that was allen ginsburg in 1970. and then finally these papers, you know, they brought people into the movement's fold. they could shore up people's political participation. they welcomed rank-and-file potential and they were in old-fashioned rubbing raking and i showed these newspapers outperformed established journalism like the "new york post" and they became visible in some communities they became cause celeb and their offices hippy travellers and activists lly earn a living by enclaves, selling these newspapers on street corners, at rallies and whatnot. and another big theme in the book is the fact they encountered a tremendous amount of harassment. and i would point out that, you know, it is true that salacious material was very common place in these newspapers and so they were shy to use dirty words. a key feature of a lot of these papers was underground comics and they spell comics with an x to suggest that these papers were x-rated maybe or suitable, you know, adult readership. i think they're mostly aimed a

mark ginsburg, let me start with you.watched the latest developments in libya on the ground, let's start there. wr where are we at this hour? >> the transitional national council, the government is still in benghazi, they have not apprehended gadhafi yet. hopefully the lawlessness around the compound will be quieted down. the most important thing at this point in time is how can you procure safety and security and ridded city of tripoli the neighborhoods ever the dead-enders still fighting on gadhafi's behalf? >> well, ambassador, how is that going to be handled? without more external forces? can the rebels themselves and whatever level of organization or disorganization they have now put an end to this or will we be looking at chaos for what could be weeks and weeks? >> i think we're all surprised by the rapidly with which they are able to take over the compound. obviously they're getting a lot of good intelligence. they're having, getting good advice on the ground. but you know, at some point we could start to see rifts

. >> thank you, commissioners, and general manager ginsburg, thank you.so a hard act to follow. i think you did well in summarizing jack's life and, of course, we recognize the generosity of his gift done to the san francisco japantown foundation so that his intern can fund the renovations that was badly needed in the japanese teagarden but also jack hirose is a hero within the japanese american community. as you can see from the letters for a number of reasons. so what we're actually talking about is his legacy. it's not only the legacy of this individual in the japanese american community but it's part of the fabric of the city of san francisco that i think tom outlined. his parents immigrated like so many japanese americans from san francisco at the turn of the century. at a time of ultraracism, ultrasegregation in this community. and despite that in the most -- in the finest way of american tradition, overcame that. world war ii happened, of course. like others, 110,000 others, jack hirose's family wound up inturned in toe paz, combruth, -- topaz, bec

ginsburg. it is asking for this an agreement that was done in 1990. some of the cabins -- it was treated like it was a donation, and that was fine until last year. all of a sudden, they wanted us to do a day use fee, which is $13 a day, at least it was last year. that equals a $91 a week for one person. for a total of 27 hours, that is all the pool is open during one week. that is just way too high for some families. for two people, it is $182 per week. if you have a family, children, i mean, it is still $30 a day. too expensive. also, it takes about 20 to 30 minutes, because i had to do it, to fill out the paperwork to get the wristband for the day use the. -- for the day use fee. i did it on a weekday, but if it was a saturday when people are checking into the camp, it would really hold up the camp. it took 30 minutes for each person from peach growers who wanted to go swimming to fill out the forms. and they are in the same line. anyway, that, and that is probably why we were given the flat rate to start with. it is easier on everybody. still have

joining us, ambassador to mark ginsburg and former white house adviser on the middle east. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> nbc news reporting gadhafi may be thinking with his family about fleeing the capital nap would be a seminole dwochlt in th development in this. >> planning to leave, we've heard it before. the nato air strike killed members of his family. it's not sure whether or not he'll leave the country or go to his tribe southwest of tripoli, because he is the leader of one of the major tribes in libya. but there's no doubt that the noose is tightening around tripoli. the previously disorganized rebels have clearly become more organized, received a lot of nato support as well as support from gatad and other reconnaissance support which made it much more balanced on the rebels' behalf. >> just to be clear, if gadhafi and his family were to leave tripoli that doesn't necessarily mean this is over, meaning the kind of undeclared six-month war we're in? it could stilling gone on, he could be leading his side from other places in the country? >> libya is bas

