>> ginger mccall. guest: i think that fact can very much be argued. there were cameras in boston. there were government-owned cctv cameras. also every camera that every person had. there were also the restaurant cameras and the store cameras that were used to help to solve this crime. so there's a lot of surveillance here. and this was an event where any reasonable person would have expected that there would have been pretty heavy coverage video coverage, photographic coverage. this was something that happened close to the finish line where everyone would be taking pictures. so clearly the presence of cameras in this instance was not something that actually deterred and it wasn't something that actually prevented. >> next up is karl calling from mississippi on our line for republicans. go ahead. caller: toipt ask the question -- i want to ask the question how do we know that these cameras are true? who does the -- i want you to educate me because how do i know what i'm seeing on that camera is true? >>

ginger mccall. [applause] >> thank you for having me. >> thank you very much for having me. i hope i can give as much intensity. they have been able to give me coffee beforehand soshe litigaty that will add to it. so i guess i'll start off with the good news. right now we have a very unique opportunity to comment on a very controversial air travel program. body scanner program, as we're calling it at epic, nude body scanners, have been something that epic has worked on for four, five years now. we have had several lawsuits on this topic. and it's come to fruition by the agency. now skeptics will be asked, what will be the notice? isn't the agency just going to go ahead to do what it wants to do anyway? but we do believe it's an opportunity for the american public to weigh in on this. if the agency doesn't take your comments into account, doesn't take our comments into account, we will go ahead and take this further into court. commentice and rulemaking actually came out of a lawsuit that we filed on july 15, 2011. this was a lawsuit in d.c. circuit court. we filed under seve

ginger mccall from e.p.i.c. [applause] >> thank you for having me.i'll try to give as much intensity as they can to this. jim staff was helpful enough to get my coffee before him, so hopefully that will add to it. i guess i'll start up with the good news. right now we have the unique opportunity to comment on a controversial air travel program. the body scanner program, body scanners have been sent to work down for four or five years now. we've had several lawsuits on this topic and finally come to fruition with an actual notice rulemaking. by the agency. skeptics among you will ask what will be, isn't the agency going to do what it wants to do anyway? we believe this is an opportunity for the american public to weigh in and if the agency doesn't take comments into account, we are willing to go ahead and take this further court. this notice and comment rulemaking came out of a lawsuit they filed a july 15, 2011. this was a d.c. circuit court filed under several legal doctrines including the fourth amendment, privacy act and administrative procedure a

ginger mccall. [applause] >> thank you very much for having me.i hope i can give as much intensity. they have been able to give me coffee beforehand so hopefully that will add to it. so i guess i'll start off with the good news. right now we have a very unique opportunity to comment on a very controversial air travel program. body scanner program, as we're calling it at epic, nude body scanners, have been something that epic has worked on for four, five years now. we have had several lawsuits on this topic. and it's come to fruition by the agency. now skeptics will be asked, what will be the notice? isn't the agency just going to go ahead to do what it wants to do anyway? but we do believe it's an opportunity for the american public to weigh in on this. if the agency doesn't take your comments into account, doesn't take our comments into account, we will go ahead and take this further into court. this notice and comment rulemaking actually came out of a lawsuit that we filed on july 15, 2011. this was a lawsuit in d.c. circuit court. we filed unde

ginger mccall. [applause] [applause] >> thank you very much for having me.i'll try to give as much intensity as i can to this. jim was helpful enough to give me help beforehand. hopefully that will add to it. so i guess i'll -- start off with the good news. i have a unique opportunity to comment on a controversial air travel program. the body scanner program nude body scanners have been something that open pick has worked on four or five years now. we have had several lawsuits on the topic. and finally it's come to fruition with a notice and comment rulemaking period by the agency. now exceptic among you will probably ask what is the point. but we really do believe this is an opportunity for the american public to weigh in on this. and if the agency doesn't take your comment in to account, doesn't take our comment in to account we are willing to take it ahead neuritis court. the notice came out of a lawsuit we filed on july 15, 2011. this was a lawsuit in d.c. circuit court. we filed under several legal docket rein including the fourth amendment, the privacy

. -- due to ginger mccall and edward hasbrouck. [applause] an administrative note. we will have lunch on the second floor. one floor up from here in the back of the building. inc. you. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> some news to pass on to you this afternoon. republican u.s. senator mark kirk of illinois says he supports and sex marriage. that same-sex couples should have the right to civil marriage. senator kirk has recovered from a stroke and is the top republican from illinois. our korea says it is restarting a plutonium reactor and is increasing production of nuclear reaction material. secretary of state john kerry's meeting today here in washington with south korea's foreign affairs minister. they plan to speak to reporters this afternoon. we will have live coverage of that beginning at 4:20 p.m. eastern. former treasury secretary hank paulson speaking this afternoon on china. he specialized on china i'll head of the organization goldman sachs and visited china as treasury secr

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