your question, perhaps to conman gingrey first? >>. >> well, i just talked to a friend of mine today who was diagnosed a year ago with cancer. she lost her job right along with me. she informed me her cobra didn't pick her up because it was considered a pre-existing condition. i think my biggest question of all to both of you and to the american government is if all these people have been putting their money into insurance company and the insurance company takes the money, invest it, buy real estate, stocks, whatever, and that's supposed to make them money to pay the payments back for the treatment that you're getting, if they can't make it work and the government continues to put all of these regulations and stipulations into developing drugs and to how things are done medically, i don't understand how the government is going to pay for it to make it any better. >> congressman gingrey, why don't you respond to that? >> laura, i said on the previous clip that a situation like yours, you've been paying to that system all along and c

joining us now on the telephone is congressman fiphil gingrey, republican from georgia, what are your thoughts on a potential u.n. resolution by the obama administration condemning the release and the welcome home? >> caller: well, i am all for it. i agree with them, with obama's administration, and -- but don't agree with him on the health care reform ideas and the public option. but it is refreshing that i can agree with him on something. i think that... the resolution even if the security council with libya, as a member now, can beat -- at least we'll have our opportunity to express or opinion and present the resolution to the general assembly. >> eric: the u.s. ambassador, we have no word if indeed the administration may submit such a resolution, but, look, the administration, in other areas, tried to work with these countries, do you think the obama administration would actually want to try and get the ire of libya by doing something so public introducing a resolution, knowing libya, the president of the security council, five months ago, they certainly would have such a condemna

congressman phil gingrey is a republican from georgia. both members of the all-powerful energy and commerce committee. i want to start with jim cooper. jim, i watched you over the years be the moderate democrat from the middle part of the country, from tennessee, and i watched the role you played back in '94 trying to craft a more moderate version of health care up against the clintons. i saw the clintons go down in terrible defeat. they lost dozens and dozens of house seats, as you know, in '94. they blew it, you could say. i watched ted kennedy blow it back in the '70s when nixon wanted to push through a complete employer mandate, a much more radical health care bill than we're even talking about now. democratic liberals keep saying we want it all, they keep losing it all. what's going to happen this time? >> i think we can get a good health reform bill done this year on the president's time table. i think this dispute over the public option really depends on how you define it. i think we can get a good public option through that even t

gingrey, you're opportunity. you can say what you want. do you think people should come armed to public meetings to discuss health care or not? >> i would think that they should exercise their rights under the second amendment. >> thank you very much. you made yourself clear congressman, nothing is worse than doing nothing. should democrats be concerned about the upcoming midterm elections? we think they do have something to worry. that may cause some of them to vote no on this health care bill just out of fear. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> coming up, he was a mall si, but i've still got room for the internet. with my new netbook from at&t. with its built-in 3g network, it's fast and small, so it goes places other laptops can't. i'm bill kurtis, and wherever i go, i've got plenty of room for the internet. and the nation's fastest 3g network. gun it, mick. (announcer) sign up today and get a netbook for $199.99 after mail-in rebate. with built-in access to the nation's fastest 3g network. only from at&t. the sparkly flakes.

gingrey, you're opportunity. you can say what you want. do you think people should come armed to public meetings to discuss health care or not? >> i would think that they should exercise their rights under the second amendment. >> thank you very much. you made yourself clear. congressman gi congressman, nothing is worse than doing nothing. should democrats be concerned about the upcoming midterm elections? we think they do have something to worry. that may cause some of them to vote no on this health care bill just out of fear. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. (announcer) illness doesn't care where you live... ...or if you're already sick... ...or if you lose your job. your health insurance shouldn't either. so let's fix health care. if everyone's covered, we can make health care as affordable as possible. and the words "pre-existing condition" become a thing of the past... we're america's health insurance companies. supporting bipartisan reform that congress can build on. but i've still got room for the internet. with my new netb

gingrey, dr.ngrey, i yield to you the remaining amount. >> i thank the gentleman from texas for yielding amendment earlier fee-for-service and just episodic care and that is why it is a little bit more expensive, but in the long run, theoretically it would save a tremendous amount of money. and so, the cots, yes, sure we should cut and try to reduce the cost, but i think we have cut way more out of it than just the fact. we've got the mosul of the bone and i agree with the amendment of mr. hall and yield back. >> this kutz 10% rather than 20%, and i will yield to anyone that has questions. >> i yield back my time. >> the gentleman is time is expired and the chair would oppose the amendment. it would result in adding $50 billion to the deficit or require -- it does not require reductions to the bill, but they would -- it would cause a problem and i know that you are concerned about the cuts we are making to the medicare advantage plans, but i think the cuts in the bill are justified and i urge memb

gingrey, but it should be -- >> matheson, gingrey, rogers or one of those.>> scores 00 to appear in at the top@ )í@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @> >> i have at the end of section. >> will be considered as read. >> thank you, mr. chairman, i would hope that this would be an amendment the order would set. one of the particular trends is there's been a lot of misleading comments. that if you like the health plan you have, you can keep it, unless you are one of the 11 million seniors or the 8 million americans which have health saveings accounts, which is growing by 30% each year or the 40% on arisa plan that will loose their plan after five years. this is an important amendment that provides information and catastrophic coverage. >> will the gentleman yield to me? >> yes, sir. discrimination by anybody who are representing planned. would you be willing to work with us to allow people the choice of age as a way but not a plan that exempts them from these issues of consumer detections? >> if you are saying it has a mirror of a government plan mr. chairman. >> i'm not sa

