i don't see a hand. >> commissioner giraudo. thank you for answer my questions i have a bit more with the information sharing. is there a cost to the participating institutions like in care every where? great question. and this came up in the policy and procedure group at the state level. because it was absent in the statute. the short answer s if we need to connect to a different provider for exchange service, which is possible. then, yes, could be a participation fee. much like there is for care e questions of lawity special healing exchange. >> one of my occurrence for some institutions that i deal with the cost has been impediments they don't participate. that is one of that. my other question also on the information sharing -- what about hipa? >> the data framework statute and the policies and sxroers data sharing agreement were built based off the federal standard, trusted exchange framework and certificate authority or agreement. and it is completely alined with hipa employed framework cannot supercede hipa. and only one