on that it is a compilation of materials exploring justice ginsburg's life and her lasting legacy. we will hear more about her work to end gender discrimination, fighting for equality and protecting the constitution. a quick reminder to the viewers if you have a question please submit that question into the chat. professor, what a pleasure to talk about your book and i am going to begin by asking you where it all started. not the conversation, but the core thing that you did with justice ginsburg in the late '90s, early 2000. how would you describe your relationship at that time? a lot of people that have an opportunity to clerk for a judge wouldn't necessarily. how would you describe it? >> that's interesting because i had to absolutely amazing clerkship experiences and i was lucky to have bosses who became lifelong mentors and also friends. that isn't to say in both cases especially at the supreme court that they were not intends or didn't involve considerable hard work. justice ginsburg many people may know was one of the hardest working individuals and in order to live, she had

my grandmother said who's justice ginsburg? she didn't know who ruth bader ginsburg was and so i explained to her that this was a woman who has done so much to open up opportunities particularly for women and she has changed the landscape for women in this country and my grandmother said my gosh, she's hasas incrediblei am so proud of you will work for her and i went home and wrote the justice a letter and i said please and honored i was to be invited to be her clerk and i relate this story telling my grandparents, she wrote me back and include a letter within the letter my grandmother sent on to my grandmother and had it framed and hung it in a prominent place on her living room wall for the rest of her life so that is also a window into the justice kindness, that didn't take very long for her but she is a supreme court justice, her time is valuable but it was a gesture with a major impact on someone. >> would you describe yourself, the two of you as friends? you tell a funny story about when she found out you were dating some

an outgrowth of justice ginsburg's visit the uc berkeley in 2019. tyler in a few her life. building on the interview the book is a compilation of materials exploring justice ginsburg's life and a lasting legacy we were there more about our work through fighting for equality and protecting the less constitution a quick reminder to our viewers, if you have a question for professor tyler, please submit that question into the chat. .. by asking you where it all started. not the conversation, but the core thing that you did with justice ginsburg in the late '90s, early 2000. how would you describe your relationship at that time? a lot of people that have an opportunity to clerk for a judge >> how do you describe it? >> that's interesting because i had two absolutely exceptional clerk experiences and in both cases i feel as though i was lucky to have bosses who became lifelong mentors and often dear friends. i'm not saying that the internships at the supreme court weren't intense and-- justice ginsburg, one of the hardest working individuals to live. she

an outgrowth of justice ginsburg's visit to uc berkeley in 2019.nterviewed her about her life. building on that interview the book is a compilation of materials exploring justice ginsburg's life and lasting legacy. we will hear more about the work and gender discrimination, fighting for equality and protecting the constitution. a quick reminder to the viewers, if you have a question for professor tyler, please submit that into the chat. i want to begin by asking you kind of where it all started. not the conversation that i mention. we will get to that in just a moment, but the core thing that you did with justice ginsburg in the late '90s and early 2000. how did you describe your relationship at that time? lots of people that have an opportunity to clerked for a judge wouldn't necessarily see it close or friendly. how would you describe it? >> that's interesting because i had exceptional clerkship experiences and in both cases i feel as though i was very lucky to have bosses who became lifelong mentors and also dear friends and that's not to say in

she didn't know who ruth bader ginsburg was. i explained it was this woman who had done so much to open up opportunities particularly for women in this country and had changed the landscape for women in this country. my grandmother said she sounds incredible. i am so proud that you will work for her. i wrote the justice a letter and said how pleased and honored i was to be invited to be her clerk and i related the story. she wrote me back and included a letter within the letter which i sent on to my grandmother and she had it framed in a very prominent place on her living room wall for the rest of her life. so that is a window into the kindness. that didn't take very long but she was a supreme court justice and her time was valuable but it was a gesture that had a major impact on someone. would you describe because you tell a funny story about when she found out you were dating somebody. tell that story. >> shortly after i finished my clerkship i with her i remain vy close with her assistants who were two extraordinary women and

and then ginsburg said that we need another $8 million. so i said, okay, all right, you know, money -- we'll get another $8 million. and then he said, we need another $25 million. and then we asked, well, how much does this darned thing cost? and we all know the answer to that. but let me also say a week after that conversation right here, i was sitting in room 200 with mayor breed and she said -- and i think that this is one of those one-two things. she said, david chu, you heard about this project called india baseip? and i said -- basin. and i said, i have. well, we're making this a priority. and i just have to say, mayor breed, thank you for your leadership. i think that but for you -- and i know that supervisor walton and phil ginsburg and so many folks here, you are the village that is making this happen. so thank you. [applause] let me just end with one thing. so i am a resident. i live about 10 minutes from here and i moved to the southeast neighborhood the day that my son was born five years ago. and i moved -- we moved here in pa

