gillespie is off balance, bloodied. gun is pointing directly at her face. >> i could feel god moving my hands and feet. i've told people this before, and some of them think i'm crazy. but it was too perfect. i was there at the exact perfect second to do what i did. >> patrick dennis couglan, a musician, a former monk, and the right man in the right place at the right time. >> when i pulled into the parking lot, i could see that the officer had pulled over a man and was checking his id. i didn't think anything about it. when i got to the front door, just as i was going in, i saw that he was slapping at her and grabbing for her gun. >> that's when couglan makes a decision that could have deadly consequences. >> as soon as i got out there, i saw that they were struggling. and any man who is struggling with a woman, i'm going to go help the woman, especially if he is two feet taller than she is. whatever was going to happen, it was going to happen to her. >> couglan deliberately walks into the line of fire, calmly, and almo

we are joined by ed gillespie. welcome back. >> good to be back. >> chris: you heard the conversation with robert gibbs. i want to follow up on the point. under their plan with $716 billion medicare part a stays solvent until 2024. follows through and repels obama care and takes away the spending cuts and tax increases, the medicare trustees say that part a becomes insolvent in 2016. four years now and eight years earlier, what is governor romney going to do about that? >> he's going to reform medicare. the estimate does not assume any other reforms and the romney-ryan plan is to save the medicare plan for future generations by allowing different options for people below the age 55 . there would be no change for people. it would make medicare and put it on a sustainable footing as far as the eye can see. >> chris: but the problem is, those reforms done affect any seniors or anybody close to being a senior. but that doesn't solve the medicare part a program that kicks in. what are you going to do to keep part-a solv

we are joined by ed gillespie. you just heard my conversation with robert gibbs and i want to follow up on the points he made. under their planned about the obama care and the $716 billion medicare part a which is the hospital insurance part of medicare stays solvent until 2024 but if governor romney is elected and follows through and repeals obama care and takes away the spending cuts and tax increases the medicare trustees say that part a becomes insolvent in 2016. only four years from now and 8 years earlier. what is goff romney going to do about that? >> he is going to reform medicare. that is -- that estimate does not assume that there will be any other reforms and as you know, the romney-ryan plan is to save medicare for future generations by allowing for different options for people. if you are by the way below the age of 55, no change for any one who is currently on medicare or 55 and above and the reforms that they would put in place would make medicare, put it on a sustainable footing for as far as the ey

you have jim gillespie from yellow cabs here, and i support what you're doing here -- tim gillespie fromw cab -- jim gillespie from yellow cab. maybe it is time medallion holders put their medallion with their mouth is. director nolan: thank you. >> [reading names] our last speaker. director nolan: good. >> there just is so much to talk about. this amendment is a 30-page document. it is pretty much impossible for us to have gone through this 30- page document and come up with any solution. i think you should reject this plan right now and have some town hall meetings where malcolm heinicke and director reiskin show up at the town hall meetings and listened to what the drivers are

you have jim gillespie from yellow cabs here, and i support what you're doing here -- tim gillespie fromow cab -- jim gillespie from yellow cab. maybe it is time medallion holders put their medallion with their mouth is. director nolan: thank you. >> [reading names] our last speaker. director nolan: good. >> there just is so much to talk about. this amendment is a 30-page document. it is pretty much impossible for us to have gone through this 30- page document and come up with any solution. i think you should reject this plan right now and have some town hall meetings where malcolm heinicke and director reiskin show up at the town hall meetings and listened to what the drivers are saying and their concerns. all the other plans we have discussed have included half the medallions at least going to those drivers on the list to have changed their lives. we've had no other choice. for the last 32 years, there was no other option. they have made these career choices, and you are just throwing them under the bus. as far as being assets to the city, that originated from prop. k which says taxica

and then re-opening the search with david axelrod and ed gillespie on why his candidate gambled on a wonk who is wanting to overhaul medicare. and then risk/reward with jessica yellen. i'm candy crowley, and this is "state of the union." no surprise, president obama's campaign and other democrats are wasting no time attacking the new romney/ryan presidential ticket. descriptions we've heard thrown around so far, wrong, harsh and extreme. joining me now, former new hampshire governor and romney campaign adviser john sununu. welcome, governor, and good morning to you. >> nice to be on, candy. happy sunday. >> so let me ask you, this is certainly -- comes as a surprise to the romney campaign. they certainly knew ahead of time how this would taken. how do they move against what clearly is going to be an attempt to say, this is a man who wants to fundamentally change medicare and social security and going back to his record, which is basically seven terms in congress? >> well, you know, you've had a lot of discussion on that. i just want to point out that there's another benefit to this w

charles rathbone, andfá jim gillespie. >> allow me to say thank you to your staff for incorporating in item many suggestions that we made during the taxi town hall meetings. those hours were long but there were well spent and much appreciated, particularly the chains that director reiskin just made. we have one other concern and that is with the scheduled fiennes. on the second page to the bottom, the fine is $670 -- $617 to accepting gifts from drivers. we believe this is too broadly worded. it makes a cab company liable for frusen transactions that may occur between individuals that we may not even be aware of and that we're not party to. to illustrate the problem, consider what happened at the luxor cab office. one of our long time drivers brought in a beautiful chocolate cake to celebrate one of our staff members' birthday. there was no solicitation of the cake, there was no quid pro quo and about a dozen people enjoyed pieces of the cake. under this section would be liable for over $600 in fines for not producing this person pose the greatest gesture. i would ask that that particu

