he failed to close gitmo. president obama said he would close gitmo. we are not closing gitmo and he is not using gitmo. we don't have a place to put a prisoner. if we caught a high value target tomorrow where would we put them? we no longer allow the cia to interrogate them. let's investigate what happened to qaddafi but let's have a detention policy to protect americans. let's stop reading terrorists their miranda rights. this this president for the last year and a half has made some very poor national security decisions that i'm afraid will come back to haunt this country. i hope i'm wrong. >> chris: how do you answer the other question i asked secretary clinton about the distinction, putting troops or military intervention in africa, not troops on the grounds but air strikes and doing nothing in syria. she says we have to be smart and take it on a case-by-case basis. >> the world community is a bit divided about syria. i support putting people in africa. that is where this war is headed, africa. and this idea about sanctions working. if iran gets a

bush, who had the perspective, gitmo and military trials, he catches saddam hussein and let a jury of peers take care of it. >> bob: true irony. >> greg: you see people disappear. give him credit. i love when the networks say warning this picture is graphic. not a person on the planet that says, oh, dear, i better turn it off. why do we do that? >> dana: so you have a moment to get the children out of the room. >> greg: gaddafi looks exactly the same dead as he was alive. did you notice that? >> eric: the kids are out of the room, if they're not put them out of the room. we have video of the moments before gaddafi died. >> greg: it is graphic! >> bob: it is. it's very graphic. a bit disturbing. >> andrea: think how gratifying is it to the family of the victims of the pan am crash that he was behind. we know that. >> bob: a football game in san francisco. >> andrea: i will say this. bob brought up good points. we don't know the rebels. we don't know what they want. we don't know what kind of government will come to play. it was the same with egypt. everyone was jumping up and down cele

i tried to help him close gitmo. and we can't and we should use it. >> chris: senator graham, hot dose was strong coffee this morning . thank you for joining us. and it is always a pleasure to talk with you, sir. up next. the republican presidential race enters a new stage and michelle bachmann plans her new move. [ courr the amazing story of whether bovine heart tissue can make it from australia to a u.s. lab to a patient in time for surgery . mayhollywood premise.ed-up ♪ but if you take away the dramatic score... take away the dizzying 360-degree camera move... [ tires screech ...and take away the over-the-top stunt, you're still left with a pretty remarkable tale. but, okay, maybe keep the indulgent supermodel cameo... thank you. [ male announcer innovative medical solutions. fedex. solutions that matter. >> chris: with a long string of republican debates on a break, candidates are focusog campaigning in key early states. we continue our series of 2012 one on one interviews with michele bachmann who is making her

gitmo, oh, he just didn't understand the question.in his face. >> the strength of his candidacy is that he's spoken almost exclusively about the most important issue of this election, which is about jobs and the economy, right? that's what he's built his platform on. and i think he felt if he had the message right, the 9-9-9 catchy phrase right on that one issue, then in a way he could ignore the other issues. and what we've discovered in the last couple of weeks is that you have to have a full spectrum of policies if you want to be president of the united states. it's not enough to say i am strong on the economy and jobs, you also do have to be able to deal with immigration, the stands, and you know, foreign policy, and -- >> releasing every terrorist in gitmo -- you can't just say 9-9-9 and then be asked would you release every prison in gitmo? >> there's no depth apart from his tax policy, and even that kind of is a little bit confusing. but, you know, he built this case of saying even more than mitt romney, i am exclusively going

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gitmo's still open, last time i checked.e has given up on the idea of trying them in new york city. what we have seen, he is giving up the idea of winning in afghanistan. tomorrow, it's 10 years since we have been at war in afghanistan. the war in afghanistan is being won. he is going to deny us that victory if he persists in his pullout policy. >> you told me that you viewed yourself as an entertainer. you don't feel that way anymore. 9/11 changed you. the state of the economy changed you. remember the conversation we had. >> 9/11 changed me somewhat. but is attack watch -- do you think they are... barack obama is a bigger disaster to this country than 9/11. and you talk about changing. if you took the phrase fair share, millionaires and billionaires and passed this bill out of his vocabulary, he would be unable to deliver a speech. >> what do you mean he's more disastrous than 9/11? we lost 3,000 lives? >> because, look, the american people developed a fighting spirit after 9/11 and we responded. we went back after them. a

