gillian keegan, ureat is very targeted. gillian keegan, treat to is very targeted.ave you with us - is very targeted. gillian keegan, great to have you with us in - is very targeted. gillian keegan, great to have you with us in the | great to have you with us in the studio. what do you think? let me know what you think. also let us know what you thought of esther ghey�*s radical calls for changing how children access the internet. email us at kuenssberg@bbc.co.uk. or on social use the hashtag #bbclaurak and we'll try and share some of of the converation later in the show. incredible strength and compassion from esther, do you think her idea of something as radical as a ban on social media for kids is something your readers and people would like to see? i your readers and people would like to see? ., your readers and people would like to see? ~' your readers and people would like to see? ~ , , ., to see? i think so, yes. i mean, when children _ to see? i think so, yes. i mean, when children have _ to see? i think so, yes. i mean, when children have a _ to see? i thin

and this morning, i think when gillian keegan said, "ah, yes, well, we're looking at banning phones inthat. she does want that to happen. but i think there have been a lot of people probably shouting at the telly and thinking, "well, that's not real life. that's not happening. the government actually is going to have to force this to happen." and when a newscaster, laura, emailed us saying, "a question for gillian keegan — how is this compatible with a school day online? my daughter's i2. her timetables on an app. i manage her dinner money online. her homework is logged on another app that then directs you to several other websites or apps, depending on the subject. if they finish their work early in class, they're told to do their homework on one of these apps. however, school policy is if she should take her phone out on site at school, it will get confiscated and she will get demerits — like black marks — which i get to check on another app." laura says she's confused. i'm confused. well, exactly. so on the one hand, this is... in a sense, this is the dilemma. technology has massive

and i think gillian keegan is with now. been badly done.nk gillminister,an is with now. been badly done. and i think gillminister,an is wto now. been badly done. and i think gillminister,an is wto n0\to >> minister, lovely to speak to you this morning. thank you very much for making the time. i've just been discussing with my newspaper plan just been discussing with my nevteacher plan just been discussing with my nevteacher apprentices. plan just been discussing with my nevteacher apprentices. i plan for teacher apprentices. i suppose the suppose that does beg the question whether we are going to have the prospect of teenagers teaching teenagers . teaching teenagers. >> well, i mean, we already have work placements going in to do the work placements at various age. but no, that's not the intention . about 70% of all the intention. about 70% of all the occupation in this country . now occupation in this country. now you can access through an apprenticeship scheme. so we have completely revolutionised apprenticeships in country apprenticeship

it was interesting, we asked gillian keegan whether they were ready to look at that radical action and major change having that low in the statute book. it is a big deal. i do believe very strongly there will be lots of parents who have listened to esther this morning and thought, yes, that's what it's like in my house. ifight yes, that's what it's like in my house. i fight with yes, that's what it's like in my house. ifight with my yes, that's what it's like in my house. i fight with my kids about tech all the time. i do worry i can't control what they are seeing and accessing. i don't think i can properly be across what they are getting up to. how do we keep our children safe in the context of these incredibly powerful supercomputers that everybody is wandering around with in their pocket. i do think sometimes you get a voice, an individual, who can use the incredible power of their own experience to persuade and think of the work already done by ian russell. would we have had the 0nline safety bill? although it takes ages, would we have had it in the format we now have it had it not

what would you say to gillian keegan, would you say to gillian keegan, would you say to gillian keeganke to see it happening every school? mindfulness needs to be, ideally. — every school? mindfulness needs to be. ideally. we _ every school? mindfulness needs to be, ideally, we shouldn't— every school? mindfulness needs to be, ideally, we shouldn't have - every school? mindfulness needs to be, ideally, we shouldn't have only| be, ideally, we shouldn't have only one mindfulness teacher in every school, it should be completely embedded into the school system. find embedded into the school system. and also this week we saw parents in america confront mark zuckerberg, the boss of meta which owns facebook and instagram and other big gaps. if he was here what would you say to him the? i he was here what would you say to him the? ~ ., , , him the? i think that the focus is alwa s on him the? i think that the focus is always on making _ him the? i think that the focus is always on making such _ him the? i think that the focus is always on making such a - him the? i think that the focus is alway