c-span: nick gillespie i want to read back to you from your book. senate minority leader tom daschle democrat of south dakota, former senator, precisely the sort of wealth quaffed non-entity who passes for a wise man in washington d.c.. non-entity? >> guest: yeah. i would say so. let me put it this way. a couple of years ago i wrote a piece called the leak league of and distinguished gentleman and or ordinary gentlemen about the senate and tom daschle had a long record of service. does any rate red really miss him? does he like many senators, in the anti-was just a time passer and he wasn't even a big enough presence for the obama administration to fight for him to be their secretary of health and human services posed -- services. i certainly don't mean it as an insult to him or to the senate but let's face it most of our elected officials in the greatest deliberate if chamber are interchangeable. c-span: you wrote this common world where choices are limited to john boehner and nancy pelosi the survivors envy the dead. >> guest: i think that's true.

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known, which is, the main thing is that under the president's health care reform law, just as ed gillespieaid, they would take $716 billion, they will, because it is law, take $716 billion over the next ten years, out of medicare to help pay for obamacare, as romney says, in ryan -- an ryan, treating it as a kind of piggy bank and that does two things, first of all, it says maybe the democrats are not quite the protecters of medicare you say, also, it is a way to get back into the debate over obamacare, which according to the polls is not a popular program. >> eric: can you analyze for a second, explain it because it is so confusing and as you say the republicans say the president takes $716 billion, puts it into another government program, obamacare and the ryan plan takes the $716 billion, to pay down the deficit, but, the romney plan apparently takes the 716 and restores it to medicare. so, how do we all sort it out, to figure out what they really want to do? >> well, basically, you have to forget about the ryan plan, because he's the running mate, so he doesn't decide the policy, romne

>> i think as ed gillespie said, if you look at base of the party, they love paul ryan. they are quite energy energized by the pick. their concerns about whether or not mitt romney is a real conservative have been allayed because they know that paul ryan is a real conservative. he has been part of the tea party caucus in the congress in the republican-led congress. i think that when you look beyond that, there is just so many things -- i think we are not talking about a referendum on president obama's handling of the economy, which i think is the best hand possible for republicans in the presidential race. instead, we are talking about medicare and that's a losing hand for republicans. we're having to defend the fact that ryan took part in the stimulus spending while condemning the stimulus. i think a lot of this is not ps for the g.o.p. ticket. >> shannon: juan giving advice to the g.o.p. ticket, giving us inside scoop there. what impact do you think it has that at this point, a lot of americans don't know who paul ryan is? it will be the democrats defining him? >> fort

with south dakota republican john thune, and then re-oping the search with david axelrod and ed gillespie on why his candidate gambled on a wonk who is wanting to overhaul medicare. and then risk/reward, ron brown, and cnn's dan lothian. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." >>> the campaign trail is most often a series of mind-numbing days interrupted by the ones that you will never forget, and the days when you know that one way or another, something has changed, and saturday was one of those days for mitt romney. >> what works here, and what works around the world is free people pursuing their dreams. we want those dreamers here. we can accomplish our dreams. >> because as much as voters learned about paul ryan yesterday, they may have learned more about romney first and foremost that this most cautious of candidates will take a big risk for the potential of a big payoff. at first blush this much could be said for the ryan pick, it appears to have brought home conservatives. joining fouser a conversation of that and more i john thune, s senator from south dakota, and that is

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. >> we were at a briefing this morning, bloomberg news briefing, john, where ed gillespie said if hehe white house, looking at that "the washington post" poll, he would be throwing up in his trash can today. they feel pretty confident, although when you look at the battleground states, it's a different story. they've got a very narrow needle to thread. >> i believe what ed gillespie was speaking the truth in what he said, that the status quo is very troubling for people in the white house. what he probably didn't say, and i wasn't at your bloomberg briefing because i was at my own politico briefing, but what he didn't say but it's palpable among republicans here, deep frustration. this should be a winnable race. the major issue is the economy. president obama does not have confidence among the electorate in his leadership skills. that sounds like a recipe for a losing election but at best it's tied and probably in reality, president obama is ahead. it's precisely because of this issue we're talking about, mitt romney's failure to establish a compelling personal connection for his lea

gillespie suggested or in the romney budget plan about when that budget will be balanced. back in june mr. romney said he would try to balance the budget within eight to ten years. back in march he admitted that the budget lacked enough specifics to say for sure just when or if it would be balanced. listen. >> i haven't laid out all of the details of how we'll deal with each one of the deductions and exemptions. i think it's interesting for the groups to try to score it because frankly it can't be scored because those kind of details are going to have to be worked out with congress. >> just a few days ago his top adviser said no new specifics would be forthcoming whether that's good enough for voters really to decide and not for us to decide. it does raise the question over whether or not the romney campaign has a messaging problem. joining us this evening, ari fleischer and robert reich. he's the author of a new ebook that's called "beyond outrage." ari, we'll start with you. i was surprised that ed was surprised considering the interview from last night which was a very