gitmo and dealing with terrorists.ig fail. >> greg: he said he would consider trading gitmo prisoners for one american soldier in the debate he was asked the question and he back pedaled. this looks like it's becoming a about. >> dana: he talked about electrifying the fence. >> bob: given that opening you wrote and read prior to the show today, you need to be at every one of these debates. that was one of the funnier opening i have heard on the show. congratulations. i don't think cain -- >> greg: you didn't see the tape. >> bob: don't say that. i gave you a credit thing, what happens? >> greg: i watched the debate. i was slightly ainebriateed -- einebriateed. watch the debate with three glasses of wine. it makes everything better. >> dana: if i had three glasses of wine, i wouldn't watch the debate. i want to make a complaint about the debate. i was pleased it was going to be, it was co-sponsored by the western business round table there were no questions that had to do with the western united states, except for one t

told me at the beginning of the obama presidency that his clearest legacy would involve not closing gitmo or green jobs or manufacturing jobs or any kind of jobs really, but would in fact be his ability to rain targeted death from the sky, i mean, are we even allowed to do that? >> yes... we... can. >> jon: oh. i was just asking. wow. i had no idea how versatile that slogan was. turning now to the republican presidential race. texas governor rick perry entered the contest with a great deal of fanfare and immediately shot to the top of the field. and then he began to speak. >> is it the mitt romney that was on the side of against the second amendment before he was for the second amendment? was it before he was before the social programs? >> jon: you know, watching governor perry do that, you really do picture sort of a squadron of tiny little men inside his head running around frantically trying to find the right paper, you know and then one of them knocks over the coffee on the control panel. you know, it's just like this. you know, people can recover from poor debate performance not like

his policies on iraq, afghanistan, gitmo, iran, even patriot act issues resemble much more the pragmatic george w. bush of 2007/2008 than the earlier lone ranger version." this doesn't bother me a bit, as an analyst/observer. what you're saying is as bush w. became more aware of reality as he got toward the end of his term, as he fell less under the influence of cheney, he began to become much better as a president and a leader. obama's more like him. >> yeah. look, obama really has gone aggressively after al qaeda. no one can argue with that. if anything, you could say that this is overly aggressive. we're going after people with missile strikes. but i think what ron paul and i think some others have gotten wrong here is the idea that just because he's an american citizen, we shouldn't be firing missiles at him. this is someone who declared war against the united states of america, who openly broadcast -- >> wait a minute, ron paul, talk about being out to lunch.u meani army and you're fighting in the army against us with the ss and you get killed in action, that's somehow wrong? you ne

talking about gitmo with wolf blitzer.radicted himself handling a hypothetical decision, the decision netanyahu had to make about getting his captive back at the choice of releasing a lot of killers. let's listen. >> can you imagine if you were president, we're almost out of time, and there was one american soldier held for years and the demand was al qaeda or some other terrorist group, you have toguantanamo. could you see yourself as president authorizing that kind of transfer. >> i could see myself authorizing that transfer. i said, i believe in the philosophy of we don't negotiate with terrorists. i didn't say -- i never agreed to letting hostages in guantanamo bay go. >> there we have a situation which is hard as rock, mark. two opposite positions on the same question. trading terrorists to get free an american service person. mark? >> i think this one could -- this one could hurt him. he must, if he's going to be a credible candidate -- republicans are getting to the period we call time to pick a president. if he on

take gitmo. they campaigned against gitmo. elected they brought in platoons of lawyers into the justice department that spent their time fighting gitmo before the election and who consider it an internment camp. look at the cia issue. the reexamination and prosecuting law enforcement agents at the cia. this is residual hatred of the agency that goes back decades. it's about vengeance. it's about getting back at an agency they like. look at the underwear bomber. read miranda rights soon after he was arrested. this comes from ideological background too. they won't call islamic terror what it is and that's islamic terror they view it as a simple criminal act. over and over again things that look like incompetence can be explained through ideological reasons. >> those things you outlined from gitmo to underwear bomber. interest is someone dead fast and furious. atf agent who was killed. at some point does eric holder need to go? >> well, listen, either there is enormous incompetence underlings not ininforming him which is simply n

on capitol hill some lawmakers want investigators to question suspects held at gitmo to find out whatow about the late american-born cleric. our khaoeuf intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with more on that. the 9/11 suspects and questioning them, who wants that. >> reporter: good morning, jon and thank you. a fox news was first to obtain this letter sent by the chairman of the homeland security committee peter king to the head osaying the gitmo detainees should be questioned. these are pictures of a man who helped the hijackers. and another close associate of the american cleric who is the first on the american capture list. the syrian is still living in the u.s. >> are you religious? >> no. >> why would you go to hamas? >> how did you come to meet him. >> i'm very upset about that, really. so everybody have to do something for them. >> reporter: that syrian national is actually waiting to hear whether he will be deported from the united states. immigration officials moved to pull his status for reasons of national security that remain under seal, jon.