state department and mark ginsburg. do you think that transitional council is up to the job? restore law-and-order and unite the country? >> i do not know if we know the answer to that yet. it is premature. the transitional national council is largely a council that has been led by the former justice minister. he does not have the charisma to unite the country which is basically a divided country. there is a great division between the transitional national council that originated in benghazi in those trouble leaders and opponents to the regime in tripoli as well as the west like ion laz rudder. they were unhappy over the failure of the council to provide adequate military resistance. can they restore safety and stability to tripoli as quickly as possible? that will be the most important task. >> when do you think we will see a functioning democracy in this country? is that possible at the moment? >> a functioning democracy is a rather distant goal. this country was ruled by a brutal dictatorship for decades. it is deeply divided along tribal lines. it has gone now to a harrow

and india's becoming a global marketplace and ginsburg go forward she's are turning a blind alley to the in the legal like the business people living in the song say selling their organs is the only way for them to supply. the time and i'm going to absolve recently when riots in the new scene flaring up next i'll see you trying to find out why it happens. i'm joined by frances gilbert teacher and author has written a book called your nation and is a frequent commentator on youth culture frances thanks for speaking to r.t. so what was your reaction to the riots and surprised i suppose i was shocked when i heard of them near where i live but i wasn't surprised because i think a lot of commentators have said this sort of thing. as being waiting to happen for a number of years now and why is that you think i think it's complicated i mean i suppose you could isolate a few factors firstly we have a kind of run of disaffected socially disadvantaged young people in urban areas. maybe a couple of decades and they have become more and more become. divisions in society. and they become less fri

the last person to do that was ginsburg during the monica lewinsky scandal in 1998. >> if she does not do well here, she will face some tough questions about what happened. that could be uncomfortable for her. what i'm most curious about is that she is making the ginsburg circuit and then going to iowa where governor perry is making his iowa debut. she is not backing down. they will be going after similar voters, and that will be fascinating watching them go head-to-head in waterloo. >> and of course, the president is going to be in iowa next week. is i was a swing state in 2012? >> -- iowa a swing state in 2012? >> absolutely. it was close in 2004, where president bush narrowly won. four years ago, president obama took the state. i can see president obama and whoever the gop nominee is spending a lot of time in iowa. there is a strong labor presence, a democratic leaning eastern part of the state. the western part goes for the gop. >> we have heard that the caucus might move to january. what could prompt that? >> if florida, arizona or michigan decides to go first in the process, the

ambassador ginsburg, it's been said you drill to the heart of every war and you strike oil.at's incredibly important for the rebuilding of this country and we've seen it, i guess, not meet up to expectations elsewhere like in iraq where we thought the rebuilding would be paid for by the richs underground. how important is the oil infrastructure to getting libya on a path to its new future? >> 95% of libya's revenues come from oil and last year or in the last few years, they've generated close to about 40 to $45 billion a year in revenues and you take the difference between what they spend on their 6 million people in the country and the difference between what they spend in government and let's just say it's $30 billion, and the $12 billion that's leftover is going into the gadhafi family fortune. >> how do you make sure that money doesn't go into the pockets of groups of tribes or different leaders in groups who are trying to take control in the country? how do you make sure that the infrastructure of the country doesn't -- is used for the best interests of the country? >>

go back in your head, kagan, sotomayor con la roberts, alito, breyer, ginsburg, thomas -- all of them. i think we are getting a pretty much what we expect from these justices. but i think it is worth thinking about that what we see is what we get, and presidents, to an extent we journalists do not fully acknowledge, presidents tell the truth about what they want in supreme court justices. president george w. bush said he wants to appoint justices in the mold of scalia and thomas. obama spoke of his admiration for justices ginsburg and breyer, and come next november -- i do not think there will be in need between now and then -- but we should listen to what the presidential candidates say, and that is likely what we will get in our next supreme court. with that, i look forward to taking precautions and answering them. [laughter] estion?ot a qu [unintelligible] that is a great question. could you repeat it so it goes into the microphone? >> sure. with respect to justice souter, when he left the court it marked the first time in modern american history where the court did not have a memb

