homeschoolers by doctor peter gray who was a professor and un- schooling advocate he and his colleague gina riley discovered most un- schoolers did spend time during their high school years taking committee college classes often getting an associates degree the same age their peers or get a high school diploma and then being able to enroll in a four-year e university transferring this credit saving quite a bit of money. that's an approach with skyrocketing tuition rates at universities. >> host: seems like the homeschool and the unschooled have grown exponentially in the last 20 years. is that saying something about public l education? >> homeschooling has grown tremendously over the past couple of decades you are right through the first year the u.s. department of education began tracking homeschoolers was 1998 at the time 855. that number stored to about 2 million just under 2 million in 2016. then over the past year we have seen a stripling of the homeschool rate from that pre-pandemic level the u.s. census bureau report released in february more than 11% of the overall school age population i