it turned out rendition, gitmo continue and bush tax cuts continue which most normal people support. but the reaction of the tea party on the left, you see functioning americans who clean up after themselves. when you go to occupied rally, you find filthy people that can't find work. america is becoming like an hour glass with the top and the bottom and the middle is getting squeezed, not because the rich succeed but because of fannie mae and freddie mac and government. i would say to my friend, ron, one of the main reasons we're in trouble, is because of government and fannie mae and freddie mac. so government calls this and now you want to give more power to government? are you kidding me? >> it's interesting. deregulation of wall street that created the mess. you have consumer protection and you have bank of america trying to charge people $5 from their own account. same people who created the mess now have people like gingrich saying dodd-franks want to get rit rid of it. come on, ron. >> raped? >> as the crime, a corporate crime. i do not want to take it back. >> i want to ask y

herman cain, still up in the polls, but down, debating himself on abortion and whether he would trade gitmosoners and for american hostages. and enough fruit already. >> governor perry was right. >> no, he wasn't. he was mixing apples and orange. >> bachmann down. her new hampshire staff quit and didn't tell her. debates, up. more than 20 million viewers have watched this fall. this week in politics, i'm jonathan karl. >>> let's bring in our roundtable. george will, matthew dowd, donna brazile and jake tapper. so, a string of foreign policy successes, the latest in libya, is that going to give the president the kind of bump that he needs? >> it won't give him a bump, it will prevent him from sagging. since it fractured in 1960s. this immunized on this issue where it seeses to have sal ensy giving unemployment. >> donna? >> he's made the world a less dangerous place, he's leading on foreign policy the american people may not who gives him credit for all of the things that he's done, but clearly, they're looking for leadership on the economy, but on foreign policy and national security there'

gitmo and cutting taxes but those were great flip-flops, so you -- i sound like i'm selling candles.can't condemn flip-flops if it's a change in policy you agree with. those were important things he did. just going after them because they change their mind is stupid. >> dana: leadership. >> eric: leaving aside proposal for the millionaire >>> name a tax that obama raised. >> greg: that's what i said. extended the bush -- i was complimenting him. >> eric: trying to raise it. >> bob: he cut taxes. >> eric: where? hold on. where? >> bob: there were millions of dollars in tax cut in stimulus package. >> eric: he used our money from the states to pay for the budget -- >> bob: listen. there were $300 billion of tax cuts. >> dana: bob is right on that. but one point is president obama ran on eliminating the tax cuts. then in december of 2010 he passed the bill. >> eric: if you tell bob he is right about this. the extended tax credits, which all that did was add $350 billion to the deficit. then he will come around and now say we have to pay for that. >> bob: $787 billion stimulus package. o

the best thing he has done were broken promises like gitmo. >> eric: right. >> greg: taxes. >> kimberlyave a quote from bill daily from political article on circumventing congress. he said you can't get it done because they're not cooperates so the democrats and the republicans made it difficult for the president to be anything like a chief executive. this led to a frustration. figure out what we can do without congress. >> bob: the more you do it, the better off we'll be. nothing will get through congress. republicans will stall anything. screw them. >> dana: maybe the white house shouldn't send up legislation even the senate democrats can't support. >> bob: what a shot! >> kimberly: that zinger. >> bob: there is a new sheriff in town. >> kimberly: all right. coming up, good economic news. oh, yeah! finally. but does it mean we're really pulling out of the recession? or is this our new normal? who knows? don't forget to e-mail us. thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪ 4g-- the next evolution in wireless technology. with advanced power, the verizon 4g lte network makes your business run faster: smar

