. ♪ shake it off, shake it off oooh-ooo♪ i'm sorry, gineed to zip back in there ever so often. >> i understand>> stephen: but what is the value of doing this? now korea and north korea and china have said america is a hypocrite. >> that's the funny thing, these techniques were taken from the chinese communists. they did it to our p.o.w.s, they waterboarded them to make them make false confessions. our military started training our guys, resist captivity, and it's a couple of these survival shrinks, the scolses who ran the air force survival training program -- >> stephen: the guys trying to help our soldiers resist torture-- >> they sold it to the c.i.a. >> stephen: the two guys, dr. mitchell and a dr. jensen-- >> jeffson jim and bruce. >> stephen: they got how much money to do this? >> $81 million. that's one of the facts you can find out in here. >> stephen: $81 million to design this thing. i'm going to be out of a job soon. is there any way i can get some of that money? >> you needed to be a friend of theirs. they hired all their friends. they didn't know what they were doing. they had nev