authority. 100,000 low income blacks in that gubernatorial race in florida, desantis voted against gillam the black candidate and even though oprah winfrey and barack obama campaign for gillam, to me that demonstrates that black low income people are willing to vote their interest and ignore race as a factor. >> let me ask you a question. we don't have a lot of time left. you mention barack obama, he has to attorney general both african-american. the democrats run the cities, many of these cities are democrat states, he now talks about systemic racism. did the obama administration make a difference. >> they made it worse. >> house so he was supposed to be the great healer the first time he was attacked by jesse jackson, he backed off and then retreated back to racial, the defense of institutional racism. the moment he was attacked viciously by jesse jackson, next thing he knew he withdrew from that platform. >> did he support school choice. >> no, he opposed it. that's why i talk to him in florida at the gubernatorial race, he campaigned for gilliam who was again school choice and 100,000