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it had not been a high-profile job, until gina raimondo turned the second tier agency into a center of job creation, manufacturing, and national security. once the governor of rhode island, raimondo at 53, seems to have come out of nowhere to become a rising star of the democratic party and of the biden administration. as commerce secretary, she's running new projects that could touch the lives of every american. and she's helping lead the expanding cold war with china and confront russia's aggression in ukraine. the battlefield for both those conflicts is technology. >> if you think about national security today, in 2024, it's not just tanks and missiles. it's technology. it's semiconductors. it's a.i. it's drones. and the commerce department is at the red hot center of technology. >> and at the red hot center, a global chip war that ramped up, says gina raimondo, when russia invaded ukraine. >> the commerce department stopped all semiconductor chips from being sold to russia. every drone, every missile, every tank has semiconductors in them. and you know, lesley, you know we're being
it had not been a high-profile job, until gina raimondo turned the second tier agency into a center of job creation, manufacturing, and national security. once the governor of rhode island, raimondo at 53, seems to have come out of nowhere to become a rising star of the democratic party and of the biden administration. as commerce secretary, she's running new projects that could touch the lives of every american. and she's helping lead the expanding cold war with china and confront russia's...
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joining us right now gina raimondo. as a surrogate for the vice president kamala harris' campaign and commerce secretary, thank you very much for being here this morning. i realize you're here as a surrogate for the vice president's campaign, but there's so much news of the day i feel we have to ask you about. i wanted to start with this potential strike at the ports expected to take place tonight at midnight. obviously, this is the first time since the 1970s that you would see strikes all up and down the east coast and the gulf ports. what would this mean for commerce in this country? what would this mean for businesses if we go into the strike and what do you know about it? >> yeah. good morning. so as you said. i'm here in my personal capacity, and the i would say, look. it's not a secret that this would be, depending on how long it lasts, could be incredibly disruptive to commerce. as you well know. you know that so much commerce moves through the ports, and if it goes a few days, i think, i'm sure, companies probab
joining us right now gina raimondo. as a surrogate for the vice president kamala harris' campaign and commerce secretary, thank you very much for being here this morning. i realize you're here as a surrogate for the vice president's campaign, but there's so much news of the day i feel we have to ask you about. i wanted to start with this potential strike at the ports expected to take place tonight at midnight. obviously, this is the first time since the 1970s that you would see strikes all up...
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currently minimal use of chinese or russian—made software in american cars, but commerce secretary gina raimondoe plans would reduce the chances of us drivers having their personal data stolen. chinese officials said the concept of national security was being broadened to unfairly target chinese firms. the proposed ban is part of a much broader struggle between the us and china, the world's two biggest economies, overthe technologies of the future. boeing has offered factory workers a 30% pay rise over four years, as it tries to end a strike which has shut down its manufacturing facilities in the us pacific northwest. the plane—maker also offered to reinstate a performance bonus and improve retirement benefits if workers accept the offer by friday. the strike, which began earlier this month, involves over 30,000 workers in portland and seattle. india's prime minister narendra modi has wrapped up a three—day trip to the united states. the two leaders agreed to work together on several issues, including setting up a semiconductor factory in india. the bbc�*s archana shukla has more. calls to inves
currently minimal use of chinese or russian—made software in american cars, but commerce secretary gina raimondoe plans would reduce the chances of us drivers having their personal data stolen. chinese officials said the concept of national security was being broadened to unfairly target chinese firms. the proposed ban is part of a much broader struggle between the us and china, the world's two biggest economies, overthe technologies of the future. boeing has offered factory workers a 30% pay...
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we were talking about gina raimondo that there are a lot of other people.ote, "i tried my best and gave the exemption i could muster." who was he doing that for? they way he thought he was doing it for someone. speech is speaking of someone else held accountable for their words, president biden was asked on "the view was quote the rhetoric of the assassination attempts and you will not believe biden's response. stay with us. >> look, trump -- >> careful. [laughter] ♪ ♪ just soak, activate and wash. to clean, tone and refresh. that's a 3x better clean. olay. life, diabetes, there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response. uniquely designed with carbsteady. glucerna. bring on the day. ♪ ♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food progr
we were talking about gina raimondo that there are a lot of other people.ote, "i tried my best and gave the exemption i could muster." who was he doing that for? they way he thought he was doing it for someone. speech is speaking of someone else held accountable for their words, president biden was asked on "the view was quote the rhetoric of the assassination attempts and you will not believe biden's response. stay with us. >> look, trump -- >> careful. [laughter]...
