martin griffiths' widow gina soke to it. martin griffiths' widow gina spoke to bbc _ it. rama - it. martin griffiths' widow gina spoke to bbc panorama two . it. martin griffiths' widow gina - spoke to bbc panorama two years ago. the worst thing for me was seeing my chiidren— the worst thing for me was seeing my children having — the worst thing for me was seeing my children having to _ the worst thing for me was seeing my children having to see _ the worst thing for me was seeing my children having to see their— the worst thing for me was seeing my children having to see their dad - children having to see their dad die. children having to see their dad die and — children having to see their dad die and it _ children having to see their dad die. and it was _ children having to see their dad die. and it was purely- children having to see their dad die. and it was purely down - children having to see their dad die. and it was purely down toi children having to see their dad i die. and it was purely down to the post office — die. and it was purely down to the post office. the

~ _ for sending mr griffiths' widow, gina~ if— for sending mr griffiths' widow, gina~ if we _ fore post office would like to offer you a discretionary payment in the _ to offer you a discretionary payment in the sum _ to offer you a discretionary payment in the sum of £140,000. that is equivalent— in the sum of £140,000. that is equivalent to the sum offered to sub—postmasters who choose to leave"~ — sub—postmasters who choose to leave"~ i— sub—postmasters who choose to leave". i note you have made an application — leave". i note you have made an application on behalf of your husband to the initial complaint of un mediation scheme. when a discretionary payment is offered, the normal process is for it to be made _ the normal process is for it to be made in — the normal process is for it to be made in full and final settlement of any claims — made in full and final settlement of any claims that a sub—postmaster had against _ any claims that a sub—postmaster had against post office limited. so this has that— against post office limited. so this has that was normal, but the terms on w

she admitted to the inquiry that the post office asked gina griffiths, the wife of martin griffiths,40,000 pounds, after mr griffiths killed himself in 2013. he'd been accused of having a shortfall in his accounts. the inquiry counsel, jason beer kc, asked her to explain the request. it's the long and short of it that you had a settlement on the basis of £1a0,000 payment, which figure applies to a completely different type of loss, you ensured that there was a nondisclosure agreement attached to that settlement and you agreed to the staging of payments to act as an incentive using money as a tool to keep the matter hushed up? it was never to keep the matter hushed up. any settlement agreement that the post office ever entered into was done with a nondisclosure agreement. why? because that was just the way they operated. take a step back, from the answer of an automaton. why does the post office always insist on nondisclosure? because that was how they tied up the agreement. but why? i just accepted that that was the standard approach. for all agreements. why does the post office alwa

she admitted that the post office asked gina griffiths, the wife of martin griffiths, to sign a nondisclosurethe requests. is the lona and her to explain the requests. is the long and the _ her to explain the requests. is the long and the short _ her to explain the requests. is the long and the short of _ her to explain the requests. is the long and the short of it _ her to explain the requests. is the long and the short of it you - long and the short of it you procured a settlement of £140,000 payment, which applied to a different type of loss? you ensured there was a nondisclosure agreement attached to that settlement. you agree to the staging of payments to act as an incentive, using money as act as an incentive, using money as a tool to keep the matter hushed up. it was never to keep the matter hushed — it was never to keep the matter hushed up. any settlement agreement was done _ hushed up. any settlement agreement was done with a nondisclosure agreement. why? that was the way they operated. agreement. why? that was the way they operated-— agreement. why? that was the way they operated.

griffiths' case was hushed up? it wasn't something i discussed with gina. it didn't even enter my head.re you represented today in the sense that there is a lawyer in the room who can assist? yes. the postmasters' barristers got straight to it. you're worried, aren't you, that if you now admit that you knew about remote access way back in 2010, you will be liable for perjury, isn't that the truth? no. are you being dishonest about this now, or were you inexcusably negligent at the time? i am not being dishonest about it. you were deliberately suppressing the truth, you were allowing decent people to be prosecuted on the back of a flawed it system, weren't you? no, i would never do that. you would do anything to protect the post office. no, that is not right. and had there been any repercussions after a judge found she'd misled him, defending the post office? did you get your bonus that year, in 2019, mrs van den bogerd? yes. i see. so, despite a finding in the high court that basically you lied to the high court, you got your bonus? yes. an emotional moment in the room too, in the case

griffith's case was hushed up? i mean, it wasn't something that i discussed with gina _ and her brother, and it didn't even enter myhe said i it was accepted then ijust allowed it to continue. he says hashed out because the post office agreed to stage payments in return for conte of devonshire. the widow has two sign a nondisclosure agreement and drop other legal legal claims. subsequently, there were questions from the victims lawyers themselves, their questions were far more impassioned unless clinical because they represent the victims whose were destroyed by this. one lawyer brought up the fact that van de bogerd was found to have misled the court and so he accused her of lying under oath, something that she denies. he questioned how she could have missed a key e—mail about the integrity of the horizon system in 2010. she says that she genuinely didn't read it and this is how he iraq reacted. didn't read it and this is how he iraq reacted-— didn't read it and this is how he irat reacted. , , ., ,., iraq reacted. genuine is doing some re iraq reacted. genuine is doing some pretty heavy — iraq reacted. genuine is

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