admiral girard is very straightforward. we knew the role the military was playing with general purna. here's what is new today. mckesson came forward and said here's what we do. we knew they handled vaccines and syringes and they distribute it. we knew they're number 1 in terms of medicine distribution, pharmaceuticals. they sounded very re-assuring today about how they're going to do it and how extensive it's going to be. and then fold in fed ex and ups. as you said, they have the planes and the viles in the boxes. 5,000 viles per box. they got the boxes, temperature controlled and a program called tiberius that will monitor that temperature control. all of this is the flesh on the bones that makes america listening and watching this re-assured that it is actually going to deliver millions of doses in a safe and effective why. >> bill: it's amazing stuff here. they're taking a break inside the room right now. when they continue and resume there, we'll take our viewers back inside. you're about halfway through the program.

when you heard admiral girard say there is no science shutting down the restaurants.ting you down on a hunch. >> that's 1,000% right. we found out that 4% of the covid cases can be traced back to restaurants. not 30%, not 40%. 4%. and shopping malls that are allowed to be open in michigan have a 9% rate. so it makes no sense. yesterday the governor came out and said things are still spiking and we're going to have to continue to do this pause. well, if it's still spiking it is not because of restaurants. you've shut us down for the last three weeks. it doesn't make sense. restaurant industry in michigan has been operating with 265 days between being shut down for 103 and another 160 days of only working at a 50% capacity. they've tied our hands behind our back and through all that hall the restaurants just want to try to reopen. >> trace: all the restaurants -- we're short and time and apologize we feel your plight and seen it across the country. we're pulling for you. best of luck to both of you and we'll check back in to see how it all comes out. >> thanks, trace. >

sara girard is an investigative reporter at wink news a local tv station in florida and earlier explainedhe governor announced that people over the age of 65 would be included in this roll—out, lee county said, ok, it's first come first serve. so that led to a lot of people coming out to these locations, some 2a hours in advance, as you said, they brought their lawn chairs, they brought things to read, just to sit there in order to get the vaccine as one of the first people getting the vaccine. and surrounding counties have now started doing appointment services or even drive—through services, and appointments are just getting filled up extremely quickly. here in lee county, they are still working out logistics. i spoke to people online who said they wish they didn't have to do it this way, but they think it's worth it to get the vaccine as soon as possible. so were you talking to people who had actually spent the night outside in line waiting for this? yes, and a lot of them told me this wasn't sustainable. so i talked to people who woke up at two or three o'clock in the morning, one gen

sara girard is an investigative reporter at wink news a local tv station in florida, she joins us from. you have been covering the roll—out of the vaccination procedure across lee cou nty vaccination procedure across lee county in florida. talk us through it. because what we have seen as it has been far from straightforward. yes, thank you for having me. so, basically, when the governor announced that people over the age of 65 would be included in this role outcome of the county said, ok, it's first come first serve. so that led toa first come first serve. so that led to a lot of people coming out to these locations, some 2a hours in advance, as you said, they brought their lawn chairs, they brought things to read, just to sit there in order to get the vaccine as one of the first people getting the vaccine. and surrounding counties have now started doing appointment services or have now started doing appointment services 01’ even have now started doing appointment services or even drive—through services or even drive—through services and appointments are just getting filled up extremel

. >> coronavirus task force member brent girard says most americans will be up to get a vaccine by lateing. todd: is quite a press conference. carley: fda official playing a pivotal role in the vaccine approval process 6 planes what happens when the fda gets it done. >> the advisory committee makes further recommendations about use of the vaccine. vaccine will get into general furnace ads and they will get out there and we will activate our safety surveillance. carley: peter mark said the agency hopes it will be able to vaccinate everyone by late spring. medical contributor dr. janette nesheiwat will join us with an update on the pfizer covid-19 vaccine. todd: congressman ken buck pressuring the doj to investigate hunter biden as alleged business dealings, call on a republican sounding off to sean hannity. >> there is a serious pattern of corruption that hunter biden has engaged in, two days after a burisma board member met with joe biden that hunter biden goes on the board of burisma and get 83,$000 a month in payments, 12 days after hunter biden is on a plane with his dad going to chi

here you have admiral girard saying we don't have that evidence. cases around the country of people challenging the closure of schools. before the election we had commercials being run that president trump is trying to kill your children by keeping schools open. now after the election the experts are saying no, we never had that evidence for particularly younger school kids. so for those who are saying follow the science, the science seems to be chasing after them and saying well, you need to establish that these categorical rules are necessary. that's not belittling the situation we're in. state officials have serious problems in terms of e.r. rooms getting overcrowded, limited hospital bed space but these judges are going to say well, you need to show me the science. why is it clear you can't allow outdoor dining when our own task force is saying we don't know where it's coming from. >> sandra: he went as far as to say he wasn't opposed to limited indoor dining. of course, pushing social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing, of course. but what