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. >>> in the next hour we'll speak to gina raimondo.emarket winners and losers in the s&p 500. "squawk box" is coming right back. you didn't start a business just to keep the lights on. lucky for you, shopify built the just one-tapping, ridiculously fast-acting, sky-high sales stacking champion of checkouts. businesses that want to win, win with shopify. boom! at&t internet that's why i'm chief technology officer but all you did was plug it in, you didn't do anything neither did you exactly exactly exactly exactly impressed? honestly, a little exactly (slurp) >>> sources telling cnbc that norfolk southern's board is investigating allegations against alan shaw against engaging in work place. they're looking at possible conduct that violated the company's code of ethics. shaw did not return requests from cnbc for comment. the stock up about 27% for the year. >>> welcome back. x,en we come back on "squawk bo" author yuval noah harari is here next. what is cirkul? cirkul is the fuel you need to take flight. cirkul is the energy that gets yo
. >>> in the next hour we'll speak to gina raimondo.emarket winners and losers in the s&p 500. "squawk box" is coming right back. you didn't start a business just to keep the lights on. lucky for you, shopify built the just one-tapping, ridiculously fast-acting, sky-high sales stacking champion of checkouts. businesses that want to win, win with shopify. boom! at&t internet that's why i'm chief technology officer but all you did was plug it in, you didn't do anything...
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administration will hold a summit here with nine countries and the european union commerce secretary gina raimondo says a major focus will be setting international standards to fight deep fakes. >> a lot more coming up here. a bay area based company defrauded out of millions, an ex-employee now accused of stealing the money to pay for pet cloning. i was only 11 and they were telling me that, you know, my body is trying to kill me. >> she battled a rare form of cancer. and one tonight she got a super sized party to celebrate. >> and a cat goes missing on a camping trip, then turns up hundreds of miles away. the feline mystery. one family is now trying to solve. >> all right. no mystery here. coming up is a look at what's coming up tonight on jimmy kimmel live! right after abc seven news at 11. jimmy. >> thanks, dan. and amna tonight. let's get mad together i feel like you might have invented hamilton like they made somehow with two m's. you were the first guy. oh that's come on the first guy. oh that's come on now sure, i'm a paid actor, and this is not a real company, but there is no way to fake h
administration will hold a summit here with nine countries and the european union commerce secretary gina raimondo says a major focus will be setting international standards to fight deep fakes. >> a lot more coming up here. a bay area based company defrauded out of millions, an ex-employee now accused of stealing the money to pay for pet cloning. i was only 11 and they were telling me that, you know, my body is trying to kill me. >> she battled a rare form of cancer. and one...
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administration will hold a summit here with nine countries and the european union commerce secretary gina raimondo says a major focus will be setting international standards to fight deep fakes. >> a lot more coming up here. a bay area based company defrauded out of millions, an ex-employee now accused of stealing the money to pay for pet cloning. i was only 11 and they were telling me that, you know, my body is trying to kill me. >> she battled a rare form of cancer. and one tonight she got a super sized party to celebrate. >> and a cat goes missing on a camping trip, then turns up hundreds of miles away. the feline mystery. one family is now trying to solve. >> all right. no mystery here. coming up is a look at what's coming up tonight on jimmy kimmel live! right after abc seven news at 11. jimmy. >> thanks, dan. and amna tonight. let's get mad together i feel like you might have invented hamilton like they made somehow with two m's. you were the first guy. oh that's come on now grow the system, exploit the system. take mark farrell's record. after receiving the largest ethics fine in city histo
administration will hold a summit here with nine countries and the european union commerce secretary gina raimondo says a major focus will be setting international standards to fight deep fakes. >> a lot more coming up here. a bay area based company defrauded out of millions, an ex-employee now accused of stealing the money to pay for pet cloning. i was only 11 and they were telling me that, you know, my body is trying to kill me. >> she battled a rare form of cancer. and one...
