hundred or two hundred times the cost of a simple index investment do you think that was more just gina ryan mundo going wild with her fund then actually. oblon for pension funds as a whole. no i've stove's we've seen this the same issue in numerous states. kentucky had a similar problem. california has had problems with with investment fees as many as twelve different states have statutes that specifically exempt alternative investments from freedom of information type laws so people can't get information about how high the fees are or where they're invested so there are problems all over the country obviously were island is kind of a petri dish sort of state where they're experimenting with certain kinds of pension reform but these problems are being seen all over the country now you mentioned in your article that the fees to these pension fund managers roughly tracked the benefit cut to pension fund workers did the hedge funds performance improve over the alternative probably an index of mutual fund. well it depends on how you how you look at it i think last year actually the hedge funds underp