to talk about mobile phones on the line, we have education we have now the education secretary gillian keeganh, mobile from schools. >> um a lot of people are , are >> um a lot of people are, are they just are concerned that they just are concerned that they haven't been banned already and they don't see what the issue is, what is the scale of the problem that you are facing? and what do you intend to do about it ? about it? >> well, i think what we face is the problem of inconsistency. so some have already done some schools have already done this, some headteachers, some schools have already done this, that ome headteachers, some schools have already done this, that have1eadteachers, some schools have already done this, that have have eachers, some schools have already done this, that have have reported those that have have reported that it's a fantastic impact that it's had a fantastic impact actually on behaviour and concentration and performance at school. um, but we also know that some have not. um, and we think it's probably about half and half have got an outright ban. what we want to

i mean, what would you say to gillian keegan? would you want her to make it happen in every school?ely. i think that mindfulness needs to be... really, ideally, we don't need, we shouldn't only have one mindfulness teacher in every school. it should be completely embedded into the school system. and also this week, we saw parents in america confront mark zuckerberg, the boss of meta, which of course, owns facebook, and instagram and lots of those other big apps. if he was here, what would you say to him or other social media bosses? i think that the focus is always on making such a lot of money, and not really how we protect people, or how we can necessarily benefit society. and i think that greed needs to be taken out of the picture, and we need to focus a little bit more on how we can help each other. and, yeah, it was such a powerful thing to see the parents all standing up to them. it's quite out of control. i heard somebody once call the internet the wild west, and that's basically what it is. and we've kind of got our children, we threw them in, in the deep end of it. and, yes

the education minister, gillian keegan, shared her thoughts on the new guidance. i think, to be honest, that this will be successful because where it has been successful you can see, and many people say, the improvement in behaviour, the improvement in performance, the improvement in the whole school culture is really tangible. so i think many, many head teachers want to do this and this helps empower them to do it. and we're not the first country in the world. other countries have done this, as well. but what we want to do is be consistent and ensure consistency across our schools and reset that social norm. but geoff barton from the association of school and college leaders said the government should be focusing on other, more urgent, situations facing schools. i think there is a little bit of a sense of deja vu all over again, of a government that wants to seem like it's saying something powerful but largely if it wants to say something powerful, could they do it on the things that matter? funding, special needs, the need for us to stop crumbling schools? all o

gillian keegan, it alloimplementalers develop secretary gillian keegan, it alloimplement a policy developy whichyp and implement a policy which could allow phones during lessons, breaks and lunches with provisions for searches. if necessary. i would have thought that schools already had this opfion that schools already had this option . for them, but joining us option. for them, but joining us is author and broadcaster lisa mackenzie, who allows students to use their phones class and to use their phones in class and journalist and broadcaster julie cooke, thinks should journalist and broadcaster julie c0(banned thinks should journalist and broadcaster julie c0(banned ainnks should journalist and broadcaster julie c0(banned as they're should be banned as they're a distraction. well, who should we start with? julie. why do you think they should be banned in schools? children, schools? surely children, you know, get in touch with know, need to get in touch with their to their parents, need to look things on google . things up on google. >> no, i don't think they do. i think, you know, when yo

the education minister, gillian keegan, shared her thoughts on the new guidance.e where it has been successful you can see, and many people say, the improvement in behaviour, the improvement in performance, the improvement in the whole school culture is really tangible. so i think many, many head teachers want to do this and this helps empower them to do it. and we're not the first country in the world. other countries have done this, as well. but what we want to do is be consistent and ensure consistency across our schools and reset that social norm. but geoff barton from the association of school and college leaders said the government should be focusing on other, more urgent, situations facing schools. i think there is a little bit of a sense of deja vu all over again, of a government that wants to seem like it's saying something powerful but largely if it wants to say something powerful, could they do it on the things that matter?