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commerce secretary gina raimondo reached out to executives at both of those companies and ask them toder manufacturing into his ohio plant. and the other major customers that intel has announced for its global manufacturing operation. haven't gone to full production yet either. caroline: it's also extraordinary because you would've thought the hunger, the desire for ai related chips is such that intel would manage to be there. we clearly see that hunger for the ai. talking about how sam altman is also busy talking to, together with the infrastructure request. >> this tens of billions of dollars vision has been in the works for months now and we are starting to see some details take shape in what altman pictures of some kind of a compliment to the chips act building out data centers, energy infrastructure and other u.s. projects with a global alliance of investors to sort of leverage the resources needed to make ai possible. if you think about the chips that intel makes, those of the inputs for artificial intelligence and part of the plan involves receiving investment from investors in
commerce secretary gina raimondo reached out to executives at both of those companies and ask them toder manufacturing into his ohio plant. and the other major customers that intel has announced for its global manufacturing operation. haven't gone to full production yet either. caroline: it's also extraordinary because you would've thought the hunger, the desire for ai related chips is such that intel would manage to be there. we clearly see that hunger for the ai. talking about how sam altman...
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. ♪ just yesterday evening they let me know i was bumped ♪ ♪ by somebody named gina raimondo ♪ >> announcerthe late show with stephen colbert" live in chicago! tonight... barack to the future! plus, stephen welcomes speaker emerita nancy pelosi and house democratic leader hakeem jeffries! with a special appearance by laura benanti. featuring louis cato and "the late show" band. now, live from the auditorium in chicago, it's stephen colbert! [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ >> stephen: hello! hello! [cheers and applause] have a good, have a good. tuesday. happy tuesday, happy tuesday. hello! >> stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! stephen! >> stephen: thank you, everybody. isn't that nice? ♪ ♪ now we're good. now we're grounded, baby. [cheering] that's nice. you don't get that every day. thank you, everybody. please have a seat. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. up here, down there, everybody in the middle. welcome. thank you, my friends. please. relax yourself. welcome one and all in here, out there, to "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. ladies and gentlemen.
. ♪ just yesterday evening they let me know i was bumped ♪ ♪ by somebody named gina raimondo ♪ >> announcerthe late show with stephen colbert" live in chicago! tonight... barack to the future! plus, stephen welcomes speaker emerita nancy pelosi and house democratic leader hakeem jeffries! with a special appearance by laura benanti. featuring louis cato and "the late show" band. now, live from the auditorium in chicago, it's stephen colbert! [cheers and applause] ♪...
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intel at the top getting a boost from gina raimondo touting the production chevron in the number twoime to get a check on the top corporate stories, including new regulatory troubles for one regu bank bertha coombs is here. >> good morning, frank shares of wells fargo is looking to bounce back after dropping 4% yesterday after the lapse in the anti-money laundering and financial crimes risk practices. the office of the comptroller of the currency which did not fine wells says the bank has agreed to fix controls. it added it is imposing a requirement that wells fargo seek permission before expanding into the medium or high-risk areas without naming them. >>> former president trump teasing the launch of the new digital asset project. trump says he will host a live stream on elon musk's x platform monday for the launch of a project backed by him and his sons, don junior and eric, called world liberty financial trump has previously teased the platform as one for botrrowing and lending. >>> and chatgpt hits 11 million paying users citing information from the coo the information adds that
intel at the top getting a boost from gina raimondo touting the production chevron in the number twoime to get a check on the top corporate stories, including new regulatory troubles for one regu bank bertha coombs is here. >> good morning, frank shares of wells fargo is looking to bounce back after dropping 4% yesterday after the lapse in the anti-money laundering and financial crimes risk practices. the office of the comptroller of the currency which did not fine wells says the bank has...
