justice ginsburg turned 80 in march of this year. she seems frail, but there was a story in the "post" a few months ago about her personal trainer that some people in the audience may not have seen. >> she works i think about twice a week with a personal trainer. someone who works at the d.c. circuit and trains a lot of the judges. i think justice kagan works with him as well. justice ginsburg seems extremely dedicated to it. a real regular. i believe that he said that she can do 20 perfect push-ups. whether that is true or an advertisement for himself, we do not know. [laughter] there was no documentation of it. she takes care of herself after the health scares she has had. the question is always when she will be ready to leave the court and she doesn't give any of us an indication that the time has come. >> she is very sharp on the bench. when i started there, justice brennan and justice marshall -- they sort of sat quietly and rarely said anything. ruth ginsburg, almost every argument she would ask the first question and is really

i want to quickly go back to park ginsburg and talk about the regional issue.till have bashar al assad still in syria. this comes right at that time where we're he clearly dealing with iran. if egypt can get itself together and make this transition peacefully, could this provide us even better leverage if we have a stronger more democratically supported government in the area? >> i think every one of us would love to see a strong democratic institutionally well established government run in egypt. the fact of the matter is, joy, is that fortunately for egypt, it doesn't face the same type of sunni secular divide that is tearing apart the fabric of societies in syria as well as in iraq as well as in bahrain. what we're seeing here is really more a multitiered disapproval of the government that has an islamist versus secular aspect to it. an economically deprived versus an economically mismanaged government aspect to it. so what is driving egypt is will esto do, believe it or the no, with strong sectarian religious islamist fault lines and much more to do with en

scalia and ginsburg.ose scathing dissents do they mean anything or is it just sort of an elevated version of an old person writing an angry letter to the editor? >> they can mean something in moral terms, right? like we can look back on a dissent like the one in plessy versus ferguson. that's the old case that said it was okay to have separate but equal. we think about that dissent as correct. so it ends up having kind of moral weight but it doesn't have any legal value. you're right about that >> stephen: is there any way we could turn the gay people and the black people against each other? and make them fight in a sort of thunder dome. and the winner gets the civil rights? >> i don't think so. you know, one thing about this country... >> stephen: you're not sure. it's possible. >> no. [ cheers and applause ] >> no. it's not possible. and the reason is these are separate matters of civil rights. they get... the supreme court decides each case as it comes before it. there isn't this kind of overarching wo

but justice ginsburg seems extremely dedicated to it. a real regular, and i believe that he said that she can do 20 perfect pushups. now whether that is true or whether that is more of an advertisement for himself, we don't know. [laughter] there was no documentation of it, but certainly she takes care of herself after the health scare she's had. and, you know, the question is when she is going to be ready to leave the court? she certainly doesn't give us an indication that that time has come. >> she's also very sharp on the bench. when i started, justice brennan, justice marshall, harry blackman were middle 80s. they sat quietly and rarely said anything. she asks one of the first questions. she's sharp with the questions. if the attorney judges something or mistakes it a little bit. she'll correct it and say wasn't it so in this case in the trial court -- whatever. she's really always well prepared and extremely sharp in the questions she asks. >> she was the first -- well, no, chef the second woman on the court for awhile. chef the onl

i want to bring back in mark ginsburg, former clinton ambassador to morocco. heard what richard engel was just reporting, that this is indeed a celebration. many people in the streets do not see this as an undemocratic coup, but rather a response to a president who did not manage the economy well and continued to try to accrue powers, including ruling out judicial oversight of some of his actions. where do we go from here, and what did you think of what richard was reporting about the open questions that faced mr. morsi's future? >> i think richard's report is dead on. the fact of the matter is we don't know what's going to happen to mr. morsi. we don't know whether or not he's going to call on his supporters to rise up against this -- what he has called a military coup and what the fellow muslim brotherhood leaders call a coup. it's clear the military is rounding up leaders of the muslim brotherhood and more radical elements of egyptian society. at the same time, you have to understand that what has caused this outpouring of anger and resentment against morsi