but the education secretary, gillian keegan , told secretary, gillian keegan, told us this morning ong clarity and consistency exists across all classrooms. what we're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones are not acceptable in our schools and but some other countries have already done this quite a few countries have already done this, and we just want to make sure consistent we sure that it's consistent and we make we empower make it clear and we empower head do this. head teachers to do this. >> we think mostly this >> and we think that mostly this is something that parents would welcome a search is underway today in leicester after a two year old boy fell into the river sodi’. 5061“. >> soan >> emergency services responded just after 5:00 last night to an area near marsden lane. leicestershire police are leading the ongoing operation there and have deployed additional specialist teams today. you can see there if you're watching on tv, pictures of those rescue operations or search operations as they are now taking place at that river

the education minister, gillian keegan, shared her thoughts on the new guidance. successful, you can see, and many people say, the improvement in behaviour, the improvement in performance, the improvements in the whole school culture is really tangible. so i think many, many head teachers want to do this and this helps empower them to do it. and we're not the first country in the world, other countries have done this as well, but what we want to do is be consistent and ensure consistency across our schools and reset that social norm. but geoff barton from the association of school and college leaders said the government should be focusing on other, more urgent, situations facing schools. i think there is a little bit of a sense of deja vu all over again of a government that wants to seem like it's saying something powerful but largely if it wants to say something powerful, could they do it on the things that matter? funding, special needs, the need for us to stop crumbling schools? all of those things are the big issues for parents, rather than something about mob

so the education secretary, gillian keegan, is telling heads of schools what their mobile phone policyre on these phones? is it a distraction for school life ? you distraction for school life? you bet your life it is. but does it really need to come from the government? all of that in just a moment on patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. have extreme lists. >> got circus starmer on the run. the labour party could now vote the snp over a vote with the snp over a ceasefire in gaza . is the nhs ceasefire in gaza. is the nhs eradicating women? they're claiming trans women's milk is as good as natural breast milk. speaking of the nhs , they're speaking of the nhs, they're serving patients food. you wouldn't give to your dog and violent riots among eritrean around europe. have we imported sectarian violence into britain ? sectarian violence into britain? don't miss patrick christys tonight nine till 11 pm. on gb news. i'll be there i >> -- >> well, the one statistic today that really did stand out was when the education secretary, gillian keegan, said that 97% of 12 year olds have a mobile

but the education secretary , gillian keegan, says secretary, gillian keegan, says the government's ensuringe're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones are not acceptable in our schools. and some other countries have already done this. quite a few countries have already done this, and we just want make sure it's want to make sure that it's consistent clear consistent and we make it clear and empower head teachers consistent and we make it clear an> gillian keegan campaigners have lost a high court challenge over a new plans to build a road tunnel near stonehenge in wiltshire, a proposal to build a two mile tunnel between amesbury and berwick down was denied by

and in any sense, let's do the telegraph and gillian keegan claims the case of the criminal who gamedommitting a horrific chemical attack was not really about asylum. presumably the tories are not really keen on winning the next election. are not really keen on winning the paul,election. are not really keen on winning the paul,eldon'ti. are not really keen on winning the paul,eldon't know are not really keen on winning the paul, eldon't know what >> paul, i don't know what disco biscuits he's been we biscuits he's been on, but we need some, uh, gillian keegan obviously this in the telegraph, a chemical attack, not really about asylum. so education secretary says the case involving the alleged assault by abdul is not about flaws in the system . so when she was asked system. so when she was asked about it, she said basically, when she was questioned , they when she was questioned, they were conflating the two things. my were conflating the two things. my assumption is she's just trying to skirt the issue here, and i don't know why. she's quite a competitive politician. normally she face