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. >> i think front and center for altman is probably gina raimondo. i think that's his key point person we heard. but i think he's probably dealing with people across government and i'm sure he's thinking about what would it mean if there's a change in administration going forward to kind of really smooth over the path towards these investments. >> bloomberg's seth who leads the ai coverage. china is complicating the electric vehicle outlook for wall street with morgan stanley changing its tune on the auto sector at large. analyst anticipating a stellar quarter for tesla and later today i'll be heading to meta connect where the company is likely to show off some new vr and mixed reality technology. i will sit down with their cto for an exclusive interview with meta-shares currently trading very near to a fresh record high. it is a lot more to come this is bloomberg technology. ♪ okay, team! oh, thank you so much i couldn't have done it without you. honestly, i don't do a whole lot here. i'm really just here for the at&t internet, it's super-fast so, a
. >> i think front and center for altman is probably gina raimondo. i think that's his key point person we heard. but i think he's probably dealing with people across government and i'm sure he's thinking about what would it mean if there's a change in administration going forward to kind of really smooth over the path towards these investments. >> bloomberg's seth who leads the ai coverage. china is complicating the electric vehicle outlook for wall street with morgan stanley...
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pointing to this from commerce secretary gina raimondo today. >> let's extinguish him for good. >> youean vote him out? >> yes. vote him out. >> returning to butler, pennsylvania on october 5th. his first time back since the first attempted assassination. >> going back to butler by the way. we're going to go back and finish our speech. >> the campaign describing his life being compared as, quote: an act of divine providence. >> and, bret, president trump also called out iran's president directly today. the irony of him being on u.s. soil this week at the u.n. general assembly surrounded by security all while his country threatens to kill the former president. bret? >> bret: aishah hasnie in north carolina. aishah, thanks. a high ranking officer in the justice department is suggesting something -- some trump supporters have been saying for years that was more to the 2021 capitol riot. the security around it than we have been told. republican accusations that the biden-harris administration has weaponed the federal government were the subject of a house subcommittee hearing today and one
pointing to this from commerce secretary gina raimondo today. >> let's extinguish him for good. >> youean vote him out? >> yes. vote him out. >> returning to butler, pennsylvania on october 5th. his first time back since the first attempted assassination. >> going back to butler by the way. we're going to go back and finish our speech. >> the campaign describing his life being compared as, quote: an act of divine providence. >> and, bret, president...
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commerce secretary gina raimondo says a major focus will be setting international standards to fightco's biggest conference of the year comes to a close today. dreamforce gearing up for that final day. abc seven news reporter gloria rodriguez at moscone center this morning. glory. the tech event is all about ai. now salesforce is promising to offer free ai training to anyone who wants it. >> that's right reggie. they're going to be doing that at their headquarters here in san francisco. that's going to start next year, and it's going to be for community ai training courses. here's a little bit more information about it. >> and we have dedicated floors where community members who might be scared of ai can come and get trained at no cost. >> and there will also be a dedicated floor there for employees to brush up on ai tools. and according to the san francisco standard, mayor london breed said she has received assurances that dreamforce will remain in san francisco next year, but she did not share specifics. so here's what's in store for today at dreamforce. ayesha curry is speaking on
commerce secretary gina raimondo says a major focus will be setting international standards to fightco's biggest conference of the year comes to a close today. dreamforce gearing up for that final day. abc seven news reporter gloria rodriguez at moscone center this morning. glory. the tech event is all about ai. now salesforce is promising to offer free ai training to anyone who wants it. >> that's right reggie. they're going to be doing that at their headquarters here in san francisco....
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calling out democrats for spewing dangerous rhetoric, pointing to this from commerce secretary gina raimondom going to send it back to you now, because i believe the former president is coming out now. but the campaign has been saying this is all happening to the former president because of the rhetoric, the dangerous rhetoric from the left. they pointed to a video clip earlier today where she says on msnbc's "morning joe," let's extinction for good. she's talking about the former president and she clarifies later she is saying to vote him out. >> john: we've got to the drop because the president is coming up. let's listen to what he has to say. ♪ ♪ oh, well, i guess we are going to be listening to lee greenwood for a little bit here. just as we wait for "god bless the usa" to play out, sandra, there is no sense of irony that the new iranian president is here in the united states, and he is receiving plenty of security to keep them safe during his visit to the united nations. at the same time, the regime that he heads up -- and the leader is the ayatollah -- is trying to take out the former
calling out democrats for spewing dangerous rhetoric, pointing to this from commerce secretary gina raimondom going to send it back to you now, because i believe the former president is coming out now. but the campaign has been saying this is all happening to the former president because of the rhetoric, the dangerous rhetoric from the left. they pointed to a video clip earlier today where she says on msnbc's "morning joe," let's extinction for good. she's talking about the former...