general manager ginsburg and i am going save some of my thunder for the beer bust that we're throwing next friday afternoon on behalf of the meredith, you are all invited and everyone in the audience you are all invited as well. so we'll crack open a few beers and have a real celebration of meredith's contributions then. i wanted to take a moment to acknowledge a few key observations here. so as you

general manager ginsburg and i am going save some of my thunder for the beer bust that we're throwing next friday afternoon on behalf of the meredith, you are all invited and everyone in the audience you are all invited as well. so we'll crack open a few beers and have a real celebration of meredith's contributions then. i wanted to take a moment to acknowledge a few key observations here. so as you all know the parks alliance was created out of the merger of neighborhood parks council and the parks trust, just shy of two years ago, time flis when you are having fun. meredith willingness stepped aside as executive director of the neighborhood parks council to become the stewardship for the parks alliance and successfully navigating that kind of transition in the non-profit sector is rare. and it is just one of many credits to go to meredith for her professionalism, her dedication to the parks system in san francisco and her talents. in my tenure in this position, there is no way i could possibly imagine having been even remotely successful in this position without meredith at my side

that seems like a deferential standard and i agree with justice ginsburg that the court did not apply it in shelby county. what are your thoughts on this and what standard of review should we expect the court to use when it analyzes potential amendments to the voting rights act? >> you are right, it is difficult to know what standards the court used in shelby county. did not tell us. the prevailing standard has been very deferential to congress and the court tossed out all of the work that congress had done in 15,000 pages of record. the prevailing standard had been that it recognition that congress is the body empowered in the first instance to enforce the 15th amendment and that the legislation passed should be viewed rationally. and any rational basis would suffice and the court seemed not to apply that. it seems to depart from that. they did not tell us what standards they were applauding. what they did say was that any step that congress takes house to reflect current conditions. although i think the old standard met that test, they did not. i think that congress has the ability

only justice ginsburg dissented. thomas and scalia offered concurring opinions. the opinion was only 13 pages. was almost unanimous and it was straight to the point. justice kennedy reaffirmed that gruder was the relative -- relevant precedent. then the court held that the fifth circuit did not apply the other case correctly. justice kennedy faulted the that certification before applying a form of strict scrutiny that was too feeble and one that gave too much discretion to the university. he reminds us that there are two steps in strict scrutiny. the court has to be convinced nefits from racial diversity that are compelling. justice kennedy said we concur to the university's judgment. the means chosen to meet that goal are relatively tailored to me that they did. for the second step, university does not and deference. that is where the fifth circuit aired. -- erred. strict scrutiny is not just race-neutral alternatives. this is what was called the money auote from the opinion -- quote opinion. it imposes the alton burden of demonstrating -- alternate burden of de

ruth bader ginsburg showed that it was one of first, too. it is the way for the dissent to call attention to his or her opinion. justice scalia told me in 1988, when he did his major dissent in the independent counsel case and he had that wonderful line, sometimes the wolf comes to us in sheep's clothing. justinson he decided byron white had said, we have a practice that if we feel passionately about a dissent, we should do that. he went on for nine minutes back in 1988. each year, he does at least one. havema, if he could bashed his words carried it. >> the great thing from being in the courtroom, he has this great storyteller voice. he was going on and telling the he can be very sarcastic. he is really rolling along and he finishes and he has written the majority opinion of the next case. the chief justice says, justice scalia will give the opinion and he had to recalibrate. sorry about that. he was still using his sarcastic voice. [laughter] he had to, like, shake it off and start over. my colleaguesat think about whether the justice who

justice ginsburg seems extremely dedicated to it. a real regular. i believe that he said that she can do 20 or quick push-ups. .- 20 perfect push-ups whether that is true or an advertisement for himself, we do not know. [laughter] there was no documentation of it. she takes care of herself after the health scares she has had. the question is always when she will be ready to leave the court and she doesn't give any of us an indication that the time has come. she is very sharp on the bench. when i started there, justin --nnan and justice marshall they sort of sat quietly and rarely said anything. ruth ginsburg, most most every argument should ask the first rushed in and was really sharp with the question. if there are them and say it. she is always well prepared an extremely sharp in the questions. the second woman on the court. after a while, she was the only one. now there are three. are they a voting bloc? -- block? 36 possible combinations of the night justice is. the three pairs most likely to vote together are the three women on the court. they