donations for wikileaks after releasing hundreds of documents from the war in afghanistan to detainees at gitmofederal government shut down almost every payment source phone to man from papal all the way up and down is he is out of money. fox news is america's election headquarters. and republican presidential hopeful romney making it official in new hampshire, the former massachusetts governor is the latest candidate to submit the paperwork in the state that holds the first primary traditionally and leads in the polls there and god a key endorsement but several other candidates also focusing on the state with the primary now just 11 weeks away. and now carl is live in washington this afternoon. no votes in december? >>carl: not from new hampshire or for president this year or next year for that matter. we should be done. yes, the primary calendar has been established we and iowa goes first, january 3, new hampshire in january 10, and the talk of the possibility of voting next couple of weeks will not happen but the first caucus is ten weeks from tomorrow and the new hampshire primary, in 11 we

the best thing he has done were broken promises like gitmo. >> eric: right. >> greg: taxes. >> kimberlyave a quote from bill daily from political article on circumventing congress. he said you can't get it done because they're not cooperates so the democrats and the republicans made it difficult for the president to be anything like a chief executive. this led to a frustration. figure out what we can do without congress. >> bob: the more you do it, the better off we'll be. nothing will get through congress. republicans will stall anything. screw them. >> dana: maybe the white house shouldn't send up legislation even the senate democrats can't support. >> bob: what a shot! >> kimberly: that zinger. >> bob: there is a new sheriff in town. >> kimberly: all right. coming up, good economic news. oh, yeah! finally. but does it mean we're really pulling out of the recession? or is this our new normal? who knows? don't forget to e-mail us. thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at transerica, we are the tomorrow makers. we're making tomorrows like clockwork. ♪ for all the different things

. >> he did a quick redirect and referred to gitmo and in the heat of getting ready for the debate, i see that gitmo is where we hold terrorists, so i misstated, so i spoke relative to that but i went back and corrected and said as president, we will not negotiate with terrorists. martha: problematic, right? >> yeah, confusing. better to say not to get into the detail, but simply say let me tell you what my view is, this is my view. you're right, everybody gets a mulligan, everybody gets a couple of mulligans but you look at herman cain's record and while he shows passion, energy, he's grabbed attention with the 999 tax plan, all of the cumulative effect is to create a sense that he's not up to it. now look, he's not the only one, though, i saw governor perry of texas this morning, who you know, had an okay debate performance last week after extraordinarily bad ones, has started to talk about a flat tax, this looks like a way to bend his campaign in a positive trajectory, and today, he comes out and is quoted as sort of adding a little bit of fuel to the fire that barack obama was not

that's why i'm comfortable saying i misspoke about the gitmo situation because -- >> ron paul made quite a big point, didn't he? in a way, there's a lot of negotiating that goes on. would you be happy if you ran for president in afghanistan, for military leaders to continue to negotiate and paying taliban leaders if they felt that it was for the greater good of not necessarily winning the war in afghanistan, but winning the battle against terrorism? >> if the commanders on the ground told me that that was a tactic, that they saw with an official, i would approve of it. >> all because of the taliban are terrorists? >> yes, the taliban are terrorists. >> if you negotiate with them in any capacity, aren't you negotiating terror? >> well, some of the people doing these things, there are sisms that they are converting to basically be on our side. it's not always negotiating with a terrorist. it's negotiating with someone who may be sympathetic to the taliban and then they come over on our side and are soup tif of what we're doing. it's not a clear black and white situation unless you know mor

with the great drone strikes and leaving gitmo open and killing all the horrible people, if there iskind of accolades in the media as he did? >> andrea: probably not. he has never -- the fact he got a nobel peace prize before he did anything was strange. don't you think? >> bob: we tried to open the segment saying is anyone willing to give him -- greg is. >> andrea: i did yesterday. >> bob: thank you very much. >> kimberly: i don't think he should give it back. i don't think he should have got it to begin with. >> bob: eric is the only one at the table. >> eric: what did he get it for? >> bob: what for? >> eric: the peace prize. speech in cairo? that was it? >> bob: he was -- >> eric: obama gave a speech in cairo and spends two-and-a-half years blowing away radical muslims. >> bob: do you get in a corner and start saying, "obama, bamm, obama." give at it break! it's stupid. >> greg: what you said is genius. only a progressive who won a nobel peace prize could do what he is doing and get away with it. right? >> bob: obama had another victory. a judge ruled that members of congress who