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commerce secretary gina raimondo, the energy secretary, jennifer granholm, national security adviser, and one other point here. this is a big day for a.i. later today, 8:00 p.m. eastern on abc, oprah is sitting down with sam altman and former microsoft ceo bill gates to talk about a.i. >> there's a lot going on here that i'm trying to write. i'm looking at jon, like, oprah now does a.i. taking on a.i. okay. got that one. it's great to see you, matt. thank you. but also, i mean, john, how fast does government work when it comes to staying in front of technology? >> oh, wicked fast fast. >> alright, overnight, the mtv video music awards, it was a show women dominated the winners list. >> there was an alien kiss, a flaming crossbow, and a call to vote a fan voted award and you voted for this. i appreciate it so much. and if you are over 18 please register to vote for something else recognize the person who was just speaking there. >> that was one taylor swift, cnn's elizabeth wagmeister is here with the highlights of this big night. elizabeth you know, i have heard of taylor swift before
commerce secretary gina raimondo, the energy secretary, jennifer granholm, national security adviser, and one other point here. this is a big day for a.i. later today, 8:00 p.m. eastern on abc, oprah is sitting down with sam altman and former microsoft ceo bill gates to talk about a.i. >> there's a lot going on here that i'm trying to write. i'm looking at jon, like, oprah now does a.i. taking on a.i. okay. got that one. it's great to see you, matt. thank you. but also, i mean, john, how...
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gina raimondo, who ir hes you kw the secretary of what is she's in commerce.that trump ought te extinguished. now, this is aftere ex two assassination attempts. one bullet hit him in the heados . and mika brzezinski, you know, tried to pull her backin the. n' but isn't this what the democrats i mean, they're just they just sayis wh, it's openly what mika says. oh, you mean vote them out? and she said, yeahhi, banish hi. gina knew exactly what she wasi. saying. she's a very smart woman. that was calculated. they're trying to create a hostile and violent environment. so somethingg toe a might or mat happen to donald trump. everybody knows that. now, jessica, don't think you should be talking about racism as a democrat becaust racimocrat be party wenr to keep your , your party afterh the civil war in which the democratic party losvil wart and during reconstruction, actually tried to prevent black people from voting. and then the klu klux cameg and along and started hanging black people to make a point and scare them outted hang of v. and then even today, when a b
gina raimondo, who ir hes you kw the secretary of what is she's in commerce.that trump ought te extinguished. now, this is aftere ex two assassination attempts. one bullet hit him in the heados . and mika brzezinski, you know, tried to pull her backin the. n' but isn't this what the democrats i mean, they're just they just sayis wh, it's openly what mika says. oh, you mean vote them out? and she said, yeahhi, banish hi. gina knew exactly what she wasi. saying. she's a very smart woman. that was...
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and this includes biden's idiotic commercethis secretary, gina raimondo, who justd called ms.. dnc for donald trump to be extinguished for good. >> take a look at what he says is the opposite. it's just another lie. >> another get here? let's extinguish him for good. we have an answer. we have a remarkably talented candidate who is sinceree , whos pragmatic, who's open. let's just get it donee. and extinguish >> >> i mean, vote him out. yes, absolutely. vote him outabso. >> donald trump has just survived. not one,s but two assassinsassa attempts, all while iran is tryinssg to the job. and they still didn't sweep the area around trump internationa trump l. and a member of biden's cabinet is calling for trump to be extinguished fobiner good.uid frankly, beyond irresponsible and by the way, secret service maybe bring her in and ask her what the she meant by. and it's not just raimondo on that hard hitting news show, the view. joe biden himself continued to dehumanize donald vie trump, even pretended to squish him like a bug lighted to assassinationbiden o squish >> maybe not the s
and this includes biden's idiotic commercethis secretary, gina raimondo, who justd called ms.. dnc for donald trump to be extinguished for good. >> take a look at what he says is the opposite. it's just another lie. >> another get here? let's extinguish him for good. we have an answer. we have a remarkably talented candidate who is sinceree , whos pragmatic, who's open. let's just get it donee. and extinguish >> >> i mean, vote him out. yes, absolutely. vote him outabso....