justice ginsburg said you have to wait four cycles -- >> that is different. that might be faced with the same allegation of discrimination and have to bring together the lawyers, money and evidence to challenge under section 2. >> your argument then sb senator, is not that you have to wait for elections to go by, you have to go find a lawyer. we can both agree that justice ginsburg was flat wrong in suggesting you can have to wait for elections to go by. as your experience in illinois knows, lawyers get together right after the map is passed and run to court. so that's not true. does it happen less frequently in rural counties? that may be true. but that's the way we enforce every civil rights law from title 7 to title 8. and in all of them, if you have a meritorious claim, all of your expenses are paid for by the other side on the fee shifting provision. there is not a civil rights group in the country that doesn't have a voting system and we now have a lot of -- >> you made your point on redistricting an i responded. i will close by allowing you a chance to

justice ginsburg turned 80 in march of this year. she seems frail, but there was a story in the "post" a few months ago about her personal trainer that some people in the audience may not have seen. >> she works i think about twice a week with a personal trainer. someone who works at the d.c. circuit and trains a lot of the judges. i think justice kagan works with him as well. justice ginsburg seems extremely dedicated to it. a real regular. i believe that he said that she can do 20 perfect push-ups. whether that is true or an advertisement for himself, we do not know. [laughter] there was no documentation of it. she takes care of herself after the health scares she has had. the question is always when she will be ready to leave the court and she doesn't give any of us an indication that the time has come. >> she is very sharp on the bench. when i started there, justice brennan and justice marshall -- they sort of sat quietly and rarely said anything. ruth ginsburg, almost every argument she would ask the first question and is really

for a look a these challenges, we're joined by mark ginsburg a former ambassador to morocco.being with us. let's start in egypt. what is the significance of the nature and provocation of the muslim brotherhood's marches here, and what role, if any, do we see the u.s. and john kerry playing? >> ari, we cannot underestimate that egypt is on the cusp of a huge potential blood bath. the fact of the matter is that we need to understand that the muslim brotherhood represents tens of millions of very angry followers of the post-president morsi. the fact that they're still willing to challenge the military establishment by marching on the security intelligence headquarters is an invitation to a huge blood bath. the fact is that despite all our efforts, despite the aid that the united states provides to egypt, there's very little leverage that we have when we have this potential confrontation about to take place for supreme si over the future of the egyptian state. >> well, let's turn to israel and the potential peace process there. i mean, watching as an observer, you see potential s

ruth gader ginsburg resists retirement pressure. she says she's in excellent health and plans to stay several more years on that bench. >>> and topping our news, slowly but surely, firefighters in arizona are quelling the flames to a wildfire that killed 19 of their own. it's now 80% contained. but the firefight in the west is far from over. 37 wildfires rage across the region. 715,000 acres up in smoke. wind driving many of these infernos. >>> and in remembrance, firefighters from across the nation will salute their fallen brothers at a memorial service on tuesday. >>> switching gears to a big find in iowa. these kids wading through a creek found a mastadon tooth. it's about 20,000 years old. and a whopping 5 pounds. so what exactly is a mastodon? they are extinct but kind of look like an inc.ient elephant. the kids say they'll hold on to the tooth and they're going to bring that tooth into class in the fall. okay. >>> key west residents celebrated the fourth with the world's largest key lime pie. was created especially for the ina

. >> i think that, with due respect, justice ginsburg, way over-reads -- way over-reads turner against safley. that was a case in which the prison at issue -- and it was decided in the specific context of a particular prison where there were both female and male inmates, many of them minimum security inmates. it was dealing with a regulation, your honor, that had previously permitted marriage in the case of pregnancy and childbirth. the court -- the court here emphasized that, among the incidents of marriage that are not destroyed by that -- at least that prison context, was the expectation of eventual consummation of the marriage and legitimation of the children. so that -- >> thank you, mr. cooper. >> thank you, mr. chief justice. >> mr. olson? >> thank you, mr. chief justice, and may it please the court -- i know that you will want me to spend a moment or two addressing the standing question, but before i do that, i thought that it would be important for this court to have proposition 8 put in context, what it does. it walls-off gays and lesbians from marriage, the most important re

