she said call gina kell she will help you. i know she had none of this in mind that we would ultimately be married or anything else. [ laughter ] but cathy was the kind of person who connecting people was important. she had such a heart for gina. just living across town from us and with two boys about the same age of our children, she knew that being a stun born man that i would probably hunker town and try to isolate myself and she was really in her last hours trying to connect us. ultimately we did, gina was kind enough to show up at cathy's funeral and she sat with me for a while. i asked her about her children, of course, how they were doing. and at some point i looked at her and i said, you know, you and i only just met but i think you are the only one i know here tonight. >> mike: wow. interesting. while your wife cathy was telling to you talk to gina. matt was giving, yet, another video that i think sort of helps to understand how this story got together. >> mom, respected somebody, marry enough somebody to marry them a