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. >>> joining us now, former governor of rhode island, honorable gina raimondo, appearing this morningay on the economy, because mike measure brought up a great question. polling is showing this is an issue where there is work that needs to be done by the harris/walz campaign. the question, is there a plan? what is the plan? what is the big picture vision? kamala harris has done interviews, there is another one being done today, i believe, with stephanie ruhle. but on the economy, we have heard her talk about small businesses, and giving them a lift. we heard her talk about helping homeowners with their down payments. these are great, but they are specifics. what is the overall vision that she is going to be talking about today that you know about kamala harris' plan for the economy? >> yeah, well, good morning. >> good morning. >> nice to be with you. her plan is really clear, bring down costs for middle class america and all americans. create more high-paying jobs for everyone, with or without a college degree. and most important stability. i mean, if -- talk to any business owner, a
. >>> joining us now, former governor of rhode island, honorable gina raimondo, appearing this morningay on the economy, because mike measure brought up a great question. polling is showing this is an issue where there is work that needs to be done by the harris/walz campaign. the question, is there a plan? what is the plan? what is the big picture vision? kamala harris has done interviews, there is another one being done today, i believe, with stephanie ruhle. but on the economy, we...
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maybe gina raimondo as commerce secretary but no inner circle person.ou hear from business all the time, biden doesn't take my call, unless it's a certain part of health care. >> so does a 28% rate interest you? >> yes. cap gains is for rich people. i like to cut to the chase. >> it's not 40%. it's not 39%. >> it's almost as if biden put out the straw man of a very high number and suddenly we've got a vice president who says, wait a second, that's a really high number. >> another version of upod. >> yes. it was underpromise and overdeliver. i look at what's going on, and i think, well, they have figured out the media. they have figured out that we can very quickly glom on to something like capital gains, make it look a little better. of course, the stuff has to go through congress, but i remember in a sweep, you're looking at different from what we see right now. i always feel -- what i know about is that capital gains is the -- the dominion of the rich. if you say that you're going to cut it from where biden is, you're perceived as being more moderate.
maybe gina raimondo as commerce secretary but no inner circle person.ou hear from business all the time, biden doesn't take my call, unless it's a certain part of health care. >> so does a 28% rate interest you? >> yes. cap gains is for rich people. i like to cut to the chase. >> it's not 40%. it's not 39%. >> it's almost as if biden put out the straw man of a very high number and suddenly we've got a vice president who says, wait a second, that's a really high number....
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but a lot of the same complaints from business leaders that they didn't feel like -- other than gina raimondon administration. interesting, though, kamala harris so far in her campaign has apparently been listening to business leaders, she adjusted the capital gains tax rate, she's done some other things that, again, a lot of people wouldn't have expected from her just three months ago. >> well, the truth is actually behind the scenes she's been meeting even before she became the de facto -- the nominee, she had been holding a whole number of informal off the record meals and other meetings with ceos in a way that, frankly, president biden himself had not been engaged in. you talked about obama earlier and the sort of frustration that ceos had with him. i think with biden it was even more pronounced because the view was that there was almost no contact, there was no real interaction so to see her with this kind of outreach i think is meaningful to some extent to the business community and i will note that in this "wall street journal" report which you are noting, the kicker of the story, who
but a lot of the same complaints from business leaders that they didn't feel like -- other than gina raimondon administration. interesting, though, kamala harris so far in her campaign has apparently been listening to business leaders, she adjusted the capital gains tax rate, she's done some other things that, again, a lot of people wouldn't have expected from her just three months ago. >> well, the truth is actually behind the scenes she's been meeting even before she became the de facto...