. >> jamie: will it work and can we afford it, congressman fill gingrey from georgia and the member of the committee, the energy and commerce committee that came up with their bill on friday, thanks for joining us, congressman, good morning. >> good morning. >> jamie: first, let me ask you how you felt when you left on friday. it went into the wee hours and there were changes at the last minute and the democrats now will go home and they'll be on a real sales pitch with constituents, what do you think they'll hear in response? >> well, i think they'll get an earful from their constituent and the constituent will not be very happy. i was disappointed. when -- in the late hours of the night on friday when they finally brought forward the amendment from the blue dogs, i was expecting much more, in fact i was expecting the elimination of the public insurance plan. and they didn't do that at all. in fact they did very little, it was cosmetic, and they'll have an awfully hard time selling that to conservatives or constituents throughout the southeast, where many of them are from. i know, bec

senator coburn, and representatives gingrey have all been rejected. what does the bill say? there will be no health care until you are born. while the baby is in the mother, we do not count that as a person. medicaid and ship will only cover at the time of birth. >> [yelling] >> these are not talking points, these are my own. i have one other thing. i have spent many years in information technology. you are about to concentrate more information about more pennsylvanian and americans in this bill in one place that has ever occurred. in fact, the congressional budget office says it gives you the right to enter, using our internal revenue service, and page 58 talks about entering our own accounts, because financial responsibility has to be ascertained. my final comment is this. massachusetts has tried something like this. tennessee has tried something like this. why don't we take a look at what has worked and what has failed their? maybe start it in a blue state. give it all we have got in one state. don't concentrate all this power and the bureaucrats and their computers in wa

gingrey and steve cohen.'re wrapping this discussion up, we're understanding -- nice of these gentlemen. we're understanding that senator arlen specter has also wrapped up his discussion with those who were able to attend his town hall meeting there. there you see the crowd that was able to fit inside the room there in lebanon, pennsylvania, exiting now with the hundreds gathered outside, still. once again, senator arlen specter taking about 30 questions from that audience and definitely heated moments that i think you'll see throughout the day in the news media today. >>> meanwhile, president obama takes his health care message on the road again. he leaves the white house heading to a high school in port smith, new hampshire. he is holding his own town hall meeting there this afternoon. robert gibbs says he doesn't expect it to be as out of control as some of the other health care town halls we've seen. you certainly don't want to miss it. stay with cnn for live coverage of that event, again, happening at 1:

we hope to be able to make a presentation and gingrey focusing on the national purpose side and then wrapped up in february. -- we hope to be able to make a presentation in january focusing on the national purpose site. we will have workshops in september. we're also going to move to field hearings because it is important to get out of washington. we did do a number of innovations. we have used innovative techniques. i feel confident that over time these techniques will fbe better. you mentioned one that i think we may hold the record for, and i hope we continue to hold the record for, which would be the busiest month of august ever for commission staff. i hope you do not have to do that again. we had no choice. i think it's tremendous thank you is owed to a number of people who worked extremely hard on the logistics, all of the workshops had significant step participation -- had significant staff participation. let me turn it over to eric to talk about how the workshops when spirited >> thank you. it is great to be here today. what i have been impressed by is the midwestern practica

senator coburn, and representatives gingrey have all been rejected. what does the bill say? there will be no health care until you are born. while the baby is in the mother, we do not count that as a person. medicaid and ship will only cover at the time of birth. >> [yelling] >> these are not talking points, these are my own. i have one other thing. i have spent many years in information technology. you are about to concentrate more information about more pennsylvanian and americans in this bill in one place that has ever occurred. in fact, the congressional budget office says it gives you the right to enter, using our internal revenue service, and page 58 talks about entering our own accounts, because financial responsibility has to be ascertained. my final comment is this. massachusetts has tried something like this. tennessee has tried something like this. why don't we take a look at what has worked and what has failed their? maybe start it in a blue state. give it all we have got in one state. don't concentrate all this power and the bureaucrats and their computers in wa

gingrey, for two minutes. >> mr.rman, i thank you and i thank you for calling the hearing, and the welcome back john liebowitz and honorable bar, this is the secretary of financial institutions. iso- state my remarks really with what the germans from nebraska on our side just said, mr. terry. here we are creating a whole new federal government bureaucracy when we have one already that is doing a heck of a job, as it would certainly seem to me and i think most members on this panel. so the question becomes, you know, why to use a medical expression throw the baby out with the bathwater if we are doing -- if the ftc is doing the right and proper job and the right and proper oversight and all of a sudden we come in and spend more federal dollars, as the gentleman from kentucky was talking about earlier, by creating a whole new federal bureaucracy. so again, i am happy to hear it from the witnesses, and maybe they can explain that. hopefully they will explain that, but i think this is something we need to look at very, v