. >> ruth bader ginsburg, those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. charles?> it is a classic statement of reactionary liberalism. the voting rights act succeeded. it changed america. it's day is over. not that the idea of preventing discrimination is over, but what justice roberts wrote in a decision four years ago in looking at the renewal he said i will renew it, but it is based on statistics that are half of a century old and completely changed. if you bring me new statistics that show this -- the states need to be singled out, it will be renewed. congress that not respond. in five of the six states, black turnout is higher than white. this is not america of 1965. the law itself in concept is correct, but if you want to talk about the areas of discrimination, it is not only in the south. you will do it everywhere, or specify with a new statistics the discrimination is happening in -- happening. >> we did not get a black president because of south carolina, alabama, mississippi. they stay true. do not cite a black president as a sign the country is changing

don't expect ruth bader ginsburg to be going anywhere any time soon. the 80-year-old justice tells reuters she has no plans to retire adding she's in excellent health even lifting some weights. all right. here's something you probably won't like. it is your tax dollars hard at work. a new report says the state department spent more than $600,000 on facebook likes. the money was used for advertisements to boost its standings on a social media website. well, americans don't think the founding fathers would be too proud how the country is turning out. 71% would be disappointed just over a fourth said they'd be pleased. >>> president obama welcomed members of the military and families to the white house for a july 4 th barbecue. >> what makes us great is not our size or a wealth but values and ideas and the willingness to fight for them. a global defender of peace and freedom. a beacon of hope for people everywhere. >> and first lady has ranked her top ten favorite moments from fourth of julys past and tweeted some from the events including the president w

scalia and justices ruth bader ginsburg, sonia sotomayor and eleanor kagan ruled against the here's what scalia said about his descent "the court has cast aside a bedrock rule of our 4 4th amendment law that the government may not search its citizens for evidence of crime unless there is a reasonable cause to believe that such evidence will be found. question. will the supreme court decision prompt a national standard for the collection of dna? >> eventually it probably will, and here'swhat you need to know to see which direction the country's going. in 2009 e supreme court@ruled thatsomebody con.icted of a crime@does not have the right to he access to their own dna even if it would prove them innocent. so we had a bill of rights set up to protect people. instead@peopledon't have access to their own dna but the government does have the access >> what's dna? >> well, it's your internal fingprint in some way. >> what does it stand for? dna. >> oh, boy. >> come on, struggle. >> i don't know.@ >> nucleicacid. i know that. >> that's the best we can do here? >> looks like it. >> does it give y

i see phil ginsburg, i know bill is around, others from our da office, richard caranza and others from the women's status as well and the district attorneys from the various counties, the school administrators and instructors and superintendents from other counties as well, as well as our community-based agencies that are so invaluable it all of us. this is a very important topic and it's one that our u.s. attorney, melinda hague and i helped spearhead yesterday with 800 students who came together who watch an incredible film by lee hirsch i've heard the wonderful reports from the kids, seen their laughter and their tears. we are going to honor your making that film by doing what we need to do to stop bullying across the country. because the data shared by our u.s. attorney, representatives from the department of education confirm if we don't do anything about it, 13 million kids will become victims again for another year. some 3 million kids across the country will decide it is better to leave their school grounds than to continue their education. there will be more stupblting of the

justice ginsburg put it well in her descent when she wrote and i'm quoting, throwing out preclearance when it is worked and continuing to work to stop discriminatory changes, is like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet. end quote. so i was disappointed with the decision. but i'm also optimistic that we can fix this because nobody really disputes that the voting rights act is still needed. writing for the majority in shelby and shelby county, justice roberts, credited the votie rights act with quote gret strides. voting still exist, no one doubts that, end quote. so it seems to me that question here isn't whether we need the voting rights act at all. the question is, what form should the law take. i'm looking forward to working with all of my colleagues on the judiciary committee to address that question in months ahead. we have enacted an authorized voting rights act on a truly bipartisan basis. hopefully we can do it again in 2013. professor levitt, we have touched on this already. preclearance. but i just want to get your response to this quote