. ♪♪ sunday night on q & a, gary ginsburg, author of "first friends", i've been endlessly fascinatedamerican presidency as a kid and as i grew older, i worked op campaigns and the clinton administration and the leaders best friends and the leader himself and how that best friend could speak in a way that no aide or staffer could and speak more bluntly, act more naturally and i thought with warren beatty and the gary hart complain and fly into major events and speak to the candidates the way no one else around him would at the time and he would say all the time, stop acting and talking like a politician, gary. and gary would get quite roused by that, but he would listen and he would change the way he spoke. and i often thought he would at night with late night conversations and dinners. and i felt the same dynamic was at play in the bill clinton campaign with vernon jordan and how they were of equal stature and what that allowed clinton to get from jordan the way he wouldn't from anyone else in the administration himself mth former clinton administration aid and author of first friend

thank you so much, general manager ginsburg. i guess i want to start just by saying, really, what an honor it's been to be involved with a department that has such a deep relationship with the community. we're really putting our money where our mouth is on this project, so as you'll see, as you see from the budget on the slide, there's money for budgeting and building the park, but also money for the implementation of the initiative that jackie presented and the team developed. and then, in terms of the committed funding, as you can see, we're well on our way in the fundraising through the 2020 bond and other local, state, and national sources of public funding, and then, of course, through the inspirational contribution through john pritzker that phil mentioned at the beginning of this presentation. but we still do have about $37 million left to raise, and we expect that to be largely the private side of this initiative, and we're well on our way to -- we are well underway in the campaign that will secure these funds. and i gue

then he spent the last ten years, number two to ruth bader ginsburg.beral, having more influence in the justices' private sessions. he obviously wants to seize that. maybe he'll seize it one more year which is making lots of people nervous. but i think he'll at least get the next year out and then we'll probably go through a version of what we've gone through this spring in 2022. >> well, what other job do we say that 82-year-olds shouldn't retire? i mean, come on. 82 is not the new anything. 82 is old. he's been on the court since 1994. no one's shoving him off prematurely. what is it with these justices that they can't say, you know what, i've been here for 20 years, 30 years. it's time to go. >> jeffrey, when you in 30 years, when we are getting -- from you, will you change your tune, sir? >> i'm just trying to hang on month to month, you know. >> all right, joan, jeffrey, thank you both for being with us. appreciate it. >>> all right, the price is on the rise at the grocery store. the gas station. putting a strain on the family budget. >>> plus, th

it was reminiscent to me of the dissent of justice ginsburg and shelby county.he pointed out none of the requirements justice alito points to are part of section two of the voting rights act. the court is abandoning its usual approach of disparate impact under federal statutes. she talked about how difficult it would be to show violations of section in the future. twoif you look at the five factors justice alito pointed to, they all make it the focal to prove racial discrimination. they all make it very likely the government would prevail. why does this matter so much? you know many states, recently georgia, florida, arkansas, it -- have imposed significant restrictions on voting. there is strong evidence these have a racially discriminatory impact. the justice department has already brought a challenge to the lot in georgia on this basis. the supreme court's decision will make it much harder to be able to bring successful challenges to these laws. in our country, there are today different narratives about voting. the republican narrative is that voting fraud is

that iin a clip you lay from ruth bader ginsburg.moved beyond that to recognize not just talking about privacy or even a policy, but looking at liberty, dignity, and the ability to have full participation in all aspects of life. amy: how did ireland legalize abortion? >> it was decades of hard work that started well before i went over there, with people who are lling to assist women directly in their travel as well as working in the political realm, working with politicians who were reluctant to step up and sicker heads above the parapet -- not so dissimilar from what we see today. we have to be reasonable indifference to religious views. it was not actually count people -- how people enacted in practice but how much control of government was similar to how we see things going on in texas or the federal level right now. and eventually through different -- bringing a lawsuit challenging the bank at that -- the ban is a human rights issue that what arlen was doing was not rising [indiscernible] leading to a referendum that only gay peo

