>> it is better for the company, but i agree that time and half, giting an extra shift as much as we would like everyone to enjoy the holiday season, i think that a lot of the workers they know are excited to get the extra hours and don't really mind ging up a holiday . also hopefully we'll see it short term where moving away from being a traditional christmas type of holiday . people who don't celebrate would like to work as well >> we have had discussion about the black friday and walmart workers were protesting that. do you think it is fair to the workers wh want the holiday off are asked to come n it is family time. >> i don't think it is it a quep of fair or unfair. if they are worried about it legality the workers themselves decide. we are not a totalitarian government. if you don't work you are fired. that's crazy . let t workers decide. they are giving up their christmas and family that dape. it is it a traditional day and sometimes it is better that they don't work on the day and better for them without them knowing it. that day is set aside for a family and for a special oc

it is sad and tragic, but has a way of giting you through these things . >> it is going to take a lotime. it is a week before christmas and words can't compless. but just being there. you don't need to stay manage and having people who love you and knowing suppose. >> i don't think i would be forgiving as a christian. i can't imagine this pain. you lose your child and someone kills your kid. i know what jesus did on the cross, but i am not jesus as awe lot of people know. i am showers, i don't know how you do that. >> sean, you never were in thuation and you don't have the grace and fathom that. a couple of people ared are you angry. ask one said we haven't we are just too sad. if i would angry, too. i would lose my mind. there are phases of the anger and grief and you dealt with parents that lost their kids. >> it is unnatural. you don't expect to lose your child . you go through the pain. and the thing you do is get stuck in one area. hopefully they will fiped the support. and when you think about it, if that child could come back. they would not want that child stuck. my encouragem

practical point, gite on the sunday show said all the democrats support this. that is not true.ocrats, landrieu, begich and north carolina -- i can't remember her name -- they are on all on record saying i don't think i'm for this. he has even a harder time convincing those on the democratic side to go with his plan. >> greg: one day explain why are you punishing the rich when you know it won't benefit anything? that is a punitive idea and pay more than anyone in country. >> eric: we have to go. why are american jobs on the chopping block because of animals like to prairie chicken? dana explains how environmentalists are running wild. that's next on "the five." everyone loves surprise parties. yeah, so last week we had a surprise party for our dear friend, lizzy. surprise! surprise! surprise! surprise! we totally got her! [ male announcer ] when you combine creamy velveeta with zesty rotel tomatoes and green chiles, you'll get a bowl of queso that makes even this get-together betr. if we want to improve you'll geour schools...eso ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings

they don't spend too much money they don't should saying it is our responsible to make sure they are gitingost . that i can sure they are times and targeted. governors of new york and jers. asked for it 79.billion and this is well short of governors and senators are thankful for the money and senators say it is it a tough fight in the congress given the fiscal cliff . members are not friendly to disaster relief. but the care has given a good head start. president obama signed an executive ordering the tax force . it will be shared by the secretary of housing and urban. >> and tough words from mike huckabee. when it comes to the bible. american is ignorant. >> news anchors and enterstain tainers who think they understand. they will have weird ideas about what the and. he goes on to say there is it a lack of understanding about who jesus is. is america bib biblically ignorant. i will read thos responses later in the hour. >> the economic forecast remains challenging . we'll see more unemployment lines in 2013. art lakker has more . rest sure there is home. reverend franklin talks about faith

secretary gite it go says today that we will hit debt ceiling on december 31, new year's eve. buys a couple of months. it proves even if we get through the fiscal cliff situation we are headed for a major showdown next year. >> doug: ed henry traveling with the president in honolulu. what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff? molly henneberg explains it means more money of the of your wallet. >> taxes are going up on everyone immediately. if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial dollars. $500,000 to $1 million pays $34,000 more. they want $215,000 on top of what you pay in taxes. >> the wealth manager says the money you have left as far as businesse

practical point, gite on the sunday show said all the democrats support this. that is not true.ocrats, landrieu, begich and north carolina -- i can't remember her name -- they are on all on record saying i don't think i'm for this. he has even a harder time convincing those on the democratic side to go with his plan. >> greg: one day explain why are you punishing the rich when you know it won't benefit anything? that is a punitive idea and pay more than anyone in country. >> eric: we have to go. why are american jobs on the chopping block because of animals like to prairie chicken? dana explains how environmentalists are running wild. that's next on "the five." >> announcer: 'tis the season of more-- more shopping, more dining out... and along with it, more identity theft. by the time this holiday season is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the l

