how does your proposal, senator mccaskell, differ from what senator gillibrand is proposing?well, i think proposal that we are supporting does a better job of protecting the victims and a better job of holding commanders accountable and ultimately it will result in more prosecutions and putting more perpetrators behind bars. i think as former prosecutors that's what motivated both -- i think i can speak for kelly that this is about -- i mean, frankly we don't care whether the commanders are in it or not. the important issue is how can we protect victims and get more successful prosecutions. >> ifill: senator ayotte, senator gillibrand said when she talked to the newshour that this is what victims have asked for, her approach, which is to take it out of the chain of command. how do you respond to that? what have victims told you? >> well, certainly victims have varying views on this issue and what we want to do is make sure that we -- make sure victims are protected. that's why we made retaliation under a crime under the u.c.m.j. but also to make sure the chain of command and

at a june hearing, democratic senator kirsten gillibrand of new york argued victims have little reasonexpect fair treatment. >> not all commanders are objective. not every single commander necessarily wants women in the force; not every single commander believes what a sexual assault is; not every single single commander can distinguish between a slap on the ass and a rape because they merge all of these crimes together. >> brown: gillibrand, and her 46 legislative co-sponsors in the senate want sexual assault cases handled entirely outside the chain of command. the senate armed services committee has rejected that approach, in favor of one offered its chairman, carl levin of michigan. it keeps prosecutions within the chain of command. today, the director of the joint staff, lieutenant general curtis scaparrotti, said there's ample opportunity for victims to be heard. >> our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines know that today there's about ten avenues for them to report and they also know that when they do report, it immediately goes to a military investigation office in law enforcem

we have been working with senator jell-o brand -- gillibrand. looking at every possible idea, practice out there to see what might help us get after this problem. we have been working very closely with her. we believe there is merit in many of the legislative issues. some of those out there, we are still considering. if we believe we can make a difference in this problem set, we will look strongly at enacting other initiatives. correlationa strong with these abuses and abuse of alcohol. to what extent are you looking at taking the scientific measures to ensure that all of these underage folks are not having access to alcohol, which seems to be such an aggravating factor? is there any consideration to banning alcohol in basis -- on bases? >> i can speak from my experience. you're right, there is a strong correlation between the use of alcohol and these crimes. we have taken steps to limit alcohol in the barracks, to have our noncommissioned officers and officers enforce those standards in terms of the sale of alcohol and post. in many posts, we w

the ones that you listed, kirsten gillibrand, maybe. >> laura: gillibrand? oh my gosh. i will support hillary over that gillibrand? come on. >> a will the of people are talking about her because she won with the biggest margin. anyway, that's probably something like she would beelfe future. obama is the real wild card in this. i don't think he is interested in a hillary presidency and, remember, he controls all that data that he mined that led to his massive re-election. he controls it. not the democrat national committee not debbie wasser isman schultz not hillary clinton. >> laura: you are leaving someone out of this equation. >> joe biden i'm sorry. >> laura: great job at girl scout pinning ceremonies, bake sales. he did the stimulus monitoring. >> always looking out for joe biden. >> laura: summer of recovery. did he that whole thing with everybody go out and buy a shotgun. he has had such a positive effect on the country, is he a likeable guy. commerce secretary in the clinton administration. >> he has run for president before multiple times, actually. there is not

amy klobuchar and janet napolitano and kristen gillibrand. >> kasie hunt joins us.getting the most enthusiastic? are there names as viable as hillary clinton's name? >> absolutely. hillary is at the top of the list here. she was mentioned by senator mccaskill as somebody who mccaskill would like us to call madam president in 2016. there is a focus on building the bench also. you've seen amy klobuchar, a senator from minnesota and kristen gillibrand from new york and wendy davis in texas. they polled caucus goers in iowa and showed 95% are ready for a woman president and 85% say it's likely. emily's list is focusing on the numbers as proof that this particular state, of course, kicking off the presidential season, is ready to choose a woman as their next leader. but keep in mind, thomas, the fact they are having this event here today is no coincide. tomorrow in ames which is nearby, republicans will gather with conservative candidates, they are hosting senator ted cruz and donald trump and rick santorum, the former presidential candidates. organizers wanted to make a