the best thing he has done were broken promises like gitmo. >> eric: right. >> greg: taxes. >> kimberlyave a quote from bill daily from political article on circumventing congress. he said you can't get it done because they're not cooperates so the democrats and the republicans made it difficult for the president to be anything like a chief executive. this led to a frustration. figure out what we can do without congress. >> bob: the more you do it, the better off we'll be. nothing will get through congress. republicans will stall anything. screw them. >> dana: maybe the white house shouldn't send up legislation even the senate democrats can't support. >> bob: what a shot! >> kimberly: that zinger. >> bob: there is a new sheriff in town. >> kimberly: all right. coming up, good economic news. oh, yeah! finally. but does it mean we're really pulling out of the recession? or is this our new normal? who knows? don't forget to e-mail us. thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] ntgomery and abigail haggins had a tree that borthe most rare and magical fruit, which provided for their every f

gitmo remains open and the number of terror plots have been foiled. both the cia and the fbi are doing excellent job. high marks for the president here. on the economic side, things remain dismal. just the facts, jack. since the president has been in office, the national debt has increased $4.2 trillion. country now spending $4.2 billion every day more than it takes in. if that doesn't take your breath away, nothing will. so far 2.2 million jobs have been lost on mr. obama's watch. even though he added 140,000 jobs to the government payroll. nearly 3 million more americans live in poverty than they did before the president took office. 4 million bankruptcies, 2.4 million homes foreclosed. gas prices have risen more than 80%. health insurance premiums up 13%. are we all getting the picture here? the situation is urgent. president obama's strategy is two-fold. first, try to stimulate the economy by spending even more on infrastructure jobs. republicans will not okay the spending. second, the president will try to convince you, the folks, the situation w

growing trouble for the attorney general eric holder from the controversy over gitmo to his push to prosecute 9/11 suspects in federal court to the gun sting that ar armed mexican cartels. >> we want answers and we want those responsible to be held accountable. >> shepard: and some republicans now calling on the attorney general to resign. >> i don't know that the president is getting the best advice. >> shepard: tonight, controversy in the capital. plus, bloodbath at the beauty salon. witnesses say the gunman just burst through the door and started blowing people away. >> he looked as though he was either drunk or on drugs. >> tonight, word from the witnesses and new clues to the motive. but first from fox this thursday night, the president. president obama calling iran's behavior dangerous and reckless and the president responds to reports that iranians were planning a terrorist operation right here on american soil. the first presidential words since the plot broke investigators charged with charging to assassinate. targets included the saudi embassy in d.c. and buenos aires. the main susp

with the great drone strikes and leaving gitmo open and killing all the horrible people, if there is same kind of accolades in the media as he did? >> andrea: probably not. he has never -- the fact he got a nobel peace prize before he did anything was strange. don't you think? >> bob: we tried to open the segment saying is anyone willing to give him -- greg is. >> andrea: i did yesterday. >> bob: thank you very much. >> kimberly: i don't think he should give it back. i don't think he should have got it to begin with. >> bob: eric is the only one at the table. >> eric: what did he get it for? >> bob: what for? >> eric: the peace prize. speech in cairo? that was it? >> bob: he was -- >> eric: obama gave a speech in cairo and spends two-and-a-half years blowing away radical muslims. >> bob: do you get in a corner and start saying, "obama, bamm, obama." give at it break! it's stupid. >> greg: what you said is genius. only a progressive who won a nobel peace prize could do what he is doing and get away with it. right? >> bob: obama had another victory. a judge ruled that members of congre

with the great drone strikes and leaving gitmo open and killing all the horrible people, if there is the same kind of accolades in the media as he did? >> andrea: probably not. he has never -- the fact he got a nobel peace prize before he did anything was strange. don't you think? >> bob: we tried to open the segment saying is anyone willing to give him -- greg is. >> andrea: i did yesterday. >> bob: thank you very much. >> kimberly: i don't think he should give it back. i don't think he should have got it to begin with. >> bob: eric is the only one at the table. >> eric: what did he get it for? >> bob: what for? >> eric: the peace prize. speech in cairo? that was it? >> bob: he was -- >> eric: obama gave a speech in cairo and spends two-and-a-half years blowing away radical muslims. >> bob: do you get in a corner and start saying, "obama, bamm, obama." give at it break! it's stupid. >> greg: what you said is genius. only a progressive who won a nobel peace prize could do what he is doing and get away with it. right? >> bob: obama had another victory. a judge ruled that members of co