gina menzies is still with me at dublin castle.her potentially, there would be a role for women priests in the church, whether the catholic church would take that step. but in the words of father brendan hoban, one of the members of the association of catholic priests, there is here what he calls a eucharistic famine, which is the catholic priest training seminary here in ireland. there were fewer than ten recruits, if i can use that word, in the last intake. it was a building designed to accommodate 500 trainee priests each year, but fewer than ten. so something has to be done to get new blood into the parishes of ireland? there are two things there. the organisation i belong to absolutely supports the desire to have women ordained in the church. but it is almost broader than that. the whole understanding of ministry for the 21st century needs to be looked at. i don‘t see merit. pope francis has constantly talked about the need to declare archives —— declericalise the church. so to have more priests is not the answer. let'sjust ch