i think we can have a listen in to a clip of gillian keegan talking about this on gb news with camillaand they're also available to people of all ages. so if you want to be a space engineer an account or a engineer or an account or a medical doctor or almost any job you can think of, you can now do it apprenticeship . it via an apprenticeship. >> is this one of these >> so is this one of these policies that, you know, you can put cigarette between put a cigarette paper between you conservatives on you and the conservatives on this? is this? so gillian keegan is really apprenticeships really big on apprenticeships because herself was an because she herself was an apprentice . yes apprentice. yes >> well, apprenticeships are down under this government. in 2010 there was 457 apprenticeships starting today, that figure is . 337,000. so that figure is. 337,000. so a big drop in the number of apprenticeships. but you know also businesses are saying that they can't get the skills that they can't get the skills that they need which is why the system needs reform to give employers and businesse

a few— education secretary gillian keegan.for a third time. british fighterjets took off from cyprus last night as they, along with american forces, struck 36 targets across 13 locations in response to attacks on ships in the red sea. the uk's defence secretary grant shapps said that the uk has a "duty to protect innocent lives and preserve "freedom of navigation", adding that the operation is "proportionate and targeted". this comes as a new report raises broader questions about the capabilities of britain's armed forces. the commons defence committee is warning that they don't have enough personnel or weapons to fight an all—out war. we can speak now to sirjeremy quin, chair of the committee. good morning and thank you for taking the time to talk to us. your thoughts on these latest us — uk strikes overnight? thoughts on these latest us - uk strikes overnight?— thoughts on these latest us - uk strikes overnight? they are part of a continuing _ strikes overnight? they are part of a continuing pattern, _ strikes overnight? the

i saw gillian keegan on a tv this morning talking about the rwanda plan.erstand it, i think convicted of think someone who's convicted of a rwanda a crime, i don't think rwanda would this person would want to take this person ehhen would want to take this person either. question either. so then the question comes person go? >> that's a very good point, isn't it? but gillian keegan was also on, on, um, another broadcaster saying saying that this case has nothing to do with asylum . this is just violence asylum. this is just violence against women. yeah. >> i think that's a bizarre thing for her to have said. it's clearly a factor that that this man an asylum seeker. um, man was an asylum seeker. um, you think people will you know, i think people will have very legitimate questions about what he was doing in this country, only having done country, not only having done this also this horrific attack, but also having committed offences in this horrific attack, but also hav pastommitted offences in this horrific attack, but also hav past .�*nmitted offences in

we're just waiting for gillian .we're just waiting for gillian keegan, the education secretary.r, very much minister, thank you very much for the time. just for making the time. i've just been my been discussing with my newspaper your plan newspaper guests there your plan for apprentices. for teacher apprentices. i suppose that does beg the question whether we are going to have the prospect of teenagers teaching teenagers . teaching teenagers. >> well, i mean, we already have workplace payments going in to do the work placements at various age. but no, that's not the intention. about 70% of all the intention. about 70% of all the occupations in this country. now, you can access through an apprenticeship scheme. so we have completely revolutionised apprenticeships this country. apprenticeships in this country. and also available to and they're also available to people of ages. so if you people of all ages. so if you want to be a space engineer or an accountant or a medical doctor , almost any job you can doctor, almost any job you can think of, you can now do it via an apprentice

we'll be speaking to the education secretary gillian keegan at 7.30.ren should have mobile phones at schools, whether they should be taken from them, they are distracting but also useful. especially as you go back after half them today. use your mobile phones, grown—ups, there is the number on screen, you can get in touch. if you send us a whatsapp please do send your name and where your messaging from and the ages of the children as well. �* . from and the ages of the children as well. �* , , ,., from and the ages of the children as well. �*, , ,., ., from and the ages of the children as well. �*, ., well. let's get the sport now as well. harry styles popping up watching manchester united. we harry styles popping up watching manchester united.— harry styles popping up watching manchester united. we were watching and we were — manchester united. we were watching and we were like, _ manchester united. we were watching and we were like, that _ manchester united. we were watching and we were like, that guy _ manchester united. we were watching and we were