. >>> stricter controls, trainer es, and improved tracking of complaints, in response, kristen gillibrand said the pentagon taking action is a good thing, but it is not the leap forward required to solve the problem. >>> a warning for swimmers. be weary of swimming in fresh water. two 12-year-olds, a boy from florida and a girl from arkansas are currently fighting this very rare infection. scientists made a rather adorable discovery. researches realized it was a new breed when it was not able to mate with other olingos. there are some in the u.s. as well. >> it has some claws on it. >> and very small. >> sounds like a drink in the summer. time now for a look ahead. schools open today in moore, oklahoma. a decision is due today on medical marijuana in new jersey. governor chris chrisraigslishri expected to say whether or not he will sign it. happy birthday to madonna, kathie lee gifford. coming up, luke bryan performs life on the plaza, and this sunday, after a federal judge stopped the stop and frisk policy, david gregory will sit down with ray kelly. keep it here for more news and sports

he's been talking to kirsten gillibrand. you imagine those folks probably will not vote for this, the reauthorization of the voting rights act or any more sort of preclearance because they feel like it would stigmatize their own backyard. >> here's the thing on that, though, here again, you've got this conundrum where you have all good work going on, believe everybody is sincere but then, again, they've got those dog whistle politics going on, stoking up their own base against what they say they're trying to work on. >> this is a catch 22, right? which is we need bipartisan support, especially in the house to get this through. we can't frame this exclusively as an i.d. debate. if we do that, it will alienate the gop and moderates here. it's also not the real problem. the real problem that preclearance prevented was local discrimination. 85% of the objections were of courses to local changes. that's what we're concerned about. that's what's not being covered by the national media. that's what local voters do, they just don't

they may be the victim's attacker so one of the things that senator kirsten gillibrand is pointing outt is to take that line of reporting outside of the line of command. the push back from officers who want to preserve their power and want to preserve the way things are is it will disrupt discipline and order to remove this reporting through the chain of command. i'll let senator gillibrand respond to that. >> i don't know how you can say that having 19,000 sexual assaults and rapes a year is discipline and order. i do not understand how you can say that of those 19,000 cases, to only have approximately 2400 even reported because the victims tell us that they are afraid to report because of retaliation and the blame they will get and the scorn they will get from their colleagues is order and discipline. i really cannot understand how 2400 cases, only 240 of which go to trial can be resolved and you believing that that authority is giving you discipline and order. it is the exact opposite of discipline and order. >> that is such a strong indictment there. i'm really glad you have pulled

please welcome back to the show, senator gillibrand. glad for to you be here. (cheers and applause) >> senator, you yourself have a history of taking on important albeit narrow bills like, there is a bill, don't ask, don't tell. what was it about this that made you want to do something other than the huge, horrific evidence. >> well, it really was the personal stories of some victims. i couldn't believe how these men and women who want knock but to defend our country to stand for our values an even die for our country were being subjected to this, not by an enemy abroad but within their own ranks. and i was so heart broken that they even said things like i could survive the rape but what i con survive was the commanding officers, the people in my ranks not having my back, not believing mement and for 26,000 cases to take place last year, in less than 1% prosecuted, it's outrage us. and that's what we're faced with. >> is what we just saw part of the problem? you look at those old white predominantly male faces. that you are going up against in the extreme there

can't rg there aren't good things real estate kelly has done and why chuck schumer and kristen gillibrand suggesting he should become the homeland security secretary. when i'm mayor and ray kelly is my commissioner or anybody else they will have to do stop and frisk only in a constitutional way and unconstitutional stops will end and next week, we will override a veto of mayor bloomberg's and we will put in place permanent monitoring of the police department of its policies and practices. a step that it is going to address the abuse of stop and frisk and make sure we don't have anything like this in the future. with all due respect to my opponents, all of whom, except for one, john lew would say what i say. john would get rid of it and everybody else would keep it and modify it. no one else has actually gotten changes put in place. next week, when we override this veto my colleagues and i will actually have made legislative changes of reining in this program. it's easy to say this and that is wrong but it's hard to implement solution. that's what i've done and do again next week. >> how d

what exactly would you and senator gillibrand do? what would you do on this? >> we would keep hit in the military but take the decision making away from the commander who had no legal training the and put it into the hands of a prosecutor to evaluate whether or not the case should be charged. when you have the ability right now under the uniform code of military justice to have a general overturn a court-martial where there has been a conviction for sexual assault, we have a today that doesn't work. and it is rigged on if -- in favor of the assailant not the victim. so by taking it out of the chain of command, keeping hit in the military, creating a separate office or allowing the prosecutor to make the decision will have a huge saliatory effect and be consistent with what other countries like the u.k., australia, israel have done and done very effectively. >> schieffer: let me ask you about something else before i let you go. the "washington post" reported last week that the national security agency often broke the rules on secrecy. that there were more viola

