measures being added to the new house park will soon be exchanging one set of bars for another. she was forced out of power by mass street demonstrations during a corruption scandal that led to her impeachment and then imprisonment. given a presidential pardon? she is now being treated in hospital for chronic back pain, 5 years on from
outgoing president moon jane was to grant a pattern to his predecessor as rob mcbride reports she was giles of 5 years ago. for corruption remains influential in south korean politics. in this well to do suburb of the southeastern city of dago, there is a buzz of excitement at the prospect of a new neighbor. former conservative president park yawn. hey to you are the daughter of strong man president. hark jung, he, she is considered to be political royalty why by supporters who are already...
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the humiliating ashes defeat in australia earlier this winter, which saw the departures of ashley gilesompted questions overjoe root�*s captaincy. the players, though, are determined to put things right. here's our sports correspondentjoe wilson. in a world in turmoil, what place for sport? it can display the best of human endeavour. it didn't really in australia. after the ashes, england's cricketers are in antigua working up from rock bottom. we want to restore what happened in australia, but at the same time we really came here and we've almost just wiped the slate clean because we can't live in the past. ah, but it is tempting to revel in history when this island produced the world's best ever batter — there's no debate about it here. commentator: he has finished it off nicely with a six. _ we lost shane warne at 52. give thanks that sir viv richards has reached 70. he was inspired by west indies identity, by black identity, and he still is. we, as a people, have given this world a lot. we have given this world a lot. our faith is strong about that. maybe that's why some folks will
the humiliating ashes defeat in australia earlier this winter, which saw the departures of ashley gilesompted questions overjoe root�*s captaincy. the players, though, are determined to put things right. here's our sports correspondentjoe wilson. in a world in turmoil, what place for sport? it can display the best of human endeavour. it didn't really in australia. after the ashes, england's cricketers are in antigua working up from rock bottom. we want to restore what happened in australia,...
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i want to stick with the selloff across chinese stocks and bring in bloomberg executive editor tom giles. some folks comparing the selloff to the 2008 financial crisis. could it get that bad? tom: we are seeing the conditions for a calamity in a lot of these shares. it does not look good. it is coming from every side. you are seeing it first and foremost geo-with eakly. how far will china go in supporting russia? the u.s. is sending a signal it is concerned about china doing so in which case the u.s. could be in line for sanctions against chinese companies. that is a major concern for investors in chinese securities. what happens if you start to see higher tariffs, other sanctions that impose limits on our ability to import? in the technology sector, we imported $133 billion in high-tech exports from china in 2020. you started to see barriers to that. you are seeing major disruptions to u.s. companies, major halt to the flow of goods along the supply chain. that is one of several factors we are looking at. emily: we are seeing covid induced lockdowns across the country. edition jen in pa
i want to stick with the selloff across chinese stocks and bring in bloomberg executive editor tom giles. some folks comparing the selloff to the 2008 financial crisis. could it get that bad? tom: we are seeing the conditions for a calamity in a lot of these shares. it does not look good. it is coming from every side. you are seeing it first and foremost geo-with eakly. how far will china go in supporting russia? the u.s. is sending a signal it is concerned about china doing so in which case...
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bloomberg's executive editor tom giles is with us along with david kirkpatrick. thank you.plicated to figure out how this is impacting everyday russians versus the russian government versus putin himself. david, what do you make of this exodus? what strikes you most about these companies taking a stand, whether they have large businesses in russia or not? david: clearly, digital information is an important part of the modern economy and how people are able to stay informed. the russian government does not want its people to be informed. i think most of the consumer digital information companies like tiktok, facebook, google are trying their best to continue operating on the grounds that they help people stay informed at a time when otherwise they would have difficulty doing so, but many of them are finding it is simply untenable. netflix and tiktok shut down in russia because new laws russia has introduced as part of their suppression of information make it possible they or their employees might be prosecuted. these companies are in a difficult position. emily: ukraine's vi
bloomberg's executive editor tom giles is with us along with david kirkpatrick. thank you.plicated to figure out how this is impacting everyday russians versus the russian government versus putin himself. david, what do you make of this exodus? what strikes you most about these companies taking a stand, whether they have large businesses in russia or not? david: clearly, digital information is an important part of the modern economy and how people are able to stay informed. the russian...
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how many times john, why therefore gazelle, mister giles, fine miner than in the summer? has anybody in that facility with what it means for another on them? winton that that's of hobby alyssa had to do that. ah. from the front drawings out, his name is correspondence continued to report every angle, if the war in ukraine we've just heard shilling in the distance and machine gun fall in the forest. there is a humanitarian crisis erupting on multiple fronts. rad rockets landed just a few meters from our convoy them in the positions i been there all over the need for a region, but each flyer, st totally destroyed along the road we came and on there was still clearly an active battlefield day without his air for the latest development, oh mon has a rich history, but also plays an important role in the gulf region to day. out there well discover its empires stretched from the arabian peninsula to east africa. built a great sea power. the problem that existed in the gulf was piracy. tribes was rebellion, empire and colonization. oman, history, power and influence on al jazeera
how many times john, why therefore gazelle, mister giles, fine miner than in the summer? has anybody in that facility with what it means for another on them? winton that that's of hobby alyssa had to do that. ah. from the front drawings out, his name is correspondence continued to report every angle, if the war in ukraine we've just heard shilling in the distance and machine gun fall in the forest. there is a humanitarian crisis erupting on multiple fronts. rad rockets landed just a few meters...
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the attack spanked violent protests that demonstrated holding the government responsible. colona was giles in 998 for assassinating a regional official. nicholas hark has more from the islands of corsica, or his been in a prison away from this island in what people here call the mainland of france in a prison in marcell. it's really the circumstances of his death that really caused public outcry. he was killed inside a prison cell under a french, in, inside a french prison. and that is something that many people here feel is a metaphor of how people feel towards france. they feel like the french authority have very much control over this island. and in his death, it has re ignited this popular nationalist feeling when we saw this spontaneous funeral commemoration. yesterday, when his body arrived, we saw young and old. we saw a grandmother with her grandchild. i spoke to her and i asked her, why were she here with her grandchildren? she said she has hatred in her heart towards not french people, but towards the french state. we've seen protests in the run up to his dad because he was in a
the attack spanked violent protests that demonstrated holding the government responsible. colona was giles in 998 for assassinating a regional official. nicholas hark has more from the islands of corsica, or his been in a prison away from this island in what people here call the mainland of france in a prison in marcell. it's really the circumstances of his death that really caused public outcry. he was killed inside a prison cell under a french, in, inside a french prison. and that is...