i'll also be joined by education secretary gillian keegan and labour's chris bryant for what is shapingt and more with me camilla tominey from 930 on sunday morning . morning. >> and welcome back to the saturday night showdown. i'm simon evans, standing in for leo kursawe sitting really culture corner coming up . kursawe sitting really culture corner coming up. but kursawe sitting really culture corner coming up . but first kursawe sitting really culture corner coming up. but first i promised i would show what promised i would show you what happened when richard branson boldly to try vegemite boldly decided to try a vegemite sandwich , which we have now sandwich, which we have now managed to get vegemite on exclusively on to, um, uh, to virgin voyages in australia . virgin voyages in australia. and he didn't want to follow. he's not a fan, obviously. i don't know whether he prefers marmite or just know whether he prefers marmite orjust doesn't like savoury or just doesn't like savoury spreads at all. >> what do you think? vegemite. it's very, very different to marmite. oh it. oh yeah. v

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let's listen to gillian let's have a listen to gillian keegan. education secretary. keegan.ducation secretary. >> do is empower >> what we want to do is empower head teachers to make that head teachers to make sure that mobile phones are, you know, not used in school. and i think that's something that all parents will probably welcome. well, there's lots of problems. it's, um, texting and being on social media when you should be, um, you know, being taught and learning your lessons . it's, um, learning your lessons. it's, um, sometimes bullying and sometimes it's, um, you know, people sort of ostracise teasing somebody on social media. that's something else that you see, you know, it's very pervasive . it's very pervasive. >> there you go. let me start with you. uh, lord moylan, this whole notion, i mean, i want to be clear, everybody, by the way, because a lot of schools are already doing stuff like this in schools. this policy today, i'll just bring you up to speed if you're not already. this four opfions you're not already. this four options it. option options basically on

reward for information on the whereabouts of abdul ezedl on the whereabouts of abdul ezedi, while gillian keegan the education secretary, says the attacker's story is actually not really about asylum and mauled to death. >> an essex town is in huge shock after a 68 year old grandmother was killed by dogs suspected to be xl bullies over the weekend. this is just a few days after the xl bully band was introduced and social media crackdown . crackdown. >> the mother of the murdered teenager , brianna ghey, is teenager, brianna ghey, is calling for a ban on children's access to social media after it was revealed the daughter's killer. watch torture videos online. here is her mum . online. here is her mum. >> so i'd like to see mobile phone companies take more responsibility . um, it's so responsibility. um, it's so difficult for parents now to , difficult for parents now to, um, to safeguard their children. the carry a mobile phone in their pocket 24 over seven. >> she's a remarkable woman and taylor swift soared at the grammy awards . she's become the grammy awards. she's become the first performer

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the education secretary, gillian keegan, says the government's ensuring clarity and consistency existshat we're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones are not acceptable in our schools and some other countries have already done this. >> quite a countries >> quite a few countries have already done this, just already done this, and we just want that it's want to make sure that it's consistent make it clear, consistent and we make it clear, and head teachers and we empower head teachers to do this. and we think that mostly, um, this is something that would welcome. mostly, um, this is something tha now would welcome. mostly, um, this is something tha now , would welcome. mostly, um, this is something tha now , lord )uld welcome. mostly, um, this is something tha now , lord cameron ome. mostly, um, this is something tha now , lord cameron has. mostly, um, this is something tha now , lord cameron has been >> now, lord cameron has been visiting some key battle sites in the falkland islands, in the south atlantic today as part of his visit to s

the next election , including at the next election, including lots of cabinet ministers like gillian keeganne, but liz truss remains . liz truss but liz truss remains. liz truss is the most likely person with the vendetta against the existing party, because they staged made her the staged a coup and made her the shortest prime minister shortest sitting prime minister in . if anyone's to in history. if anyone's going to allow to farage allow nigel to farage cannibalise the conservative party and capture it and actually drag it to the right, it's liz truss. so it's going to be liz truss. so i wouldn't be shocked if nigel takes offer and takes up her offer and assimilates a lot of the successful reform uk candidates into whatever liz wants to create to stop michael gove steering the tory party again . steering the tory party again. >> no. do you think so, connor ? >> no. do you think so, connor? let's go back to ben habib. we've back now. ben, uh, we've got ben back now. ben, uh, you carry what you were you carry on with what you were saying. transfixed saying. because i was transfixed with .