. >> we had admiral brett girard on. i want to play some of his reaction to the variant and get your thoughts. >> it is not any more lethal or dangerous than the normal coronavirus, no evidence to suggest it, no evidence to believe it. also no evidence to suggest or believe it would evade our vaccines we have now. our vaccines develop antibodies against multiple parts of the spike protein, not just the mutated one. so we're encouraged ant that, but, of course, we have work to do to understand this more fully. >> can you talk about that work he said that needs to be done to understand it more fully? how long does that take? >> we'll get more information as we study this variant. i think it'll take on the order of weeks. but that is what the virus does. we still have the ability, as citizens, to take action and protect ourselves. the other comment made is key, if you look at the virus, part of the beauty of how these vaccines are being designed is to design multiple antibodies to the spike proteins. that's one of the reaso

leading off our discussion tonight, annan girardes and adam kessler. annan, let me start with you. there is a report out tonight from someone who worked for trump the last four years asking a simple question, was it worth it? this is what former chief of staff john kelly said. the vast majority of people who worked in the white house did what they could to serve the nation. they've unfortunately paid quite a price for that in reputation and future employment. they don't deserve that. they deserve bern that because they kept the train from careening off the track. >> i think it's always better to avoid train talk whether it's off the track, on the track. donald trump is no better than au autocrats when it's not about him. this is all about him. something that does distinguish him from some autoclats is efficien efficiency, computational organizational skills. in the long run there will be some small feeling that we lucked out in getting the particular flavor of autocrat who is not good at autocracy. trump's order on democracy is kind of like the finish me kick. we need to talk more

with us ahead of the open, first on cnbc, is upstart's co-founder and ceo dave girard.ave you this hasn't started trading yet but let's help investors understand your business you're in lending and in the data business. what's the data set you're working with >> so, we are an ar lending platform that basically means applying ai to the problem of consumer lending. we do that by helping banks originate better loans, that are more accurate in terms of predicting who's likely to default, and that means using all sorts of data to have a more informed decision, and one that can result in letting banks approve two to three times as many borrowers as the same loss rates as they would otherwise. >> you say all sorts of data what kind of dates, aside from transactional data, are you talking about and where are you getting it >> so, the data is very broad. it certainly means the traditional data you would get from a credit report we use hundreds and hundreds of variables there. it also could mean where somebody's employed, the industry they're in, their background with respect to

for more let's bring in gerard cassidy, mike santoli still with us as well girard you are seeing theboard. no surprise certainly as investors are anticipating some of that capital to be return you had to shareholders. how quickly do you think banks could get started doing that >> right off the bat this is really good news, the way your colleague reported it, none of us were expecting the banks to be given permission to go back into buying their stocks we could see that in the first quarter of 2021. that's been one of the real missing points for the bank stocks is their ability to go in and buy back their stock. >> what's it worth, gerard we are seeing 2% 3,% moves here after-hours. could it be one of those longer term tail winds that gets banks up they are still underperforming the rest of the market. >> you are right year to date, the performance has been awful for the banks however, since the first announcement of the pfizer vaccine, the bank stocks have outperformed the market almost by double. now, with this news, it's even better so it is a long tail the banks, as you know, unde

. >> sandra: when we asked admiral girard about that earlier this week he was dumbfounded as to why they would say no outdoor dining saying there is no science that points to this being a spread of the virus. the admiral earlier. >> what really breaks my heart is that i don't know of any data that says you need to shut down outdoor dining or outdoor bars. we really wanted to limit the indoor crowded places. i think we need to do what is necessary to turn the pandemic but not more that's not evidenced based and counterproductive. >> more from the judge's ruling. the restaurant closure order says is an abuse of the department's emergency powers. is not grounded in science, evidence, or logic and should be adjudicated to be unenforceable as a matter of law but not much they can do to reopen their doors considering the state's shutdown orders. >> well i would say this is not irrelevant because it kind of points a path to now challenge these latest orders. what they are saying now to enforce this general stay at home order is we have rising numbers of cases of people in intensive care units.

girard who made a lot of news. i don't understand what california shut down outdoor dining.ow that outdoor dining is a -- concerns him as a method of spread of the virus. so he was pointing out the science opposite of what the state was in shutting down those restaurants when it comes to kids in school the top health officials say in some cases the safest place for kids to be because they are maxed and social distanced. you pointed this out and then you've been let go from the hospital. did they give you a specific explanation for that firing? >> well, it was clearly related to the letter. >> sandra: did they say that? did they provide that explanation? >> it was within a week of doing that and no, they have not put that down in writing but that's pretty clear. this really isn't about me and my job. this is -- that's a great hospital. they are doing amazing things. the doctors and nurses there caking care of covid patients are risking their health every day. they got the first round of the vaccine and let me tell you, it is a big relief for them. because they can come to wor

and jonathan, what's so interesting about this pushback from the white house is admiral girard explainedey are responsible for the distribution of the vaccines, but the states are responsible for the vaccinations. well, as we well know, states are stretched then. they are cash strapped now ten months into this pandemic, and what they are looking for is stronger federal intervention. it was the same thing with testing. the administration kept saying for months that more test kits are being rolled out to states, but yet we knew that the tests weren't actually being administered and it was because the states needed more help from the federal government. what we heard from joe biden yesterday was not a plan to get vaccines distributed. it was a plan to get vaccines into the arms of americans. he talked about how he would invoke the defense production act to ramp up the production of vaccines, but also the protective gear needed to administer it. he called for additional funding from congress so that the states could get the money they need to really stand up. he even talked about creating va