we are replacing ginsburg in garrett in those cases last year. that is likely to change the margin, but not the outcome. we are likely to have six/three rather than five/four decisions. but there were two decisions a year ago where the majority was different. they reported cases. one was struck down -- one struck down a louisiana law placing restrictions on abortion. another said that president trump could not resend up. -- recent -- reskinned --rescind dhaka --daca. we can predict two things about this term. one is there are six conservative justices appointed by the republican president. two justices appointed by democratic presidents. secondly, we are likely to see fewer five/four decisions. simple arithmetic explains this. liberal justices are now going to get esco votes rather than one -- two votes. those predictions came true this year. that is exactly what we saw. the court decided 54 cases. it is notable that that is the second fewest number decided since 1862. only last year was last. one year ago -- 54 cases this year is really remarkab

and it was justice ginsburg who warned, if you overturn roe, it affects poor women much more than othersan explicit warning that she issued a number of times. can you explain to people why that is? >> reporter: right. in her interviews with you, when she gave -- remember, she often spoke in front of these young liberal audience. she saw the writing on the wall. maybe not that roe would be overturned, but it would be restricted. and she said, look, even if roe is overturned, that means that the issue goes back to the states. but her concern wasn't for women with means, women who could travel across state lines. she was worried about poor women, poor women without the means, poor women living in states hostile to roe who wouldn't be able to travel, buy a bus ticket, buy a plane ticket to another state. that was her concern. and, of course, now she's been replaced by justice amy coney barrett, and barrett was grilled on her views on abortion during her congressional hearings. she really didn't reveal much. but remember way back before she was ever on the bench, she was a notre dame law prof

and then ginsburg said that we need another $8 million. so i said, okay, all right, you know, money -- we'll get another $8 million. and then he said, we need another $25 million. and then we asked, well, how much does this darned thing cost? and we all know the answer to that. but let me also say a week after that conversation right here, i was sitting in room 200 with mayor breed and she said -- and i think that this is one of those one-two things. she said, david chu, you heard about this project called india baseip? and i said -- basin. and i said, i have. well, we're making this a priority. and i just have to say, mayor breed, thank you for your leadership. i think that but for you -- and i know that supervisor walton and phil ginsburg and so many folks here, you are the village that is making this happen. so thank you. [applause] let me just end with one thing. so i am a resident. i live about 10 minutes from here and i moved to the southeast neighborhood the day that my son was born five years ago. and i moved -- we moved here in pa

and justice ginsburg, a liberal. female justices, respectively, in a statement klobuchar put the effort into focus. saying, quote, the capitol is our most recognizable symbol of democracy. a place where people from across our country have their voices represented and heard. it is only fitting that we honor the remarkable lives and service to our country, by establishing statues in the capitol. alaska senator, lisa murkowski, adds their leadership has made a difference for women and families, for generations to come. and how right she is, justice ginsburg argued a series of historic cases before the supreme court before she ever even served as a justice. establishing the equal-citizenship rights of men and women. and before rbg, there was justice sandra day o'connor, the first woman ever seated. an appointment that showed women, too, could reach the pinnacle of america's legal system. normalizing what we would see, in the 1990s, when president clinton nominated a feminist icon to join o'connor on the bench. legislatio

phil ginsburg, your yes has been extraordinary.om the bay bridge lights to the pink triangle to grace cathedral being lit up, to the beautiful conservetory of flowers. thank you. thank you for letting me do what i do and giving me the space of your grace to do my work. i'm grateful. i'm grateful. i'm full of love. i'm so full and i'm so grateful you are all here to bring in the ancestors. thank you. thank you so much. (applause) >> we love you dana! >> i love you miss blue. we're a tiny team, tiny but mighty. (reading names) thank you. thank you. i mentioned january 31st. we started a conversation february 1st. the ancestors were built -- i forgot three people. i have to stop right now. i need to acknowledge alex nolen and john woolworth. rachel arambola. are you here? yes? i heard it. they agreed to do it in seven weeks. it then went to an incredible neighbor named alonso. is he here? and his business partner ryan. they painted the ancestors. and then the 12 women that i introduced you to, including rachel, we finished the ancesto