having vacated the counts and ex created lower court for a most other things at a quote madam justice ginsburg the infirmity of invented law remained back to a lower court the task of assessing the gravity and completely self interestedly and spiritually retreat to counts. so that's what i historically stand convicted of. my sentence was reduced. i left the country, but in my previous blog i described all that. i felt that disclosure required me to put in there so that people wouldn't think i was hiding it. i'm not ashamed of it. i was persecuted and decades as best i could. there's life after episode like that. it took a decade a way for my life but they gave me a vantage point to be quite qualified to say what you say. and i know that my american friends are absolutely appalled, uphold at the state of american justice, especially the criminal justice system, but not only that. 5% of world population, 25% of incarcerated people and 50% of its lawyers. only counting large them to go through some series training to be alone. i'm talking about the lawyers of india where anyone wants to stroll in

it does demonstrate -- justice ginsburg is quitef civil procedure. the outcome of these cases is not necessarily predictable. the court is looking very carefully at class actions. looking very carefully at short cases and the whole management of what happens in civil process in our court. >>ck linda, quick comment? it is not so much that the court is a pro-business court, but it is an anti-litigation court. the discovery cases. where the court is a pro- business court, we do not have time to get through the seven new employment discrimination cases that came out this last week interpreting title vii as -- it is to conflict hated to go into. dissentginsburg earl was very reminiscent of her dissent in the ledbetter case which led to congressial reenactment of that provision of title vii. perhaps the same thing might happen this time. >> we do have a couple of minutes left. i want to put one general question on the table. looking back at the comments i made at the outset about the country of the court in the process the court had, i was struck by the co

. >> justice ginsburg very clearly in her dissent. >> last topic. >> young black men commit homicideste ten times greater than whites and hispanics combined. the reason there is so much violence and chaos in the black precincts is the disintegration of the african-american family. right now, about 73% of all black babies are born out of wedlock. white people don't force black people to have babies out of wedlock. that's a personal decision. raise without much structure. young black men often reject education is that gravitate toward the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. nobody forces them to do that. again, it is a personal decision. >> and we all know that all communities have all the same resources. senator, your response. >> it is just disturbing. i know that reverend al took bill to sylvia's. he needs to come into the black communities and the hispanic communities and really get a real understanding of the life and what it means. i don't know any black mother, any black fathers that want their children to be poor or not to be highly educated. this is disturbing. it should no

. >> justice ruth bader ginsburg wrote in her dissent, quote, "hubris," pride, "is a fit word for today's demolition of the voting rights act." was it hubris? >> it's politics. and i think it's also ideological hubris. because if you go back to the critical documents that supposedly protect the right to vote, you know, the 15th amendment passed in 1870, declares that people could not be prohibited from voting because of race, color, and condition of previous servitude and added the congress shall enforce this amendment with appropriate legislation. the first of the line 1965 voting rights act says, this is a bill to enforce the 15th amendment. so this was a power given to the congress, not to the courts. >> the roberts court in effect said to congress, you can rewrite these standards, you can rewrite the voting rights act. and it's your obligation to do so. any chance that this congress would do that? >> it seems almost impossible because e republican party has become the party of the south. and in a strange way, has taken on the appearance of the old white southern segregationist democra

but as justice ruth bader ginsburg said, that's like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet. >> let me be clear. this was a deeply disappointing and flawed decision. it dealt -- it dealt a serious setback to the cause of voting rights and like all of you, i strongly disagree with the court's action. >> among those testifying will be civil rights icon john lewis when this hearing is held this afternoon. is congress going to do anything here, matt? >> the house of representatives prepare, do they prepare to do anything is the question, right? it's controlled by the republican party right now. what congress has to do, according to supreme court is coming up with a formula that makes sense in 2013 instead of relying on historical racism from 1963 to 1964. that is within their purview. i think it's an open question of how much of that the supreme court would allow if it was then challenged on similar grounds. but i don't know if we have the political kind of agreement right now between both parties so-to-come up with a new formula to figure out which state