. >>> new york senator kirsten gillibrand has inked a book deal. it will be both a memoir and call to action for women to become more involved in politics. financial terms have not been disclosed. >>> and south carolina governor nikki haley will finally announce plans to run for a second term. she's seen her poll numbers slip in recent months. her democratic opponent has already announced plans to challenge her again. >>> and that's your morning's dish of "scrambled politics." >>> and our first look at the weather, i'm joined by bill karins. >> morning. rainy tuesday. i know. nap day. >> well, maybe. >> if we should be so lucky. >> it's not happening for me either. this morning we're going to deal with some travel issues out there for a lot of us. bring the umbrella if it's not raining already. flash flooding problems. flash flood watched for about 10 million or maybe even 20 million now that we've added new york city. oklahoma city to little rock, west virginia into d.c. and new york. a huge area of rain developed overnight covering all of the sou

martin o'malley made noise he's interested, joe biden, and kristen gillibrand, elizabeth warren, a lotf buzz, and governor cuomo from new york. a lot of talk. and let me not forgot joe biden. he will call me this afternoon and remind me. it's too early to handicap the race, if hillary clinton gets into the race, there will be a coronation of her because there are so many democrats who last time around supported her, who i think are anxious to see her out there again. >> i read your brother, mayor of san antonio, heading to iowa as well. you accompanying him? >> he's not running for anything. he's headed out to the harkin steak fry in september. >> a lot of tilling of the ground. let me bring this back to you, congressman, because it seems there's a brewing potential civil war inside the republican party. you heard sarah palin last night said she was on the team of rand paul versus chris christie. >> there's a lot of competition out there. with regard to the democratic side, i seem to remember in 2007, this was hillary's nomination. obama may run just to be ready in 2016. the point bein

. >> reporter: on capitol hill lawmakers like kiersten gillibrand are promoting administration taking it out of the hands of the military commanders. at a hearing this summer with top military brass gillibrand argued they were out of touch. >> not every single commander can discontinue zbish between a sexual assault. >> our goals should be to hold commanders more accountable. not render them less able to correct the crisis. >> now, the pentagon's proposal of course, would keep those decisions within the military's discretion. so anthony and norah, these efforts are not clear to show they're in front of this are going to satisfy congress. >> thank you, jan. >>> police along four western states including canada and mexico are on the search for joe dimaggio. he's suspected of kidnapping hannah anderson after setting the family home on fire. inside were found the burned remains of her mother christina and her brother ethan. >>> among them apple's ceo tim cook. they have been reaching out to industry leaders about privacy concerns over the controversy surrounding the nsa program. >> "the n

kristen gillibrand trying to do the same thing you are, take the prosecution of these crimes from themmand. the senate is very divided. this time, it's not not along party lines. how do you see this breaking down politically? >> we are seeing growing support among our republican colleagues on taking it out of the chain of command and that is the good news. on the house side, the letter i've written to the chair is to just get us to have a hearing on chain of command so that the issue can be aired on the house side. they have really shut down the opportunity for a robust discussion, debate, and exploration of the issue. and i'm hoping now, as we garner more support on the republican side in this letter, that we will see the chair take the action to hold a hearing on the issue. >> congresswoman jackie spear, thank you joining us. >>> today's mixed jobs reports has wall street pulling back a bit after the dow and s&p reached highs yesterday. is this pull-back entirely related to the jobs report? >> it is. interesting to see this, especially after the markets hit all-time highs. the feder