consistent with simpson-bowles, and i think that'sed gite post -- guide post at this point.t concerns me is they are as stubborn now as they were in the beginning, maybe for all the right reasons, but i talked to a democratic senator who says don't touch entitlements. republicans who say don't touch defense, and, in fact, don't even address -- republicans say tax rates, we might be open to limiting deductions and the like so there's a lot off the table to each party, and not much time to put something back on the table for either party. what happens? >> yeah, but that's what i would expect. these are big questions, matter a lot to people as they should. neil: i'm worried, questions coming with a couple days to go, really, do you think they have to have an outline of the deal to go through the process to get one voted on. >> yeah, and i think they will achieve a deal, and i think, you know, the president has to give up more on the spending side and the republicans have to give up more on the revenue side, but i think they are dancing around it, and they will actually get it d

secretary gite it go says today that we will hit debt ceiling on december 31, new year's eve. buys a couple of months. it proves even if we get through the fiscal cliff situation we are headed for a major showdown next year. >> doug: ed henry traveling with the president in honolulu. what happens if we go over the fiscal cliff? molly henneberg explains it means more money of the of your wallet. >> taxes are going up on everyone immediately. if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial dollars. $500,000 to $1 million pays $34,000 more. they want $215,000 on top of what you pay in taxes. >> the wealth manager says the money you have left won't go as far as

. >> the treasury secretary gite neither says the -- tab eitner says they are ready to go over the cliff. if republicans won't let the tax cuts expire, they say it is not a threat. shepherd? >> it is easy to say why they would be making those statements when there was a recent survey that showed 53% of people said if we do go over the cliff they blame the republican congress. less than 30% would blame the president. so it would appear at least from that survey that he has the people on his side. the civil war in syria takes a frightening new turn. it is an awful day in syria. leon panetta warning that there will be consequences if the assad regime uses chemical weapons on their people. what are these weapons and what do they do? how deadly are they? and what might the u.s. response be if they are used? and another government agency in serious financial straits, but this time it is the administration that ensures millions of home mortgages. ahead, a live report on what it could mean for the housing crisis which you are getting out of, right? that's all ahead as we approach the bottom of t

we have to look at cutting spending and the republicans are doing that, even more so with gite ner pointing out the -- geithner pointing out the fact, warning us on the debt ceiling. this shows us we have out of control spending and raising taxes is not going to get us out of this mess. >> alice, you realize that most americans think you need a combination of tax hikes and spending cuts. it's not just one half of the deal. this is republicans and democrats, about 70% of americans, so it's not just a one-sided deal, and the second thing to say is, you know, these guys aren't that far apart. you know, in fact, when you look at how much revenue boehner has put on the table, he's close to a trillion dollars and he's just simply saying i want a trillion dollars in spending cuts as with he will. president obama, he's close to the same number. they're about, you know, $300 billion apart. they're about 1% apart in this whole deal, so i don't think it's fair to just attack the democrats somehow as wanting to go over the cliff. >> well, the problem is, they're not really putting any spending cuts on

timothy depite gite saying we'll raise taxes 1.6 trillion and washington will increase taxes on capitolains and we would like to say we like the power to raise the debt ceiling any time we want for the executive branch which is unconstitutional. >> steve: it is not 39 or 35 percent. all nonstarters in the world of negotiation. >> gretchen: two things to discuss. why is it tim geithner doing the discussions inted of the president of the united states. let me know if you have an answer for that. and the reason they are asking for this stuff. this is the way negotiations work when you win the presidency. you are walking around with your chest puffed up. this week, nothing will happen. until you cum come up right to the cliff. >> brian: this president is making a mockery of negotiations. he offered a initial trike with under 30 days until the cliff happens . sos the unserious attempt to get anything done. republicans ippedicated we will raise revenue. but the nuggets that are inside and his decision to go to pennsylvania and talk to a tinker toy and scrooge and coal in your pocket is an ins

anybody can write a script and giting the money is the skill in hollywood. >> gretchen: that questionviewers just saw came from your videotape, but when itunes put out that brew >> steve: pod cast. >> gretchen: it was eliminated. >> brian: i did the interview in apple and they set it out free on itunes and the only piece that i edited was what my question. and matt damon is making promised land and taking a stand. but he need toz face the difficult questions and apple shouldn't play wing man and protect the hollywood millionaires and celebrities from difficult questions . >> steve: it is it a hoit job on fracking. you saw gas land. he lights his water on fire. but as you well known, the water in that town would light up going back to the 1930s. decades before they started fracing. >> there are three town in america. you could light it for before gas. it is all over the place and that was a big myth and a big lie that fracking causes your water to go on fire. we are making our frack nation to exemployed the myth get them off of the table. >> gretchen: where can they see it >> it is on