he didn't know, ed gillespie didn't know. >> off the top of his head.s, you can't know. >> this is the point. this campaign has been surprisingly devoid of policy specifics, very few policies speeches and specifics. we're going to have to see that for the romney campaign in boston after the convention if not before. >> this begs the question. once the ryan pick came forward, we heard we're going to talk about big issues, move away from personal attacks. we saw a quick turn back. i don't think either side is innocent to the personal attacks going back and forth. do you think at this point from what you can see that this election is going to turn on the big issues you say need to be talked about, or is this going to turn on small, negative, personal attacks we have seen to this point? >> voters don't care about small, personal negative attacks. they frame how they view the candidates. voters want to hear about the economy and specifics. i think it's just a lot of -- it fills time in between the candidates, they're going back and forth, it is more gamesman

well, in fact, governor romney has released his 2010 tax returns, his senior campaign advisor ed gillespie saying everyone will be able to see 2011's return by october 15th and all he's planning to release and senator gillespie says that's more than enough. >> two years of full tax returns, consistent with what john mccain did in 2008. it wasn't an issue in 2008 because president obama wasn't trying to distract from a four year long record of failed policies. >> meanwhile, mr. romney's wife ann reportedly expected to be named the main headliner, kicking off the republican national convention in florida on november 1st. and that announcement likely tomorrow, as a much larger rollout of the convention schedule. and steve centanni, talking tax returns, what will governor romney's focus be in the final weeks before the convention? >> he'll sure to try to be focused on the economy and that's been the main focus all along and now doubt he'll be plagued about questions about those tax returns and you had not only the top campaign advisors sparring over the issues today, but the top surrogates lik

shouldn't ed gillespie be the one looking for the sick bag?nest, i think democrats have been a little bit overconfident from the spring into the summer. and it was a pretty tough summer for governor romney, i mean, look at the polls. so the democrats have finally figured out -- the rose-colored glasses are gone, and they realize that we're at almost 69 days out and, guess what, the race is neck and neck. both sides should be scared like crazy and both sides should be a little bit confident. i can tell you, i spoke with the obama campaign on sunday, at length, and i said, look, i'm of the opinion that i think this all boils down to ohio, virginia, and florida, and they said, yes, that's exactly right. but they said, guess what. if we win every state that john kerry won in 2004 and win nevada and win iowa, we win, and we don't have to win those three states. that is an astonishing pathway to victory, if you will. there are just as many -- not as many. there are similar scenarios for mitt romney. this is going to boil down to, though, in my opini

>> a lot of republicans and karl rove and ed gillespie looked at envy what democrats did, using outsideroups to support candidates. we thought it was important to even out that score particularly looking ahead to the presidential election. so we saw it as a way to use existing campaign finance laws and try to replicate what democrats have done so effectively, drievlg overhead costs and delivering a lot of bang for the buck. >> so some of those outside groups held fund-raisers but how effective have you been so far and do you think romney would be as close as he is if you weren't part of the process? >> i think mitt romney has run a good campaign but a big hindrance is the financial disparity where he has been having come 'pet active primary and president obama did $120 million of negative advertising on his character. we have been keeping the focus on the economy and president obama's failure to turn it around. i think that is one of the reasons why we come into this pre-convention period with essentially dead even race. >> you mentioned some of the negative advertising ton by the presi

learn more at chase.com/ink >>> i'm joined now by ed gillespie, a senior adviser for the romney campaigned, good to see you. >> good to see you. >> big day for the campaign yesterday, and we have heard so many people interpret what it meant for the campaign and what it said about mitt romney, and so why don't you tell us from the insooide-out, what was the message that you all were trying to send yesterday with this pick? >> well, the message was that this is a big election, and it is about big issues and it needs to be serious, and governor romney has been putting forward the romney plan for a stronger middle-class for a long time. our first ads were about what he would do as president. in picking paul ryan says that we will choose someone here who has a record of taking on the tough issues of facing the challenges that we confront as a country and providing solutions and answers to those things, and i think that it shows that we're not going to be distracted by some of the little things that the obama campaign wants to be constantly putting out there. we want to talk about the big issu

gillespie and tarik mahmoud. >> i may have -- maybe losing -- wasting my time. you're not caring to understand how the taxi industry works. i wish you would come to that taxi town hall meetings. bruce oka did go to some. i did not agree with how he conducted himself but he took the time to attend and understand what was going on. it is important that some of you besides malcolm heinicke get some of these questions answered or see for yourself how operations work. not just from one company but maybe several or to go to the town hall meetings or thexd tacf it is existing again. that is the question that should be resolved and you should hold an agenda item. that is the one good thing that nathaniel ford did due to agree the tax exempt it became a useless and a day. regarding these items before you, there was a town hall meeting but the outrage was so terrible. the director decided information needs to get out earlier. with regarding these, there has been little outrage and the impact on the industry as great in some areas. that -- [unintelligible] without more out