. >> the tenacity is in large part due to senator gillibrandivities i think actually it's not just senatori brandt. on the other side senator mccaskill has been pushing a different it seems to be a genuine effort within the congress to figure out which of these approaches is actually going to be the best for preventing sexual assaults in the military. i think it's an issue that's being taken serially, because you have so many women engaging with it. we saw with the implementation of don't ask/don't tell, which is so much smoother, when the top brass in the military says, no, we're going to do there, have our culture this way and take it seriously, they can push those changes. the question is, can they do it on this issue? >> i would i say the adjudication process is one thing, but one of the great points you raise it is about thinking about the women you serve with differently, and generally thinking about women differently. >> in all walks of life. >> joy made a great point, a huge number of the attacks are again men. these are people not just women. >> it's being brought to the forein a

but democratic senators amy klobuchar and kristen gillibrand could make the list of possible candidatesin des moines for us today. her list got started a half an hour ago. casey, good morning. i know you know that stephanie shrok was on this program yesterday. saying their polling shows iowa voters are ready to elect a female president. what are you hearing from the people there today? >> the women primarily who are gathered here today are very interested in seeing exactly that happen. you'll remember in 2008, this is the state where hillary's campaign first faltered and people haven't forgotten that. iowa is only one of two states never elected a woman to a federal office or to the governorship. the other is mississippi. the women that i've talked to here this morning, are eager to see that change. >> i asked stephanie yesterday if this forum is not so much about a woman president but about hillary clinton. here is ma what she said about that. >> we do hope that hillary clinton will make a decision here and we would like to see her run, but the truth is we also have an incredible list

martin oh maly made noise he's interested, joe biden, and kristen gillibrand, elizabeth warren, a lotf buzz, and governor cuomo from new york. and joe biden, he will call me this afternoon and remind me. it's too early to handicap the race, if hillary clinton gets into the race, there will be a coronation of her because there are so many democrats who last time around supported her, who i think are anxious to see her out there again p. >> i read your brother heading to iowa as well. you accompanying him? >> he's not running for anything. he's headed out to the harkin steak fry in september. >> let me bring this back to you, because it seems there's a brewing potential civil war inside the republican party. sara palin last night said she was on team rand paul versus chris christie. >> there's a lot of competition out there. with regard to the democratic side, i seem to remember in 2007, this was hillary's nomination. obama may run just to be ready in 2016. the point being you never know. i think that'srue where we are with the republicans. i don't think you could say. i would never hav

new york senator kirsten gillibrand and others want to rest the control for military commanders, instead leading independent military prosecutors decided the case goes to trial. estimated survey 26,000 people were sexually assaulted in the armed forces last year. the number of actually reported sexual assaults for the pentagon's 2012 fiscal year was roughly 3400. of those, only 190 were center court-martial proceeding. ecuador has dropped a plan to preserve swaths of the amazon rain forest from oil drilling by having rich countries they do not to drill breed in a speech a saiday, president corre the plan to say parts of the national park had raised only a fraction of the money sought. a new report commissioned by the pentagon has found none of the 107 nuclear reactors in the u.s. are adequately secured against potential terrorist attack. the current level of security required of civilian run reactors fails to guard against an onslaught i any more than a small number of attackers. among the most vulnerable reactors listed is one less than 25 miles from the white house. are endingefenders

janet napalitano, kirsten gillibrand. this is about 16, 20, 24, 28.s is about the first woman president and then many more to come after that. >> let me ask you about '16 especially. it is the next one. >> the next one. hillary clinton hasn't said if she'll run. if she doesn't is your argument that it is time for a woman oh or is it just about finding the best canada data for women's issues even if it is a man? >> the truth is we need to find the best candidate to be president of the united states. let's make it clear. this isn't about women and men. this is about having a great leader. what we have seen in the polling, we pulled battleground state voters. what they are saying is that they are ready and willing and want to see a woman president. they actually feel in the poll that women leaders bring the right judgment, right priorities and put country and family before partisan politics. in this environment in washington, d.c. you can see where the american voters are here trying to get more women elected into office. >> i'm sure you have watched wit

that really have just jumped in feet first and really making their mark in the senate, kristen gillibrand and elizabeth warren and those are getting out there taking on the heavy issues instead of meekly sitting in the back benches to get their feet wet and women are jumping in feet first and that is great and gives them a chance to move up the pecking order a lot faster and even if they don't run for president reach chairmanships of committees and things like that. >> are you seeing the number of women candidates is inspiring more women, not necessarily to run, but to get involved, to get involved in fund-raising, those kinds of things like that? >> i think so. women want to know they can make a difference. the thing is with some of the things being passed estate in state legislature the onerohon n women to vote more easy than before. when you feel challenged or when you feel that something could be from that you thought was a constitutional right that is a very activating force all around. >> are we seeing you on a bus stumping for hillary? >> talk to ed rendell. >> he was in here earli