>> well, justice ginsburg, the first injury that was before the court was the use of a system which deniedequal treatment. it was a constitutional injury, and part of the damage claim was premised directly on the constitutional issue. >> how do you get past texas v. lesage with that injury, which says that mere use of race is not cognizable injury sufficient for standing? >> lesage was litigated on its merits, and the question was whether lesage could carry his case when -- on summary judgment when it was apparent that his coch was that he was denied access to the graduate program at the university of texas, was not sustainable. as i said -- and there are several factors in this case that are quite different. first, there is a constitutional injury as such, and the court has recognized it. second, the fact premise, she could not have been allowed in under any circumstance, was never tested below, wasn't raised below. it comes up in a footnote in >> can i go to another side? she's graduated. >> correct. >> she disclaimed the desire after her application to go to the school at all. she was p

of what they are saying, and that, i think, is a reading of recent history that certainly justice ginsburgk very strong exception to, evoking the very same history, but reading it in a less optimistic way. >> but didn't, michael, i mean in is another issue that has reverberations in the past which we lead to activism by the judge. >> absolutely. >> one way or the other. >> yes. and that grew out of 1965, the voting rights act, that was one of the crown jewels of the johnson administration under the earl warren, very progressive court, leading on at least the court's side a very different period now and i think even the most dispassionate person would really have to say this is a roll of the dice if we are looking at this 50 years from now it will either be this decision meant that voting rights once again began to get restricted through the country or it worked. >> kenneth mac what what do you think of that on that decision? but also this question of judicial activism on one side or the other, and how that too evolves? >> yes. you notice actually on both of the decisions, the gay marriage

traditional chinese poetry from his father and found his own way to the american beat poet alan ginsburg, whose work was passed around secretly. >> ( translated ): i just admired him and his generation. i wanted to imitate the writing of this so-called lost generation. but i wasn't interested in politics at all. >> reporter: that changed on june 4, 1989, when the chinese government ordered soldiers into tianamen square to put an end to pro-democracy protests. hundreds of students were killed in the gunfire. >> ( translated ): the tianamen massacre changed my life and my thinking. i heard about it through the radio and i was despaired. i was afraid. i felt helpless, so i just shouted out these lines. "leap! howl! fly! run! freedom feels so good snuffing out freedom feels so good! power will be triumphant forever. will be passed down from generation to generation forever." >> reporter: liao's response, a poem, titled "massacre", was a long angry howl against the government. >> ( translated ): "freedom will also come back from the dead. it will come back to life in generation after generati

>> scalia, ginsburg, the chief.was 30 minutes of being pounded, it was a head of tuna being thrown to sharks. i will tell you, i have always like the fact that i sit in my skpaufs i look at a giant painting of me getting my tail whipped 9-0. it's good for instilling humility. that's what it looks like to lose. >> looking ahead to 2016, he says republicans must nominate an unapologetic conservative. in other words, someone who's politics match his own. nationally it looks tough, lost five out of the last six popular votes, presidential elections. 18 states and the district of columbia have gone democratic in all six of the last six presidential races. that's 242 electoral votes. >> if you look at last 40 years, a consistent pattern emerges. any time republicans nominate a candidate for president who runs as a strong conservative, we win. and when we nominate a moderate who doesn't run as a conservative, we lose. >> back in iowa, reporters continue to pepper cruz with questions about his presidential aspirations. is h

at the same time alan ginsburg is coming down to the village to meet were william bureaus. and kerouac comes down and they're living at village. beebop was not started in the village, but drifts down, finds very he receptive audience. people liked jazz in the for a very long time. there was contingent, most of the artists loved bebop because they loved the free expression of it. other people were known as moldy figures because they only likes old time. david ram, the great jazz musician i become friends with and around there and hanging out not own by with the bebopers and kerouac, we hung out together. exaggerated how much fighting was gone on. it was new yorknd village and probably some arguing were going on. as part of all that bee bop, charlie parker comes to the village and lives on lower east side in the east village, greenwich's village's favorite place on earth. at the same time, after vanguard film-makers like darren come to the village. village voice and grove press which was by far the most avant-garde literary publisher at the time begin in the village. norman m