phil ginsburg, your yes has been extraordinary.ace cathedral being lit up, to the beautiful conservetory of flowers. thank you. thank you for letting me do what i do and giving me the space of your grace to do my work. i'm grateful. i'm grateful. i'm full of love. i'm so full and i'm so grateful you are all here to bring in the ancestors. thank you. thank you so much. (applause) >> we love you dana! >> i love you miss blue. we're a tiny team, tiny but mighty. (reading names) thank you. thank you. i mentioned january 31st. we started a conversation february 1st. the ancestors were built -- i forgot three people. i have to stop right now. i need to acknowledge alex nolen and john woolworth. rachel arambola. are you here? yes? i heard it. they agreed to do it in seven weeks. it then went to an incredible neighbor named alonso. is he here? and his business partner ryan. they painted the ancestors. and then the 12 women that i introduced you to, including rachel, we finished the ancestors. seven weeks time. (applause) we are going to go

james buchanan, william herrick taft or ruth bader ginsburg? >> oh man, can you say them again? franklin pierce, james buchanan, william howard taft or ruth bader ginsburg? >> owa man. i thought was cleveland. [laughter] is a taft? kennedy: yes, spike wins! congratulations! we are sending you some of the used hair trimmings from the greenroom. i don't know if you can walk from there but you're not getting paid. we are going to take money from your. great job, spike. great work. jim comey almost won. >> whatever. ridiculous. [laughter] kennedy: coming up, a search and violent crimes, pleading for more. our they finally realizing their calls to defund the police maybe not a great idea? i'll break that down next. ♪♪ remember when democrat mayors across the u.s. pushed to defund the police? adult out the window now washington d.c., homicides reached 16 year hi, bowser plans to hire 170 new officers. seattle and portland facing similar spikes, theft mayors are calling for more props to retiring in gropes but is it any surprise police want to work in cities that hate complex joining m

and then ginsburg said that we need another $8 million. so i said, okay, all right, you know, money -- we'll get another $8 million. and then he said, we need another $25 million. and then we asked, well, how much does this darned thing cost? and we all know the answer to that. but let me also say a week after that conversation right here, i was sitting in room 200 with mayor breed and she said -- and i think that this is one of those one-two things. she said, david chu, you heard about this project called india baseip? and i said -- basin. and i said, i have. well, we're making this a priority. and i just have to say, mayor breed, thank you for your leadership. i think that but for you -- and i know that supervisor walton and phil ginsburg and so many folks here, you are the village that is making this happen. so thank you. [applause] let me just end with one thing. so i am a resident. i live about 10 minutes from here and i moved to the southeast neighborhood the day that my son was born five years ago. and i moved -- we moved here in pa

and then ginsburg said that we need another $8 million. so i said, okay, all right, you know, money -- we'll get another $8 million. and then he said, we need another $25 million. and then we asked, well, how much does this darned thing cost? and we all know the answer to that. but let me also say a week after that conversation right here, i was sitting in room 200 with mayor breed and she said -- and i think that this is one of those one-two things. she said, david chu, you heard about this project called india baseip? and i said -- basin. and i said, i have. well, we're making this a priority. and i just have to say, mayor breed, thank you for your leadership. i think that but for you -- and i know that supervisor walton and phil ginsburg and so many folks here, you are the village that is making this happen. so thank you. [applause] let me just end with one thing. so i am a resident. i live about 10 minutes from here and i moved to the southeast neighborhood the day that my son was born five years ago. and i moved -- we moved here in pa

here is a portion of the program. >> justice ginsburg, many people may know that if you worked for her knew it was one of the hardest working individuals ever to live. she had an extraordinary work ethic and expected the same of her clerks. she had exacting standards and held us up to those standards but never asked more of us than she asked of herself and i think that is a really special thing about her leadership and her mentorship because she sort of carried you along with her and in effect you wanted to prove yourself to her and rise to your very best. he really pushed you to rise to be your best but also very much invested in the clerks and in real time. it wasn't something that came necessarily just later. for example when you would go back and forth with one of her, one of the things clerks do with writing with justices when we would give a draft opinion in triple spaced pages and it would come back completely covered in ink and this happened again with the book 20 years later. we can get to that in a bit, but she would then sit down with you and i remember going to her house an