and so is senator kirsten gillibrand. ted cruz comes in at 46.8 degrees.e is also on the cover of "new york" magazine this week in an article about the happy hothead. joining me now, the author of that new "new york" magazine piece, benjamin wallace wells, contributing editor for "new york witt mrngz and nick acachella, editor and publisher of politifacts new jersey. benjamin wallace wells, what about this? what did you call him? the happy hothead. i didn't know hotheads were happy. >> well, this one certainly is. you know, this has been an interesting campaign to watch. the piece that i did is sort of an observational study of him on the trail. and what he's running right now i think is an identity campaign. he's not running a traditional election campaign because he's up by 35 points. so what he's out to do, i think, is to convince the republican base nationally that its idea of populist could be expanded a little bit. so traditionally when we've thought of a republican populist we've thought of someone whose politics are very conservative, libertarian,

senator kirsten gillibrand wants to take it out of the chain of command.hy should it not be so if half of women do not want to go to their commanders to report this? >> yeah, a victim doesn't have to go to the commander. there are at least nine other places where a victim can go, and, by the way, we are doing other things other than trying to help the senators that are interested in legislative changes to the uniform code of military justice. there's things we can do ourselves. we can, as the air force has done, we can accept a program for special victims counsels. there's -- >> you're looking at all sorts -- >> we're looking at every possible way and open-minded to every single option. >> okay. wrapping up right now, you had a grandchild, the eighth grandchild this week, right? >> i did. >> and your job was to do what? >> well, my job was to baby-sit the newest grandson's 2-year-old twin brothers, which actually was probably the most difficult thing i've done since i've been chairman. >> you were telling me that one of the things your grandsons and all yo

and the senate has not reached an agreement with kirsten gillibrand who wants to take the sexual assaultof the chain of command. yesterday at camp pendleton, the president brought the issue to the front lines in front of the marines. >> our safety is for everyone in uniform and i want you to hear it directly from me, the commander in chief. it undermines what this military stands for, and it undermines what the marine corps stands for when sexual assault takes place within our units. >>> market your business locally and leave brochures and business cards everywhere. for more smart advice watch "your business" sundays at 7:30 a.m. on msnbc. wow! that's great. if you find a lower advertised price they'll match it at the register. really... yeah, in a "jif". that's walmart's everyday low price. seriously?! yeah! now you have everything you need for back to school. that was easy. more school for your money. guaranteed. ok, here you go. what?! that's the walmart low price guarantee backed by ad match. save time and money getting your kids ready for school. bring in receipts from your local st

senator mccaskill of missouri and senator gillibrand are on opposite sides of this issue, and i try not to get on the middle of that one. yes, ma'am. there is a microphone. >> thank you so much for listening to me. i work for an amazing company that services the hard-of- hearing individuals in the country, and it is an amazing service, and the fcc is proposing regulations that are against the ada act of 1990. they are wanting to have individuals push a captioning button on each time they use a phone, and a lot of time they do not remember and they miss the first sentence because they do not push the button. they want us to charge our consumers $75 a phone when they are already paying for the broadband internet and phone service. i am hoping that something can be done because we help individuals every day and we help the military and all those individuals that are hard of hearing. i hope you can take some action. >> i will have my staff interview you immediately of this problem. i was unaware of it. i will be glad to address it. but i will just say the americans with disability act i thi

now, your colleague, senator gillibrand, also active on this. she laid out the case for taking it to the outside of the chain command, which i believe you disagree with. let's hear from her and get your response. >> what victims tell us is they don't trust the chain of command. even those commanders you showed a picture of, they testified and have said that they don't trust us, we don't trust the chain of command. the problem is clear. we want to create an objective review by a trained military prosecutor, a lawyer, trained to weigh evidence and make the fundamental decision, does the case go forward. >> what is the right answer according to you? >> well, the right answer is making sure these cases do go forward. and here's the problem you have. if you have outside lawyers that are making this decision, sometimes a half a continent away from the unit, if they say no, it's over -- and we know for a fact, david, over the last two years, almost 100 cases, the lawyers said no. these are tough cases. cases. a lot of prosecutors get way too focused on