mark ginsburg former u.s. ambassador tomo rocco joins me from washington, d.c. good to see you, ambassador. >> good to be with you, contessa. >> what's the primary concern at this point for other nations when we're talking about the nay toy etoe nations, the united states, for egypt which has recognized the tradition -- tra sigsal crisis? >> the worst thing that can happen ovenly the nato to the investment by nato in the united states as well as other arab states is a breakdown of law and order inside the major cities. as richard just reported the traditional national council is based way to the east of benghazi and tripoli in the best of times never really had anything but dick torl police state controlling the city. if that evaporates there's a danger of looting, a doirch of instability. the history tells us that leaderless revolutions are not good for democrats. there's a huge power vacuum that is going to be the subject of intense efforts to try to cease control by many of the tribal leaders that have largely waited by the sidelines here. >> in fact, that's

she did the full ginsburg almost on purpose. knowing she was going to get a lot of tough questions. david pinned her down in a lot of areas that she tried not to answer when it came on some issues involving her views on gay rights and gay marriage. on another show she was asked about can you name some specific cuts you would make if you didn't raise the debt ceiling you'd have to cut the budget by 40%. she didn't go there. it's been interesting to watch her sielistic versus the substance. i think what you're seeing right now is short-term the stylistic aspect of this allows her to keep going. and her supporters are still with her and it doesn't matter. but the inability to answer some of those questions or the tough ways to defend for instance, not raising the debt ceiling is losing her any opportunity i think she has to shift her campaign. she keeps trying to move it into the mainstream of the republican party a little bit. try to appeal to some of the chamber of commerce republicans. you look at "the wall street journal" editorial page you can see the empire of the republican esta

justice alito has and justice ginsburg has been i think it gives you a sense of what they are up against. it is a lot easier to ask the questions than it is to answer them. i was reminded of the thing that many law professors say to their classes. it is just as hard to write the exam as it is to take it. [laughter] truly, that is -- no. [laughter] and that is the same thing here. being solicitor general i think he gave me a great perspective on the court. the job that is most like being at the supreme court justice is being solicitor general. your not deciding the case is but you are focused all the time on the supreme court. your job is to try to figure out how to persuade nine supreme court justices to take a particular position. now my job is to figure out how to persuade a [laughter] supreme court] the difference between those things is not altogether a great. know, theof you don't solicitor general is the lawyer who represents the united states in the supreme court and to also supervises appellate litigation is generally a varia. the solicitor general participate in 3/4 of the cases

i was amused to see that justice ginsburg gave a speech just a couple of weeks ago. i forget where it was. where she plucked out some funny and vaguely embarrassing comment that is the justices had made during oral arguments. and said -- and then, you know, concluded by saying as you can see, it won't be long. we're not going to allowing cameras in the courtroom any time soon. you know, it would be embarrassing to have this stuff on camera. imagine if you came to the supreme court in the first amendment case and said the reason we kept this, because we thought it might be embarrassing. they would laugh you out of court. look, it is their candy store. and in fairness, i think the court is an institution that works very well the way it is. i understand that they are reluctant to tamper with it. i just think, you know, to say an event is public in 2011 because 75 people or whoever it is can troop in there and watch, i mean i think that's a undually limited reading of the world public. now i do think the court has done well, or better on the issue of audio. and i really

justice ginsburg sits near the middle.tice o'connor said, "i was hearing women's voices coming from all over," that was a remarkable thing to her. i am sure she remembers those days when she was the only one. i think it is kind of great that has happened. i think -- i am glad to be part of it. >> i think that is a great way to end. we would like to thank you very much. [laughter] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> up next, general james mattis discusses the situation in iraq and afghanistan. after that, google executive chairman eric schmidt talks about google tv. then microsoft founder bill gates talks about the work of the bill and melinda gates foundation. tomorrow on "washington journal ," the former deputy director to the nato secretary general has the latest on libya and nato's role in the area. michelle bernard, ceo of the bernard's center for women's politics and public policy, a former maryland congressperson and naacp president, and