in new books out with all the behind the scenes details, joining me now gary ginsburg, the author ofnds: the powerful unsung and unelected people who shaped our presidents." gary, welcome to the show. what a fascinating book. i want to start with the why. why did you write this book? it's certainly relevant if you look at the news tonight. i know you didn't include former president trump the president. but let's talk about the why you wrote this book. why? >> thank you for having me, laura. well, since i was a little kid, i have wibeen fascinated with t presidency. i worked in the clinton administration. i came to witness some really remarkable close friendship between leaders and their best friends. and i saw how this friend could speak more bluntly, act more naturally than any staffer or aid could and even in some cases how the meaningful impact on pretty consequential decisions. to my surprise, there's been little written about this dyn dynamic. there has been books about first wives, first pets, first butlers, but nothing about first friends, so i decided to write the book. >> th

and applause >> jimmy: now, heather, ruth bader ginsburg -- is your tortoise a baby tortoise >> yeahh-old, that's pretty young to have a talent. what is -- what is her special talent >> when i put her in her house, she gives me a high five >> jimmy: like, right now if you put your finger, would she give you a high five now, not in the tank? >> hm. >> jimmy: yeah, there you go there you go now -- [ cheers and applause yep, she's thinking about it she's think -- yes [ cheers and applause ♪ that's what i'm talking about! that's what i'm talking about! that's what i'm talking about! yes! that is a talented, talented tortoise, right there! thank you for that i loved it all right, let's meet our next pet. hello. welcome. what is your name, and where are you from >> my name is caroline, and i'm from nashville, tennessee. >> jimmy: oh [ cheers and applause ♪ we love nashville, tennessee i had some great times over in nashville, tennessee now, who do you have there with us what's the name of the dog here >> this is tuesday she's a golden retriever >> jimmy: oh, hi tuesday hi tuesday hi tuesda

he's -- he hasn't had any of the kinds of health problems that plagued justice ginsburg through fourferent cancer ordeals. he's relatively healthy. but to the point of his second consideration, the court, this is a man who is very much of an institutionalist, who thinks he can bring consensus to the court, you know, across the ideological factions. he's kind of an old school justice in that regard, where he doesn't want to think of the court as it's polarized with six republican appointed conservatives and three democratic appointed liberals. he tries to sort of break up that idea. and he thinks about the institution, you know, in terms of its integrity in the american eye. so that's how i understood his regard for the court. >> joan, he is a smart man. obviously that goes without saying. and the reason i say that, i remind people he knew you were going to ask this when he agreed to sit down with you for coffee in rural new hampshire. i want to know why he said yes, then. >> that's a good question. i went up to see him, and i had several things to talk to him about. you know, toward

he's trying to promote it as a sitting justice, and i think his idea about what happened with ginsburgecause theoretically the senate would stay democratic. obviously it's just a one-vote democratic senate right now. there's a risk there because something could happen to someone. >> a democratic senator could die. >> exactly right, but let's say that doesn't happen and let's hope it doesn't happen for all the reasons we wouldn't want somebody to die, you know, unexpectedly. the mid-term elections would be next november of 2022, and he could -- he could go at the end of next term, stick around, decide some of the abortion -- the abortion and gun rights cases, things that he believes he could have a strong hand in. >> all right. interesting. so maybe he'll retire next june, but who knows. no indications that he will. another great scoop. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> we're just up week away from the lifnlgs, and we're learning one of the most iconic part of the medal ceremony is going away because of covid. stick around. ♪ ♪ oh, son of a poppyseed! ah, there's no pl

i think that ruth bader ginsburg in her later years really looked to harlan as an example of which heted her, her own legacy to be. >> yang: the book is "the great dissenter: the story of john marshall harlan, america's judicial hero," the author, peter canellos. peter, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: and a quick announcement before we say goodnight. the newshour has launched a new digital series called“ 5 stories" in each episode, host deema zein will recap five captivating stories you may have missed, all in about three minutes. you can find the latest episode every friday on our youtube channel or on our website, that's pbs.org/newshour. stay with pbs, you don't want to miss yamiche alcindor and her panel unpack the criminal charges against the trump organization and top executive. that's tonight on "washington week." and be sure to join us here on monday for my rare, wide-ranging interview with former president jimmy carter, and his wife rosalyn as they prepare to celebrate their 75th wedding anniversary. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join

