put giudice up on the screen. put him up. >> i'm here. >> number one, i never believed patty hearst. that was complete b.s. >> she -- >> number two. no, you had your turn. number two, she was held by the symbionese liberation army -- >> that's right. >> -- for many, many weeks. this woman was held according to her for 24 hours. you're saying all this b.s., ray -- >> my point is don't jump to the automatic conclusion because you haven't heard all the facts, as usual. >> ray? >> yes, nancy. >> are you suggesting this is a real kidnap? >> i'm suggesting she may have some defenses that may -- >> i'm asking you, are you saying this is a real kidnap? >> i don't know the answer. as a defense lawyer i'm going to defend -- you asked me to defend her. i'm going to defend her. >> maybe you should listen to sue moss' rendition sue -- of the facts. >> well, i'd like to see sue do a defense. >> it has been absolutely unequivocally proven there was no kidnap. she was with her younger boyfriend the whole time. we have tapes of th

put giudice up on the screen. put him up. >> i'm here. >> number one, i never believed patty hearst. that was complete b.s. >> she -- >> number two. no, you had your turn. number two, she was held by the sim beon lebanese army -- >> that's right. >> -- for many, many weeks. this woman was held according to her for 24 hours. you're saying all this b.s., ray -- >> my point is don't jump to the automatic conclusion because you haven't heard all the facts, as usual. >> ray? >> yes, nancy. >> are you suggesting this is a real kidnap? >> i'm suggesting she may have some defenses that may -- >> i'm asking you, are you saying this is a real kidnap? >> i don't know the answer. as a defense lawyer i'm going to defend -- you asked me to defend her. i'm going to defend her. >> maybe you should listen to sue moss' rendition of the facts. sue, it has been absolutely -- >> well, i'd like to see sue do a defense. >> it has been absolutely unequivocally proven there was no kidnap. she was with her younger boyfriend the whole time.

ray giudice, christopher amolsch. you know, how can they say this baby slept till 11:30 in the morning? raymond giudice, you've got a b the night. >> if i was their counsel, and i would only represent one of them at a time. i straight. it does not make sense. >> there's not a chance in the world this story is correct. not chance in the world. the police are going to separate them. they're going get one to point the finger at one of them. >> marc klaas could not be more right. zblrvelgts november, the number one cancer killer in the world. lung caser awareness month. you don't have to smoke to get lung cancer. saturday, november 7, 8:00 a.m. the lung cancer alliance run and walk in georgia. ffr this and other happenings around the u.s., go to lungcanceralliance,.com. and the joan gaeta lung cancer foundation. together, we can win the fight against lung cancer. >>> investigators have a broad time line they're working with here. it's, according to reports, the parents went to sleep around 3:00 a.m. and didn't wake up unt

put giudice up on the screen. put him up. >> i'm here. >> number one, i never believed patty hearst. that was complete b.s. >> she -- >> number two. no, you had your turn. number two, she was held by the symbion lebanese army -- >> that's right. >> -- for many, many weeks. this woman was held according to her for 24 hours. you're saying all this b.s., ray -- >> my point is don't jump to the automatic conclusion because you haven't heard all the facts, as usual. >> ray? >> yes, nancy. >> are you suggesting this is a real kidnap? >> i'm suggesting she may have some defenses that may -- >> i'm asking you, are you saying this is a real kidnap? >> i don't know the answer. as a defense lawyer i'm going to defend -- you asked me to defend her. i'm going to defend her. >> maybe you should listen to sue moss's rendition of the facts. sue -- >> well, i'd like to see sue do a defense. >> it has been absolutely unequivocally proven there was no kidnap. she was with her younger boyfriend the whole time. we have tapes of them h

raymond giudice, felony defense attorney, atlanta. and alex sanchez, renowned in his jurisdiction, defense attorney in new york. alex sanchez, first to you. i was just taking a little time check. she hadn't even been on the line one minute before she says for the first of three times, she knows how to get out of the door. she knows how to unlock the lock. and within 26 seconds the hysteria has disappeared. she's calm, cool, and collected. why? why, alex sanchez? >> i do not know why. but what i do know is that the police have released very few details about what happened. so i'm not even exactly clear what facts led to her arrest at this point. so whether or not that phone call has any validity or not at this point, you know, i'm not in a position to say. >> okay. at least you said that with a straight face. giudice, are you going to sing that same verse, same as the first, or you've got something new for me? >> this phone call gives her defense team a big problem. she can't come up with the defense was hey, my friend said he was goin

raymond giudice, felony defense attorney, atlanta. and alex sanchez, renowned in his jurisdiction, defense attorney in new york. alex sanchez, first to you. i was just taking a little time check. she hadn't even been on the line one minute before she says for the first of three times, she knows how to get out of the door. she knows how to unlock the lock. and within 26 seconds the hysteria has disappeared. she's calm, cool, and collected. why? why, alex sanchez? >> i do not know why. but what i do know is that the police have released very few details about what happened. so i'm not even exactly clear what facts led to her arrest at this point. so whether or not that phone call has any validity or not at this point, you know, i'm not in a position to say. >> okay. at least you said that with a straight face. giudice, are you going to sing that same verse, same as the first, or you've got something new for me? >> this phone call gives her defense team a big problem. she can't come up with the defense was hey, my friend said he was goin

ray giudice, christopher amolsch.ou know, how can they say this baby slept till 11:30 in the morning? raymond giudice, you've got a brand new blended family. you've been up during the night with your daughters. >> nancy, if i was their counsel for this and other happenings around the u.s., go to lungcanceralliance.com. and the joan gaeta lung cancer foundation. together, we can win the fight against lung cancer. >>> who are the most toxic bachelors in hollywood. at the top of the hour. >> out to the lines, marcia, west virginia. >> caller: thank you, nancy. i love you show. >> what is your question? >> caller: have they talked to the baby's doctor, when was the last time she was seen, was she in good health? >> when was the last time anybody other than the parents saw little shannon? >> there are reports that neighbors saw shannon around 9:00 in the morning. that has not been confirmed. as far as medical records, we don't know that. the sheriff's office has not confirmed anything. >> the 9:00 sighting doesn't make sen

put giudice up on the screen. put him up. >> i'm here. >> number one, i never believed patty hearst. that was complete b.s. >> she -- >> number two. no, you had your turn. number two, she was held by the symbion lebanese army -- >> that's right. >> -- for many, many weeks. this woman was held according to her for 24 hours. you're saying all this b.s., ray -- >> my point is don't jump to the automatic conclusion because you haven't heard all the facts, as usual. >> ray? >> yes, nancy. >> are you suggesting this is a real kidnap? >> i'm suggesting she may have some defenses that may -- >> i'm asking you, are you saying this is a real kidnap? >> i don't know the answer. as a defense lawyer i'm going to defend -- you asked me to defend her. i'm going to defend her. >> maybe you should listen to sue moss' rendition sue -- of the facts. >> well, i'd like to see sue do a defense. >> it has been absolutely unequivocally proven there was no kidnap. she was with her younger boyfriend the whole time. we have tapes of them ha