and i was amused to see that justice ginsburg gave a speech just a couple weeks ago i think, i forgot where it was, where she, she plucked out some funny and vaguely embarrassing comments that the justices had made during oral arguments, and said, and then conclude by saying as you can see, we will not be allowing cameras in the courtroom anytime soon. because would be embarrassing to the stuff on kim. imagine if you came to the supreme court in a first amendment case and said, your honor, the reason we kept the stuff from the public as we thought it might be embarrassing. they would laugh you out of court. but look, it is their candy store. and fairest to the supreme court, i think the court is an institution that works very well the way it is. i understand they're reluctant to tamper with it. but i just think, to say an event is public in 2011 because 75 people, or whoever it is, ken troop in there and watch, i think it isn't unduly limited reading of the word public. now, i do think the court has done well, or better, on the issue of audio. and i really do -- the room out as many o

marc ginsburg talks about the current situation in libya and the impact on u.s. form policy in the region. and george washington professor brian biles discusses the growing cost of medicare and what we expect from the deficit reduction committee. earlier today a report was released by the pga to say china appeared on track to building a modern military by 020. we will hear more about that now at this defense department briefing. it is 35 minutes. >> good afternoon everybody. i am the deputy assistant secretary of defense and i am here this afternoon to talk to you all about the report to congress on military ask security developments involving the people's republic of china that we delivered up to capitol hill today. i will offer a few broad plots on the report. a couple of points about the administration's overall approach to china and walk you through in detail, hopefully not too painful, what is in the report this year and we will have time for whatever questions that you may have. the report, as many know, is a report from the secretary of defense transmitted

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justice ginsburg sits near the middle. justice o'connor said, "i was hearing women's voices coming from all over," that was a remarkable thing to her. i am sure she remembers those days when she was the only one. i think it is kind of great that has happened. i think -- i am glad to be part of it. >> i think that is a great way to end. we would like to thank you very much. [laughter] [captioning performed by national captionininstitute] [ctions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> coming up next, an update on iraq and afghanistan with general mattis, commander of the u.s. central command. after that google executive chairman eric schmidt and on launch of google tv. then bill gates talks about the work of the bill and melinda gates foundation. i. "newsmakers", we will talk with emmanuel cleaver about the black caucus's view of federal spending and the debt and the cbc's relationship with president obama. "newsmakers" is on 10:00 a.m. on c-span. >> on sunday, a female will give an update -- fema will give an upd

justice ginsburg has. i think it does give you a sense of what they are up against. it is a lot easier to ask the questions than it is to answer them. i am reminded here of the thing that a lot of law professors say to their glasses. it is just as hard to write the exam as it is to take it. [laughter] truly, that is no. [laughter] that is the same thing here. being solicitor general, i think, give me this great perspective on the court in some ways. this job that is most like being a supreme court justice is being solicitor general could you were not decide in the cases, but you are focused all the time on the supreme court. your job is trying to figure out how to persuade nine supreme court justices to take a particular position. now my job this figuring out how to persuade eight supreme court justices. [laughter] the solicitor general, for those of you -- i know a lot of you're not lawyers -- but the solicitor general is the lawyer who represents the united states in the supreme court and supervises appellate litigation generally. the solicitor general actually par

and justice ginsburg davis' speech, i forgot where it was, where she plucked out some funny and vaguely sleep -- vaguely embarrassing comments that justices had made during oral arguments and then concluded by saying, as you can say, we're not going to be allowing cameras in the courtroom any time soon. because it would be embarrassing to have this stuff on camera. imagine if you came to the supreme court in a first amendment case and said, the reason we kept this from the public is because we thought it might be embarrassing? they would laugh you out of court. but it is their candy store and in fairness to the supreme court, it is an institution that works very well the way that it is and i understand that they are reluctant to tamper with it. but i think to say an event is public in 2011 because 75 people or whoever it is canned troop in there and watch, i think that is an unduly limited reading of the word public. i do think that the court has done well or better on the issue of audio. and i really do -- our role now as many of you know is that the audio recordings are released every