panel , deputy assistant secretary for the office of community planning and development at hud, gingerjr and historian, and our own benjamin grant in san francisco who is at spur. we have come to the and of our program, and i hope you have enjoyed it. we really appreciate you and the audience for coming tonight, and we us be surely -- especially wish you all well. at this point in the program, we are looking at the future for our programs and we hope that in will join us once again the programs that we have coming up. you will find them on our green sheet. from all of us here at the commonwealth club, a big thank you to the moderator and panel, and a big thank you to our audience on the internet, and throughout our radio audiences and through c-span. with

the , deputy assistant secretary for the office of community planning and development at hud, gingerjr and historian, and our own benjamin grant in san francisco who is at spur. we have come to the and of our program, and i hope you have enjoyed it. we really appreciate you and the audience for coming tonight, and we us be surely -- especially wish you all well. at this point in the program, we are looking at the future for our programs and we hope that in will join us once again the programs that we have coming up. you will find them on our green sheet. from all of us here at the commonwealth club, a big thank you to the moderator and panel, and a big thank you to our audience on the internet, and throughout our radio audiences and through c-span. will adjourn the meeting of the commonwealth club of california. [applause] he said in the beginning, i looked in the near and i don't see a president. my response to that was too quick looking in the mirror. from the beginning, he said -- >> tonight, former public relations executor on his book run mitch run, about his former -- his friend,