still ginzberg, i have -- phil ginsberg, a question for you. this is an anonymous question. >> which is that are really passionate speech about revenue and tradeoffs. i would rather charge to see an area brother then shutter its. the botanical garden is one small strategy among many a times to replace the money we need to cut would revenue, so we can provide services to our community. we did note joy out of charging -- get no joy out of charging fees. but our primary mission is to keep our parks clean and safe. the botanical garden is a treasure. 25 acres of bliss. 55 acres. tin gardners. do you know how many gardeners i can afford? 3. difficult choices. we get no joy in charging fees. we will fight, fight, fight to raise revenues so we can continue to provide services to our community. supervisor cohen: ok. we have five minutes. i am going to give mayor lee an opportunity -- >> [unintelligible] we need to hear from you, supervisors, the mayor, and everybody here. we need to hear from you all. i ask respectfully you make a comment about that. s