. >> we've got it with gillian keegan. >> do? yeah >> do we do? yeah >> do we do? yeah >> sorry.ar's wife. >> is caesar's wife. must not. it's not just that she shouldn't do bad things. it's that she must be above suspicion of doing them. and it was a real mistake of rishi sunak to do that to make him environment minister. >> because what is the incentive as a, as a, as a citizen for the environment secretary to cut bonuses for water executives when that would directly affect the income of his household? i'm not suggesting that in any way, he corrupt, but as scarlett he is corrupt, but as scarlett says, you don't want to see that element of suspicion in anybody's mind. it has to be seen to be above the law as well as being above the law itself. >> no, i can, i accept that, and i know it's a really horrible word that, again, most people watching go, hate the watching would go, oh, hate the fact you use this word, but fact that you use this word, but you know, of it. do you know, the optics of it. do not great. and in politics, not look great. and in politics, whether we like it or

. >> oh, i know on your, uh, on the government website talking about this, gillian keegan is quoted as choose between having a career and having a family. i know there are probably a lot of people watching us at the people watching us right at the moment say, you shouldn't moment who say, you shouldn't have can't have a family if you can't afford it, and it's not the afford it, and it's not for the state keep kids . state to keep your kids. >> well, when i knock on doors in my own constituency , which i in my own constituency, which i do pretty much every week, um, the vast, vast majority of parents are saying to me that what would really help them is to have support with childcare . to have support with childcare. um, this is the latest in a series of expansions that we've we've made to childcare care. um, we can if we want to get into the fact that the labour party have absolutely no plan for this area whatsoever . you for this area whatsoever. you might in a minute want to ask me about that. but but i think that this has been really popular with parents so far. and we already we ope

they also met the education secretary, gillian keegan, who asked the dads to use their expertise to helpappen. so trying to change society for the better. so i know exactly what em would say. "you're doing a good thing, dad." alison freeman, bbc news. we arejoined now by mike palmer, andy airey and tim owen. good andy airey and tim owen. morning. thank you so coming good morning. thank you so much for coming in. i know you are here because you have some news to share with us, just tell us what the latest idea is.— with us, just tell us what the latest idea is. ~ ., ., latest idea is. well, we are going to walk again. — latest idea is. well, we are going to walk again, is _ latest idea is. well, we are going to walk again, is the _ latest idea is. well, we are going to walk again, is the thing. - latest idea is. well, we are going to walk again, is the thing. we i latest idea is. well, we are going i to walk again, is the thing. we had a bit of a year off last year, when we spent most of our time in westminster, it felt like, talking to the department for education. in spring, were going

>> well, we're going to be speaking to the education secretary, gillian keegan.o the red sea um, we've also got an exclusive interview with suella braverman. it's a great weekend, obviously, to have her not least in to have her on, not least in light of what you were just discussing mr brennan discussing with mr brennan there. this horrific case of there. and this horrific case of this chemical attack and indeed asking questions about why it is that someone can continue to seek asylum and not have that asylum claim, revoke if they've been found guilty of a crime in the uk at the moment, as the law stands, they need to have been convicted and spend more than a yearin convicted and spend more than a year in jail. but i think most people watching listening to people watching and listening to this be thinking to this will be thinking to themselves, you've committed themselves, if you've committed a sex crime, it doesn't matter how you might have spent in how long you might have spent in prison, should not able prison, you should not be able to continue asylum to cont