the author, gary ginsburg joins me. gary, great to see you. a book and the examples you chose were phenomenal. why did you decide to do this? >> well, since i was a young kid i've always been fascinated by the american presidency. when i got older i worked on presidential campaigns then i worked in the clinton administration. i came to witness some really remarkable close friendships between leaders and their best friends and i learned to appreciate how this friend could speak more bluntly, act more naturally than any staffer or aide could. and even in some cases as i write, have a meaningful impact on consequential decisions. to my surprise there's been very little written about this dynamic, almost nothing in presidential literature. books about first wives, first pets, first chefs, even first butt letters, but not first friends. so i decided to write the book. >> you talk about the impact of history. how about israel? president true man's friend eddy jacobson. let's talk about the friend he had from the habadashery. someone with deep in sec

as justice ginsburg, the late justice ginsburg wrote in her dissent, it was like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you're not getting wet. well, the storm of voter suppression is most certainly pouring over us now. mr. president, in 2020, in the midst of an ongoing global health pandemic, our nation held one of the most successful and secure elections in our history. voters of color made their voices heard in record numbers and confirmed again that our democracy is strongest when all eligible americans are able to participate. but instead of celebrating this remarkable achievement, republican legislative leaders in statehouses around the country, this year have proposed and passed bill after bill after bill restricting the right to vote and restricting access to the ballot. they're doing this on the basis of lies about voter fraud and rooted firmly in the legacy of white supremacy. they continue to do so as we speak. the supreme court's most recent antidemocracy decision in the byrne -- brnovich case which eviscerated a key protection of the voting rights act will only embol

. >> i'm john ginsburg and since nobody else seems to be here to do, it all introduce our panel for this evening. in this look back at justice, thurgood marshall. to my immediate left, if you have not guessed it is a justice elena kagan. justice kagan was with a justice marshal in what year? >> 80. seven >> 87, seems like yesterday. that was after having attended princeton and then oxford and then harvard for law and served at this chambers as a law clerk, indeed all of our panelists this evening clerk for one charge or another on the d.c. circuit, as this i. >> it's a good court. >> it was a great court. and was in the white house counsel's office and then the clinton administration and then in the policy council as deputy director. couldn't keep her job apparently, that's why the university chicago law school and then after getting tenure there, moved on and settled at harvard after a long long after that became the dean of the harvard law school and then couldn't keep that job either and became associate -- solicitor general first and then associate justice of the supreme court. georg

hoover franklin pierce, james buchanan, william howard taft or ruth bader ginsburg. >> oh man i thoughtending you some of the use hair trimmings from the greenroom. kennedy: and getting paid now. kennedy: i'm not getting paid you're getting money from you. great job spike thanks about shoot jimmy, jessica and spike great work. jimmy you almost won. it. [laughter] >> whatever this is ridiculous. super coming up the surgeon violent parameters cities has some mayors and pleading for more cops. of the finally realizing their call to defend the police? might not be a great idea. i will be with clark neily next. monitor, check and lock down you money with security from chase. control feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. there's an america we build and one we explore. one that's been paved and one that's forever wild. but freedom means you don't have to choose just one adventure. you get both. introducing the wildly civilized all-new 3-row jeep grand cherokee l seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. introducing the wildly civilized new parodontax activ

. >> all right, gary ginsburg, it sounds like a great book, i'm going to check this out because i justt think about who are very involved in the lives of our presidents. "first friends: the powerful unsung and unelected people who shape our presidents." gary ginsburg, author of that book, thanks so much for joining us, we appreciate it. >>> in the sitcom world, the workplace is an endless source of comedy from "murphy brown," to "the office" and "veep." next, the iconic characters who are working for laughs. >> get out of my way, i'm going to kill everybody until i get out of here. >> boy, do i hate to start a day like this. >> hal linden is basically the bob newhart of that office, surrounded by all the craziness. >> lenny is my other personality. >> got the same address? >> the workplace comedy is great because all the characters come in and they're not related. so they don't have something in common. >> turned out to be a diverse cast which was i guess different in those days. >> jack su, gregory sierra, ron glass, that was pretty unusual and revolutionary. >> and be sure to tune in

