the explain what was going on was skills minister gillian keegan.— minister gillian keegan.an. the most important thing was _ minister gillian keegan. the most important thing was to _ minister gillian keegan. the most important thing was to try - minister gillian keegan. the most important thing was to try and - minister gillian keegan. the mostj important thing was to try and get that balance right. we have explored a number— that balance right. we have explored a number of options including amber watchlisl _ a number of options including amber watchlist etc. on the whole we have thought _ watchlist etc. on the whole we have thought we need to make sure the system _ thought we need to make sure the system is — thought we need to make sure the system is simple enough for people to understand. if it gets too complicated, people cannot follow it. ~ , it. the prime minister said yesterday _ it. the prime minister said yesterday when _ it. the prime minister said yesterday when asked, - it. the prime minister said - yesterday when asked, simple. the simplest form of the traffic

the skills minister, gillian keegan, said it was important to keep the system as simple as possible.with me now is the labour mp for exeter is ben bradshaw he is also a member of the transport committee. why is there a problem with something so simple as a traffic light system of red, amber and green. i light system of red, amber and ireen. ., �* ~' ., light system of red, amber and i reen, ., �* 4' ., ., light system of red, amber and ireen. ., �* ~ ., ., . green. i don't know how much you have looked _ green. i don't know how much you have looked at _ green. i don't know how much you have looked at the _ green. i don't know how much you have looked at the rules _ green. i don't know how much you have looked at the rules across i have looked at the rules across europe, but the united kingdom has the most complicated, expensive and restrictive travel rules of any country. the rest of europe has been travelling freely more or less since mid—june, the americans also. we have had the stop—go system, the prime minister inventing new systems then changing his mind. the holiday industry in