devil's advocate, the mostly true story of giovanni destefano starts right now. >> i am a born catholic. i would not like to be excluded from heaven on a technicality. my name is giovanni di stefano. i am a lawyer. best known as the devil's advocate. i have defended the indefensible from saddam hussein to charles manson. -- they want a person who they believe has got away with them. if i've committed anything that the media had alleged, i would not be a free man. am i going to be condemned and convicted? on a television program? ♪ ♪ ♪ >> devil's advocate, mr. murder, call him what you will -- the who's who of the criminal world. >> giovanni destefano is one of the attorneys representing saddam hussein. mr. de stefano, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> -- committed the most serious of criminal offenses. do you believe that? i really don't care. i don't live in a fantasy land. ♪ ♪ ♪ the legal world of london is a bit of a village really. it's elitist. the judges and lawyers come from the same place. they've been school together. they will tell jokes among themselves. and along came

here's the preview. >> in 1990, i was a reporter on a nightly show. >> giovanni destefano was a mogulhad $70 million to spend. >> new zealand office any businessman three times the return of their money with excellent cash flow within two years. >> there was a good news story, because we just came out of a recession. >> here there with somebody -- but the more i looked at him, the more listen, the more watched him i thought there was something very wrong. there's a whole lot of things that don't add up. >> you can catch episodes one and two of the devils advocate at ten right after this show right here on msnbc and streaming on peacock. c an streaming on peacock streaming on peacock patients should act now to prevent sensitivity in the future. the new sensodyne nourish will help patients invest in healthier teeth. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! (sighs wearily) here i'll take that! (excited yell) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one gram of sugar, and nutrients to support im

. >> giovanni destefano is one of the attorneys representing saddam hussein. mr.efano, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> -- committed the most serious of criminal offenses. do you believe that? i really don't care. i don't live in a fantasy land. ♪ ♪ ♪ the legal world of london is a bit of a village really. it's elitist. the judges and lawyers come from the same chambers. they've been school together. they will tell latin jokes among themselves. and along came this very unusual lawyer. with a love of tv cameras and seeing himself on the screen. >> one, two, three. do you vanity stefano. giovanni di stefano. >> the first time i came across giovanni di stefano, he was fussing around in the corridors. no time for us reporters. he was a complete and utter outsider. >> i had heard of giovanni di stefano through the grapevine. and to start with everybody just thought he was slightly a bit of an odd character. >> i had been introduced to him, yeah, we could do something together. we had -- he had that slightly manic way about him. he made himself big enough by bei

. >> giovanni destefano is one of the attorneys representing saddam hussein. mr. di stefano, good morning to you. >> good morning. ♪ ♪ ♪ [inaudible] >> he really believed that. it's a matter for you, i really don't care. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> by this stage in my career, i was the longest serving officer in the city of london. it wasn't it uncommon occurrence, if we say someone -- he could say, could you have a look at this? so, cases like this, high profile, count me as a lawyer. they would find my way -- [inaudible] >> hi. >> welcome back to our viewers in the u.s. and around the world. the man often called the butcher of the balkans by his critics was found dead at his mansion. the un said on saturday. >> it was clear it was politics. it was clear that di stefano it's gonna be a fire of justice. and he will take on the legal establishment. >> -- was genuinely eerie. what he should've done last year is to have stopped the trial. they should have had the courage to stop the trial, and let him go, and let him die with dignity. >> di stefano was very much, i wouldn't use the wor

giovanni destefano joins us now.was holding the phone going, yeah, yeah, yeah. i did not believe, it literally. >> i gotta ask you, why do you take these cases? >> i was asked, it was as simple as that. >> i don't think giovanni ever took a view about whether's client was actually guilty or innocent. i think he firmly believed that there should be a fair trial of the issues. >> the whole world is not beginning to have its doubts, not only on the legality of the war. but if the war was illegal, why not charge this man? where are the charges? >> whenever we might think about clients, does not mean that we just hang them or shoot them, we have a draft, we have a process. >> if you want to breach democracy and the gospel according to democracy and other countries, we have got to start with doing things properly. >> one of the cold and threats of british justice is that every man is entitled to the best possible defense, because even the double deserves a fair say when he is brought before a court. >> catch the first two

tomorrow, msnbc will shoot the final episode of the devils advocate, the most nature story of giovanni destefano disgraced con man. here's a quick preview. >> in 1990, i was a reporter on the program called the home show, which was a nightly current affairs show. gia vanity stefano, the mogul from mgm waltzes into town with pockets full of cash. saying, he had $70 million to spend. >> new zealand offers to any businessman three times the return of their money with cash flow within two years. >> there was a good news story because we had just got out of a recession. >> here there was somebody buying a property but the more i looked at it, the more i listened, there was something very wrong here. there were a whole lot of things that do not add up. >> watch the third and final episode of devils advocate tomorrow on 10 pm eastern on msnbc and streaming on peacock. if you missed episodes one and two, catch up now on peacock. thank you for making time for us this evening. did you know that you could hear the latest news and updates from all of your favor msnbc see hosts anytime, anywhere, on any devi

the mostly true story of giovanni destefano.ssein has been captured in his northern iraqi hometown of to quite. >> he ruled for a decade with torture and terror, so if you're a lawyer, how do you defend him? particularly when you can't even meet with your client? johnny destefano joins us now in this exclusive interview, trent thank you so much sir for joining us on the program. >>. thank you >> i actually didn't think it was true. then he was talking about whatever he was doing over there, i was holding the phone going yeah, yeah, i didn't believe it, literally. >> the question i've got to ask you. why do you take these cases? >> i was asked, it was a simple as that. >> i don't think giovanni ever took a view about whether his client was actually guilty or innocent. i think he firmly believed that there should be a fair trial of the issues. >> the whole world is now beginning to have its doubt. not only on the legality of the war, but if the war was so legal, why not charge this man? where the charges? >> whatever we might thin

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