author gary ginsburg joins me now. first explain what got you interested in this?campaign and saw something that made you think about this and what eventually led to this book. what was it? >> i did. actually even before i worked for gary hart, since grade school i've just been endlessly fascinated by the american presidency. then i worked on gary hart's campaign and later worked in the clinton administration and watched close friendships between leaders and their best friends. with hart i saw warren beatty. i watched his friendship with gary hart during the 1984 campaign when beatty would parachute in from major campaign events and was the only one around hart who could talk to him in a blunt way. he said top talking and acting like a politician in a way nobody else could and hart would listen to him. i saw vernon jordan and the role he played with bill clinton in the 1990s when he was the only one around him who had actual stature and could speak to him in a way nobody else could. so i saw an entirely different kind of relationship between a leader and anybody el

and then ginsburg said that we need another $8 million.said, okay, all right, you know, money -- we'll get another $8 million. and then he said, we need another $25 million. and then we asked, well, how much does this darned thing cost? and we all know the answer to that. but let me also say a week after that conversation right here, i was sitting in room 200 with mayor breed and she said -- and i think that this is one of those one-two things. she said, david chu, you heard about this project called india baseip? and i said -- basin. and i said, i have. well, we're making this a priority. and i just have to say, mayor breed, thank you for your leadership. i think that but for you -- and i know that supervisor walton and phil ginsburg and so many folks here, you are the village that is making this happen. so thank you. [applause] let me just end with one thing. so i am a resident. i live about 10 minutes from here and i moved to the southeast neighborhood the day that my son was born five years ago. and i moved -- we moved here in part bec

phil ginsburg and his staff, and the rec park commission, amazing partners throughout this. drew becker, mya rogers with the san francisco parks alliance. also amazing partners. jackie flynn and the apri staff, having worked tirelessly, you know, you have seen them operating the tech hub and really fighting hard for this community. and then the many other groups -- there are too many to mentiog support for this. of course, our elected leaders. without you, mayor breed, supervisor walton, without assembly member chu and phil king and senator wiener we wouldn't be here. as you heard, there's a lot of investment in this project. also our funders -- john fritzer and his funds for taking the risk and the same with the public funders. you know, they took a risk. they invested. they believed in this community and last, but not least, i want to acknowledge again the bayview hunter's point community for their resilience and advocacy. without you we wouldn't be here thank you very much. [applause] >> thanks, ali. i made a quick mistake in the program, we always have different updates

. >> and then you want in 2187 / two ruling ginsburg and sotomayor were dissented of course but that was an amazing occasion but what was that like when you one quick. >> that was just as emotional i was even more surprised because it was three weeks before the end of the session i was confident they would make the announcement until the last day. and then to say we have masterpiece. >> seven / two so what just happened? then the phone starts ringing and people are driving by and honking and waving it was just incredible. host: it is like to david and goliath. >> so what was one of the keys to winning the case according to the supreme court? why did they ruled in your favor? >> one of the key factors was the commissioner comparing my case to the holocaust i forget how they phrased it but in permissible hostility. permissible hostility. . . what does that mean again? >> that congress shall pass no law that establishing religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. so in essence they were saying you can have your religion and do whatever you want to you just can't exercise, you ca

phil ginsburg, your yes has been extraordinary.om the bay bridge lights to the pink triangle to grace cathedral being lit up, to the beautiful conservetory of flowers. thank you. thank you for letting me do what i do and giving me the space of your grace to do my work. i'm grateful. i'm grateful. i'm full of love. i'm so full and i'm so grateful you are all here to bring in the ancestors. thank you. thank you so much. (applause) >> we love you dana! >> i love you miss blue. we're a tiny team, tiny but mighty. (reading names) thank you. thank you. i mentioned january 31st. we started a conversation february 1st. the ancestors were built -- i forgot three people. i have to stop right now. i need to acknowledge alex nolen and john woolworth. rachel arambola. are you here? yes? i heard it. they agreed to do it in seven weeks. it then went to an incredible neighbor named alonso. is he here? and his business partner ryan. they painted the ancestors. and then the 12 women that i introduced you to, including rachel, we finished the ancesto